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RE: Just joined and - 5/17/2005 12:22:00 PM   
McWhips


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Status: offline 		How dare I even think about taking money from someone!!! I am not a prostitute Im genuine!!!

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RE: Just joined and - 5/17/2005 12:55:02 PM   
perverseangelic


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quote:

ORIGINAL: McWhips

How dare I even think about taking money from someone!!! I am not a prostitute Im genuine!!!


I think you kinda missed the point.

And seriously, what's the problem with prostitutes anyway?

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RE: Just joined and - 5/17/2005 4:45:07 PM   
McWhips


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Status: offline 		I dunno, maybe its the way they turn this site into the equivalent of a seedy back of the papers 'adult services' section with their contradictory 'Im looking for someone special ....YET hey have to pay me' lol. Fuk off to a site designed for that I say and leave it to the genuine people who arent up for the money crap. Believe it or not I think that most sub males are looking for a Dominant GF not some pay as you go slot machine some of which try n tell them that its selfish and bottoming from the top when you claim how genuine u are and have a problem with gold diggers, my arse.

There are so many Fake$ here! Go back to Mcdonalds and stop fuking the scene.

Oh yes Pro Domme believe it or not are actually prostitutes because they are selling a sexual service for money, you cant rule the world by claiming that cocking someones vag is the only definition of sex cos it isnt. Whipping is sexual to many. Pro Dommes may of course beg to differ and claim its an experience other than that such as reading a book or something lame, then start comparing themselves to 'pshycologists' or 'councillers' lol What a load of Bull.

Just my opinion dont be offended just carry on riding on your own sense of delusion thinking your great and doing the world a fuking huge favour.


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RE: Just joined and - 5/17/2005 7:00:58 PM   
perverseangelic


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From: Davis, Ca
Status: offline 		I'm not offended by your opinion. Like I said, think what you like.

I -am- offended by your assertation that those who think differently than you about this are deluded.

I think I said it before, but I might as well say it again. I don't get financial domination as a kink. It's weird to me. I understand professional domination and have no problem with it.

Think what you like. Do what you like. But quit with the being horrible to people who think differently. Neither you nor anyone else is being hurt--aside from in ways they want to be.

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RE: Just joined and - 5/27/2005 8:40:18 PM   
masterforyorlove


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Joined: 5/24/2005
Status: offline 		As I see it, if you open your wallet to be pleasured, that is prostitution. If you are pleasured by forcing yourself on another person, that is rape. If you are pleasured for any other reason, that is Consensual.

If you are looking for a sub who is into kink and then all you have her do is get you off and say goodnight, then that is not what it is all about. D/s is about control, just like B/D and S/M is about control. I've always used sex for training purposes and as a reward to my sub for following orders. She came to expect her reward. That is how I have always seen it.

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RE: Just joined and - 5/27/2005 11:32:34 PM   
ginger21


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Joined: 4/28/2005
From: Austin, Texas
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quote:

ORIGINAL: McWhips

Fuk it! I want tributes from Dommes for me to serve them! that fair isnt it? its the same treatment isnt it ?


No that's not fair...who in the hell would pay you to serve them?

It's called "tribute" for a reason. She doesn't owe you jack-shit.


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RE: Just joined and - 5/28/2005 2:32:17 AM   
ElektraUkM


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Joined: 2/19/2005
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quote:

ORIGINAL: McWhips

I think the BEST a male sub could get from this site thats the farthest away from paying someone is doing some plumbing in xchange for a session. This is still pointless as it just gives me the impression that my submission is worthless, infact pretty much all the Dommes here give me the impression my submission is worthless seeing as they all want material compensation for it. Its almost like no-one enjoys it at all!


Coming to the thread late, but yes... This is an impression i've gained from reading these boards. BUT... the number of female doms posting regularly here is small, and almost always they seem to be reacting to something that's made them annoyed... so I'm not sure what sort of version of reality is being portrayed on collarme.

I would have thought there were lots of women who enjoy calling the shots during sex and generally in a relationship. From the Vanilla world we certainly hear a lot of men talking as if there are! Perhaps a site like collarme is just BOUND to attract the 'wrong' type of women... those who are out for what they can get, and not out for an actual Relationship.

Basically, what I'm saying is... perhaps collarme isn't a great place for submissive men to look for a relationship. I think you'd have much more success out interacting with people generally in life ~ NOT even in munches, because your'e going to get the same sort of people, already IN the scene, and already with those attitudes that seem to be spoiling things for you..?

