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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 11:27:38 AM   
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I love ankle length cotton skirts....fields of flowers....and sandy beaches.....but i swear i'm not a  douche bag!!!!

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 11:39:58 AM   
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is my "romantic" attitude also linked to a positive attitude? is the fact that I'm feeling so dang cranky the impetus behind my loss of romantic illusion today?


I really dispise the kitschy hearts and flowers sold to you by hallmark sentimental crap.

But, I do think that without some ability to suspend disbelief and engage in fantasy, life really sucks.  Without  embellishment, life becomes barren and void of meaning. Without illusions, we become cynics. 

I dunno where I read it, but, someone once said that its our very ability to engage in fantasy that allows us to deal with reality.

So yeah, I would say that some kind of 'romance' is a positive trait.



The problem with giving into cynicism is that it fux up your opportunities. In reality, ideas you believe are absurd lead to success! Cynics are all quite logically boring, because they don't have anything fresh to spew or reach for, because they've installed these "hrmph, now let's be realistic.." obstacles in their own psyche.

If you truly believe there is no magick, i can absolutely guarantee there will NEVER be any for you. Dispel negativity through creative activities.

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 11:54:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5

If you truly believe there is no magick, i can absolutely guarantee there will NEVER be any for you. Dispel negativity through creative activities.

peepeegirl5



Now THIS i actually believe!!
i WANT some fantasy when i am done being a responsible human at the end of the day, i  WANT escapism, i WANT something above and beyond a vanilla reality existence! i don't want the drippy sweet scenario of so many of the profiles we are discussing, but hell, why settle for "reality" when you can create something better~

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 12:14:55 PM   
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personally, this slave thinks it's your cranky mood, not their refusal to face some sort of fantasy that there is a universal relationship or personal identity reality that applies to everyone.  it's a lot like saying all those who are in M/s relationships or all of those who are Dominant universally face the same issues and feel the same way about them, or else they are looney and living in some sort of dream-world.
 
this slave's reality(truth) is not the same reality(truth) as yours, or anyone else's.  How?  this slave didn't have your ancestors, wasn't raised by your folks, doesn't have the same preferences or beliefs as you, isn't annoyed or turned on or saddened by the same things as you, hasn't had the same experiences that shape an individual's unique identity that you have, isn't involved with who you are involved with, etc., etc.
 
since you asked for the input, this slave would consider a post designed to provide space to belittle others for their choice of how they write their personal profile, and their perception of their reality as small-minded, attention-seeking, condescending and a little sadistic.
 
maybe in your perception of reality belonging to someone, FOR YOU can be unpleasant from time to time.  not everyone feels the same way, thankfully.

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 12:20:13 PM   
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I tend to be an incurable romantic at heart.  I think many people get burned out on romantic notions in time, and give up on their dreams.  While it's impossiable to 100% reach your romantic ideals... if you obtain 75% or hell even 50% of your dreams and desires you are better off.   Too many people shit can their dreams and romantic notions, give up on what they want in life, only to find themselves older, bitter, jaded and cynical of the world around them.  



I think if i weren't an incurable roamntic at heart i would have become discouraged and given up my search a long time  ago ....  i also  think reality has changed my beliefs about  what the  real thing looks like when it happens but  i sincerely hope it never changes my belief that it truly exists.

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 1:50:26 PM   
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i am a hopeless romantic, but i realized at a young age that Prince Charming's horse is not white, the Queen Mother is a nosey old biddy and Prince Charming Himself gets gas and has bad days. there is still the laundry and cooking to do and the little princes and princesses to look after. but if the One you find really is a Prince and not just Charming, then it is worth the discolored horse, bitchy mother-in-law and bad smells and occasional attatude issues to have the honor of doing His laundry, cooking His meals and looking after His little princes and princesses.

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 2:13:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dawntreader

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ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5

If you truly believe there is no magick, i can absolutely guarantee there will NEVER be any for you. Dispel negativity through creative activities.

peepeegirl5



Now THIS i actually believe!!
i WANT some fantasy when i am done being a responsible human at the end of the day, i  WANT escapism, i WANT something above and beyond a vanilla reality existence! i don't want the drippy sweet scenario of so many of the profiles we are discussing, but hell, why settle for "reality" when you can create something better~


I comepletely agree, this is very much the way I think. To "realize" means to make something real. I am certainly one that falls into the category of dreamers, or visionaries per se'. Not the romance novel, or commercial picture of  two people in slow motion running towards each other in a field. But the one that knows that in that field will surely be ditches to trip in, and cow patties hiding in those weeds on the way. Some of the "fantasy", can become real, if we make it so. I don't find anything wrong with that, as long as I continue to know the difference.

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 2:15:11 PM   
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Wicked games are often lost...but Oone can dream at little cost.

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 2:39:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: themischievous1

Your post kind of cracks me up, as in amuses me in a wry sort of way, and that's a good thing. I can use a little amusement after what I've been through. I'm not trying to offend either; I think your post is fitting and certainly accurate, at least in my particular situation.

