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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 2:13:44 PM   
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But a 20 yr age difference, come on now that is like your father there.


Exactly. That's what some of us like about it.

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So now you are 50, do you really want to be a widower at age 50?


I could marry someone my age and be a widower at 30. Stuff happens. Youth doesn't protect you from death.

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Odds are again you will not have kids within the first 2 or 3 years that you are together, atleats intentionally.

Again, the kids thing isn't an issue for me. I can't have any. But even if I did...my grandfather and his 2nd wife are in their early 60s and just adopted THREE beautiful kids. The youngest is only 2 and let me tell you, he is having a GREAT time playing football and chasing after them!

Ditto to Aquatic about older men being attractive also. I have never seen anything sexy about a 25yr old. They look like little college boys! Now a man in his late 30's can make me drool....





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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 2:17:02 PM   
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I find older Doms in general to have much more maturity, D/s becomes more about the dynamic and less about kinky sex, I am not saying ALL young Doms who are like that, indeed my ex weas 23 and was not but the majority seem to be.

Personally I don't really care about age, I go for dynamic and Master is 31 but thats just the way things worked out

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 2:19:14 PM   
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I've always been attracted to older men. They have more life experience and can guide me through more easily than a younger man, who has not had enough time to gain such experience, and we are on more level maturity ground. It is my opinion that besides maturing nicely, men become more physically attractive as they age. Now that I'm in the "older" category myself, I find that I am attracted to men my own age and older - how much older depends on the man.

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 2:19:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl


Ditto to Aquatic about older men being attractive also. I have never seen anything sexy about a 25yr old. They look like little college boys! Now a man in his late 30's can make me drool....






I have, but it's a different kind of sexy. For whatever reason, I seem to get along better with males my own age who behave like, and are, men. Because we get along better, I take them over the body type I find possibly the most attractive, which is about 35 with some facial scruff and a body that's hard from work, not defined in the gym.

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 2:31:52 PM   
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mercmjm,
 
I am here to tell you this . Your thinking is all wrong . I am very much older then my slave and we make it work . Thats is why we all differ in this life style .
 
 There are also those who like the Daddy Dom aspect of this lifestyle . What is not yours does not mean it is wrong and there is something wrong with it . I know you have asked a question here and thats good . Thats what this forum is for .  I hope you get the answers you are looking for .
 
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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 2:45:49 PM   
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well first, I should clarify.  It is not a bad thing if you look for both your age and older, but girls who only look for older.  Let's be honest, someone who is 15 or 20 years older than you, there really cannot be a relationship.  A long term one atleast.  I mean you could play with them or be trained but any form of complete lifetime ownership cannot really be done if you really analyze it. 


Sorry, this doesn't fly. My late father in law was 20 years older than his second wife. They lived together for over 25 years. Until his death in fact and if this doesn't qualify as a lifetime relationship then I don't know what does.

The truth is that you whining about girls your age not being interested in you does not make you come across as mature, quite the opposite. Apparently they are defining mature in a very different manner than you do.

I leave you with one thought to ponder, In all your relationships there has been only one constant, you. So if you keep getting shot down it is not because of a problem with all these different women, it is because of something you do wrong. And if at 22 you have worked in so very many different corporations and have kept getting asked to leave, the problem is not with all the different managers you have had but instead again it is you.

Personally the inability to hold a steady job is a red flag in my opinion.

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 2:46:37 PM   
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truthfully Im just more attracted to someone that is a few years older then me, I dont think someone my own age is any more qualified at makeing choices for me then I am, maturity is a factor also Im sorry but guys my age arent mature enough for my tasts (not that there arent many much older that arent eather and Im sure a few my age are actually meture enough as well I just have not seen them) Master is 6 years older then me and that is an age difference I like (I dont want anyone younger then me or more then a few years older Im very picky bout age I guess) Its my preferance!! Now if i had found someone the same age as me and we clicked then fine I just dont go out of my way to find them that and i would never date anyone younger then me its odd but even if they where just a day younger the me it would still be a turn off, I dont really know why even I find that part odd!!