Anyway, just musing, and not wanting to wind anyone up.

~ Elektra

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RE: Just joined and - 5/28/2005 2:37:05 AM   
ElektraUkM


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quote:

ORIGINAL: kc692...

I must say also, as a new member, your profile says submissive, yet your "walk and talk" bespeaks belligerence not generally tolerated in a sub.


Hello kc692, just using your comment because it illustrates my point, and apologies if this isnt' what you meant or what you believe.

But my point is: Surely subs are free to submit only to that person/people they've Agreed to submit to? No sub has to prove their submissive qualities by trying to please anyone and everyone.

~ Elektra

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RE: Just joined and - 5/28/2005 2:42:22 AM   
ElektraUkM


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ginger21


No that's not fair...who in the hell would pay you to serve them?

It's called "tribute" for a reason. She doesn't owe you jack-shit.



Male doms will (offer to) give a fem sub a good life, with presents and lovely things... if they will serve them. How many fem subs have to give 'tribute' of money..?

This is far more gender-oriented than a simple dom-sub question.

~ Elektra

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RE: Just joined and - 5/28/2005 6:03:08 AM   
kc692


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ElektraUkM


quote:

ORIGINAL: kc692...

I must say also, as a new member, your profile says submissive, yet your "walk and talk" bespeaks belligerence not generally tolerated in a sub.


Hello kc692, just using your comment because it illustrates my point, and apologies if this isnt' what you meant or what you believe.

But my point is: Surely subs are free to submit only to that person/people they've Agreed to submit to? No sub has to prove their submissive qualities by trying to please anyone and everyone.

~ Elektra


I don't think my meaning was quite clear, Elektra, or didn't state it correctly. At the very least, let me expand(no offense taken, that is what discussion of views are for). I do not expect that someone who is submissive, automatically submit to me or anyone else that is or claims to be domme. I would not expect that from anyone, except for one I was involved with. What I meant, was overall, the OP started a post with open beliigerence to dommes at large, and throughout the post, has stated that some of his worries concerned specific tasks that he was willing or not to do, to be determined by him. This was not only money, but service issues, etc. It just seemed to me, IMO, that, although, I totally agree with what you stated (any more than I think I dominants should be expected to be dominant towards everyone, any more than a sub be submissive towards everyone) the OP has seemed like he wanted to be in control of the direction of the relationship he was in:



quote:

I am into equality and like to serve a Domme so long as its not a rip-off



quote:

However I dont find that doing someone plumbing in Exchange for some whipping is really a BDSM relationship...sorry


There are better quotes from him to illustrate my point throughout this thread, but it is early, and I do not have enough caffeine in my brain yet.

Again, he is welcome to his views, and do whatever he wants. My statement would be more accurate to restate as : you state you are a submissive, but I think you will have a hard time finding a domme that will conform herself to your desires, as a submissive, when you found a domme, you would be expected to submit to her desires, not the other way around. I think you will have a hard time with this attitude of checklists of acceptable and unacceptable behavior (besides the money issue). I think that a lot of Dommes would not interpet this as having a submissive nature. I am not addressing the money, I am addressing everything else the OP stated. I did not mean my statement to be inflammatory, I am just being honest in my opinion. He is free to have whatever attitude he would like, he is not my submissive. I also want to state, Elektra, I do not want my boys or girls to have no mind, and never state an opinion or have no independent thoughts. However, I will not have them dictate to me, or decide, (other than hard limits) what and when service, play, rewards, discipline, etc. are going to happen, and what they are going to consist of. Someone that does that, especially in the beginning, like this, just does not bespeak a submissive attitude in general. However, I wish him luck in his quest.

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RE: Just joined and - 5/28/2005 6:36:06 AM   
LadyAngelika


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Joined: 7/4/2004
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quote:

can you believe I turned down Blahniks?


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh angel! That is the most tragic thing I've read on these boards in ages!

- LA

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RE: Just joined and - 5/28/2005 9:57:32 PM   
batty24546


Posts: 43
Joined: 5/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

What I dont understand is this is quite clearly a prostitution arrangment so whats the point? lol.


It is only a prostitution if that is how you want to take it. For many it is nothing more then a pick up line, for others its a way of letting other know what they are looking for in order to weed out people looking something the don't wish to be bothered with.