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 2:48:07 PM   
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OP is probably going to flame me for this one but.

To everyone whos wondering what the point of the OP was, its frustration pure and simple.  Quite frankly, if your a normal by most accounts 20 something and you identify as a Dom, you quite simply screwed to getting someone your own age, period and end of story. There are few who can manage to attract a sub around thier own age or younger in the mid 20's but thats far and few in between, and usually possess a mugh higher than average looks and stability than the average.

So I hate to say it, but to the OP, simply accept the fact that its going to be extremely difficult to have a relationship, especially any sort of 24/7, until you hit your late 20's at the earliest, and deal with it. Most subs don't care about age, they look at stability, maturity, and experience, qualities that older men almost invariably have more of than a comparable younger one. I'd say maybe about 1 out of 5-7 sub look at age first, so thems mighty hefty odds to go up against.

If it sounds like I'm being a d***head, so be it.  I'm trying to save you uncountable hours of frustration your going to experience by limiting yourself to women who already know their subs.  For what it's worth, go date vanilla girls and if you don't manage to grow your own by the time you hit 28 or 29, then start going after the already out there subs.

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 3:00:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BondageTopJere

OP is probably going to flame me for this one but.

To everyone whos wondering what the point of the OP was, its frustration pure and simple.  Quite frankly, if your a normal by most accounts 20 something and you identify as a Dom, you quite simply screwed to getting someone your own age, period and end of story. There are few who can manage to attract a sub around thier own age or younger in the mid 20's but thats far and few in between, and usually possess a mugh higher than average looks and stability than the average.

So I hate to say it, but to the OP, simply accept the fact that its going to be extremely difficult to have a relationship, especially any sort of 24/7, until you hit your late 20's at the earliest, and deal with it. Most subs don't care about age, they look at stability, maturity, and experience, qualities that older men almost invariably have more of than a comparable younger one. I'd say maybe about 1 out of 5-7 sub look at age first, so thems mighty hefty odds to go up against.

If it sounds like I'm being a d***head, so be it.  I'm trying to save you uncountable hours of frustration your going to experience by limiting yourself to women who already know their subs.  For what it's worth, go date vanilla girls and if you don't manage to grow your own by the time you hit 28 or 29, then start going after the already out there subs.


You had me there till that last part... It is not the smartest of ideas to go about trying to convert a venilla into a sub, Im sorry but that is more futile and more frustrateing then dateing in your own interest area. It seems to me like a total waist of time to perposfully go dateing in the venilla community with the idea that he will convert one of them, and I find you rather imeture for planting that idea in his head at all.

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 3:09:24 PM   
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From my own experience, I prefer older due to the simple fact that the older Masters/Doms proved to have much more capability of conducting an interesting conversation past the "do you have a pic?" question. I've attempted time and time again to have intelligent discourse with younger ones but quite honestly, keeping the conversation going was just too much work

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 6:13:22 PM   
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You sound prejudiced against an age difference in relationships in general, not simply in BDSM.
My parents are not only 20 years apart in age, they did not speak the same language when they met. (My mother is Dominican and my father is Yugoslavian.)
Yet here we are now, my father is 70 years old with a youngest son who is 14, and we are all doing fine, thanks. My father is also a superintendent and undertakes regular hard physical labor. "Senior citizens" are not the frail untouchable blossoms you imagine.
Consider how the comments you make may be offensive to those who live the reality you deride as impossible.

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 8:49:36 PM   
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You had me there till that last part... It is not the smartest of ideas to go about trying to convert a venilla into a sub, Im sorry but that is more futile and more frustrateing then dateing in your own interest area. It seems to me like a total waist of time to perposfully go dateing in the venilla community with the idea that he will convert one of them, and I find you rather imeture for planting that idea in his head at all.


Hmm, the point I was trying to make came out wrong.  By "grow your own" I meant try to find a vanilla who already has the submissive tendencies already and introducing them into D/s,  not converting wholesale.   Technically speaking, nearly everyone with our interests started off as vanilla.  Most end up finding their way into it by themselves, but that leaves a lot of people who got introduced to it by someone else.

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 8:52:16 PM   
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Here is the reason why simply it just cannot work.  5-10 years, yes it can work out fine.  But a 20 yr age difference, come on now that is like your father there.  Also lets forget about the different stages life.  People die.  So lets say you are 25 and you have a 45 year old dom.  The life expentancy is between 65-75.  So lets just say 70 for all intentive purposes that odds are he will die around 70.  So now you are 50, do you really want to be a widower at age 50?  Also now lets say you want to have kids.  Odds are again you will not have kids within the first 2 or 3 years that you are together, atleats intentionally.  So lets say you are about 29 when you want to have kids, that means he will be 49.  So you will be 30 when the kid is born, and he will be 50.  That is only if you want one kid, i mean the guy will be a senior citizen with 1 or 2 or 3 kids.  Does not matter if it is bdsm or vanilla, you cannot be as good of a father to a 5 or a 10 year old as a guy who is in his 30s can be.  If you think about it you know I am right.  Just so you all know, I am not bashing senior citizens.  Now yes I am aware that there are a few out there who have all this energy when they are in their 50s and 60s, but when you are in your 60s, are you still going to be wanting to run around and chasing after kids and wanting to play football or baseball with them 4-5 days a week plus all the other things you have to do while being a parent?


james was 4 months younger than me.  we were 41 when he passed away.  we  had four years together.

LordFallcon was nearly 41 when he died...he was nearly 3 years younger than i am.  we didnt have a full two years.

age doesnt have doodly-squat to do with anything, heart failure (james) and advanced cancer (LordFallcon) are no respecters of anything.

and as far as it goes, my lovely 'nilla hubby is 9 years younger than i am.  and we're about to celebrate 15 years next month.

so its all relative

kitten who is maudlin today thinking about those who have passed...

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 8:53:30 PM   
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oh yeah and Sir is 52 to my 43.  forgot that bit

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 9:02:15 PM   
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Here is the reason why simply it just cannot work.  5-10 years, yes it can work out fine.  But a 20 yr age difference, come on now that is like your father there.  Also lets forget about the different stages life.  People die.  So lets say you are 25 and you have a 45 year old dom.  The life expentancy is between 65-75.  So lets just say 70 for all intentive purposes that odds are he will die around 70.  So now you are 50, do you really want to be a widower at age 50?  Also now lets say you want to have kids.  Odds are again you will not have kids within the first 2 or 3 years that you are together, atleats intentionally.  So lets say you are about 29 when you want to have kids, that means he will be 49.  So you will be 30 when the kid is born, and he will be 50.  That is only if you want one kid, i mean the guy will be a senior citizen with 1 or 2 or 3 kids.  Does not matter if it is bdsm or vanilla, you cannot be as good of a father to a 5 or a 10 year old as a guy who is in his 30s can be.  If you think about it you know I am right.  Just so you all know, I am not bashing senior citizens.  Now yes I am aware that there are a few out there who have all this energy when they are in their 50s and 60s, but when you are in your 60s, are you still going to be wanting to run around and chasing after kids and wanting to play football or baseball with them 4-5 days a week plus all the other things you have to do while being a parent?


Hello mercmjm. My wife-slave is 10 years younger than I. In her country nobody will find anything 'strange' up to 15 years difference. More than this? they ask if the man is good looking! It is cultural. Women value experience in males. It is not looking for daddy, (kink?). The longevity rational does not apply as people die in accidents, of disease and some live way past the average (statistics!).

With my slave I have my second daughter who will be 32 when I'm 85. My wife will be 75 and (maybe if I find the time) I should be looking for another sub as my household goes Poly. This should give my wife a little time off, maybe I'm not sure.