I also read your profile and you don't strike me as a person who even wants to be here. If you need to be brain dead before you'll have any interest in here, then why are you posting and degreding what others are doing? that i don't understand, why would you care what others are doing. It is a good question to be asking, as it makes for interesting convorsation.

Personly i am looking for conversation nothing more. I want people to know that, because I don't want to be constantly deleting messages from people wanting more. I have my reasons for being here, and i do what intrest in the things that are going on, that is why i am here. Why are you here, if you don't want to be?

Please don't take this to personally, but I just don't understand
batty

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RE: Just joined and - 5/29/2005 8:35:10 AM   
BeachMystress


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Joined: 4/3/2004
From: Naples Island- Long Beach CA - Southern California
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster
What bothers me is that virtually every day now, a new user is turned off by all the money dommes on this site. I think that's a clear sign that something has to be changed--whether it be adding a "pro" filter or whatever.



While I am not turned off by Pros or those who require tribute, I do like the idea of them being identified as such for easy search filtering (do you require any type of monetary or other compensation in return for your Domination? check the box yes or no.) the same as I like the idea of being able to search on relationship status (Are you single, LTR, married, seperated, polygamous.) It is nothing more than finding who you seek. Some people are fine with the idea of a Pro. Others aren't looking for that type of relationship. Will people lie about their status so they don't frighten people off at first? Yes.. and we all know that anyone who deals with someone who lies in BDSM is a fool. I don't waste my time feeling sorry for fools.

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RE: Just joined and - 5/29/2005 8:47:27 AM   
BeachMystress


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Joined: 4/3/2004
From: Naples Island- Long Beach CA - Southern California
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quote:

ORIGINAL: McWhips

However I dont find that doing someone plumbing in Exchange for some whipping is really a BDSM relationship...sorry!


ROFLMAO.. Oh damn, I'm just being amused to hell and back on the boards today. Even with my pointing out to the OP early in the thread that BDSM doesn't need to have a thing to do with sex, he still comes up with a statement like this. He wants to be dominated, but by all he holds holy, it will be the way HE wants (aka sexual.) How does he think this is domination? Does he expect to write out a script and present it to the woman? Or maybe just an outline? LMAO. oh damn, waaay too funny!

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RE: Just joined and - 5/29/2005 9:16:09 AM   
kc692


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Joined: 3/24/2005
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BeachMystress

quote:

ORIGINAL: McWhips

However I dont find that doing someone plumbing in Exchange for some whipping is really a BDSM relationship...sorry!


ROFLMAO.. Oh damn, I'm just being amused to hell and back on the boards today. Even with my pointing out to the OP early in the thread that BDSM doesn't need to have a thing to do with sex, he still comes up with a statement like this. He wants to be dominated, but by all he holds holy, it will be the way HE wants (aka sexual.) How does he think this is domination? Does he expect to write out a script and present it to the woman? Or maybe just an outline? LMAO. oh damn, waaay too funny!


Some of the other ladies such as you, Beach, seem to word things much more succinctly than I do, but, it amazes me the ones that just don't get that...it's not a hard concept to me, but go figure....

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RE: Just joined and - 5/29/2005 12:30:37 PM   
Lordandmaster


Posts: 10943
Joined: 6/22/2004
Status: offline 		Yay! An ally!

quote:

ORIGINAL: BeachMystress

While I am not turned off by Pros or those who require tribute, I do like the idea of them being identified as such for easy search filtering (do you require any type of monetary or other compensation in return for your Domination? check the box yes or no.) the same as I like the idea of being able to search on relationship status (Are you single, LTR, married, seperated, polygamous.) It is nothing more than finding who you seek. Some people are fine with the idea of a Pro. Others aren't looking for that type of relationship. Will people lie about their status so they don't frighten people off at first? Yes.. and we all know that anyone who deals with someone who lies in BDSM is a fool. I don't waste my time feeling sorry for fools.


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RE: Just joined and - 5/29/2005 9:55:59 PM   
PenelopePitstop


Posts: 254
Joined: 4/22/2005
From: UK
Status: offline 		McWhips, if this site is so bad - why are you still here?

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RE: Just joined and - 5/31/2005 12:26:30 PM   
poncha17


Posts: 2
Joined: 5/31/2005
Status: offline 		im a 23 f lookin for submissive but i dont want to hurt anybody for pleasure im lookin for a female maybe a longterm relationship who will do as i say have a list of chores things like that do u think it will be hard for me to find someone

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