As to being a better father at 30 to a 5-10 year old than at 60-65 (the age I WILL BE!) I think your full of it and am convinced you don't know shit about fatherhood.

Though I may have respect for you enough to give you the benefit of the doubt in posting about age theory in BDSM, I will remind you my young inexperienced 22 year old friend  that you have just posted the most offensive (and stupid) comments pertaining to fatherhood of older men. But, since your just an arrogant young fuck with a laughable mindset, I think I will say this to you: 'HAR!HAR!HAR....HAR! (lol) RL.



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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 9:20:51 PM   
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You sound prejudiced against an age difference in relationships in general, not simply in BDSM.
My parents are not only 20 years apart in age, they did not speak the same language when they met. (My mother is Dominican and my father is Yugoslavian.)
Yet here we are now, my father is 70 years old with a youngest son who is 14, and we are all doing fine, thanks. My father is also a superintendent and undertakes regular hard physical labor. "Senior citizens" are not the frail untouchable blossoms you imagine.
Consider how the comments you make may be offensive to those who live the reality you deride as impossible.



Hello haysup. You go girl! My point exactly! (theory vs reality) RL.

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 9:41:28 PM   
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If it sounds like I'm being a d***head, so be it.  I'm trying to save you uncountable hours of frustration your going to experience by limiting yourself to women who already know their subs.  For what it's worth, go date vanilla girls and if you don't manage to grow your own by the time you hit 28 or 29, then start going after the already out there subs.
 

Find a college with a good Pride group (seems contrary to the purpose but hear me out). A good, active Pride group is a good sign of a healthy sex scene. Make friends, ask around. I know plenty of young BDSMers my age and guess what? They are dating people their own age.

It may just vary from scene to scene but I don't think the OP should give up entirely.

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 10:12:32 PM   
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Just a few things...
 
My parents had a 13 year age difference and their marriage lasted 25 years until my father died at 66. I was the "surprise" and enjoyed my father's retirement during my youth. Truly, we were able to spend a lot of quality time together, and I would venture to guess that I actually knew him better than my 3 siblings...the youngest of which is 10 years older than me. He was a good father to all of us...but I really had a chance to get to know him in his later years, and I'm sure he had changed during the years that my other siblings were growing.
 
My Dominant is 15 years my senior. We plan on marrying and having chidren. I think He will be a wonderful father and enjoy our child/children at any age. I would be small minded to think otherwise. We've lived together for over 2 years.
 
I am in love with my Daddy and I also know that if I had met Him when He was my age...well, I'm fairly sure I wouldn't have been very impressed. He's changed over the years, as we all do... and I appreciate the changes.
 
I didn't go out looking for someone older than me...in fact, I didn't go out looking at all. If I had been looking, I would have found someone local. The distance was much harder to overcome than the age difference.
 
We each bring things into each other's lives. He enjoys my naivete in some subjects, and is sometimes surprised at my maturity on others. We learn something new about each other every day...I think that's the coolest part. He's got an awesome POV on things and appreciates mine, as well.
 
The only time we really think about the age difference is when someone brings it up in one of these inumerable threads.

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/11/2007 11:46:23 PM   
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Good question – personally I like older men it’s just what I like, but then there are exceptions to that rule, I guess it depends on how you click also.
 
But a lot believe that older Dominants are more experienced and no doubt some are but it’s not always the case, and some might think they will learn more from someone that is experienced.
 
Another thought occurred to me is that subbies my age (46) can not imagine been Dominated by someone that is basically a kid in their eyes, but then I have come across Dominants that are far more mature than what I am (which is not hard) who are younger than what I am, there could be many reasons for that trend but it’s a interesting question.

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RE: question to young subs and slaves - 5/12/2007 4:04:14 AM   
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Older men are yummy delicious wonderful treats!
My dom is 15 years older than me which equals serious yum factor *grinzzzz*
Young guys hold absolutely no appeal for me, infact most of them have a lot of turn offs in my view.
Older men are yummy delicious wonderful treats!!!

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