I very recently changed my ID to "switch" because of what you've written here (though I detest the labeling of everyone that goes on):

quote:

  I have romanticized being a submissive in my mind many times in the past, as much as I know that the reality of belonging to someone means it can be smelly, tiresome, sweaty (in a bad way) and unpleasant...is it just human nature to forget the unpleasant realities when they aren't right in front of our faces? 


For me, the unpleasant realities were that he didn't bathe, (try once a week), he wouldn't work, he had anger issues (as in was abusive), completely avoided communication, calling everything I said and thought "bitching," and smelly was putting it lightly since he soon began to chain smoke. Add that to the not bathing and I think you get the picture. Needless to say, I bailed.

Naw..there was nothing romantic about being a submissive whatsoever and it succeeded in turning me off to submission so thoroughly that I'm not sure I'll desire to experience that state of being again for quite some time.


You know, perhaps it is the romantic AND the optimist in me that is saddened and bothered by the words above.  Why?

Well, because there are some of us male dominants who do bathe (Hell, I even like a little soap with my showers), who do brush our teeth (though I cannot go for the artificial white like paper look), who have done a lot of work on all of our issues, and who do not use "bitchiness" on the submissive's part as the excuse for our own, wrong, behavior. (though that comes with the caveat that there are several blurry lines, as discussed on here in prior threads, between true "bitchiness" vs. bitchiness about not wanting to submit to something but having a very good reason vs. bitchiness that is due to not wanting/not liking/not feeling like submitting to a particular action at that particular time.)

There are some of us male dominants who like to give our submissive partners back massages after a hard day and some of us who even believe that, if she has worked outside the home, not every chore at home is hers too (I know...blasphemous, undomly thinking on my part to some).

Nothing wrong with switches...I know a couple of great people who identify as such...but please do not let the behavior of someone who "sounds" as if he did not or could not live up to his claimed label sour you and turn you off from your submissive side.

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 5:06:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5

quote:

ORIGINAL: gypsygrl

quote:

is my "romantic" attitude also linked to a positive attitude? is the fact that I'm feeling so dang cranky the impetus behind my loss of romantic illusion today?


I really dispise the kitschy hearts and flowers sold to you by hallmark sentimental crap.

But, I do think that without some ability to suspend disbelief and engage in fantasy, life really sucks.  Without  embellishment, life becomes barren and void of meaning. Without illusions, we become cynics. 

I dunno where I read it, but, someone once said that its our very ability to engage in fantasy that allows us to deal with reality.

So yeah, I would say that some kind of 'romance' is a positive trait.



The problem with giving into cynicism is that it fux up your opportunities. In reality, ideas you believe are absurd lead to success! Cynics are all quite logically boring, because they don't have anything fresh to spew or reach for, because they've installed these "hrmph, now let's be realistic.." obstacles in their own psyche.

If you truly believe there is no magick, i can absolutely guarantee there will NEVER be any for you. Dispel negativity through creative activities.

peepeegirl5



There is magic in the world and it can be found...But it seems far too many seem to use this as some sort of mystical escape from all that is real....Everyone would like to have their own little peepee girl that they could take long warm showers and bubble baths with.....Who wouldn't want to spend all day sucking on nipples, smooshing our coochies together and then drinking till full  of each others pee pee?

But alas, I have to work and pay bills, shit and fart...And then there is that annoying nose hair that occassionally needs to be trimmed.....I want my own pee pee girl....Anyone out there?

I shot that fucking pegusas and I am in the process of making some delicious sausage and jerky.....And all of my rainbows have turned to different hues of dung....I am alone.

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 5:22:23 PM   
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I shot that fucking pegusas


Hey!


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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 5:23:39 PM   
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I am alone.


That's because you don't fucking answer email.

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 5:28:13 PM   
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This is one reason i am glad i have come into my submission later in life - i don't think i could have done it with the distractions of my previous life but now that i have done all that i felt "obligated" to do by society, family and friends, i can be me...i can choose to put more magic, fantasy, adventure and even romance into this journey and i am so grateful~

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 5:37:12 PM   
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Before my Daddy, i totally romantisized (sp) everything...i am a hopeless romantic anyway....i had this vision of what it would be like due to things i'd read and seen on the internet.

Then when i got involved with my Daddy, although there was romance there, it wasn't in the area that i epected it to be ( i never expected to have a Master spoil me at all)...anyway...there isn't the whole punishment ethos going on with my Daddy (this was something i romantisized, being an exSAM that felt she needed it beaten out of her)...For awhile i was confused.

Now, a year later, i see things much more clearly and the REALITY of the life i have as his slave is WAAAYYY more romantic in alot of ways than i could've hoped for. Granted, the romance isn't what i expected but the freedom from being his slave and the acceptance and understanding of THAT is very romantic to me and so is the way he is helping me grow.

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 5:49:21 PM   
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maybe in your perception of reality belonging to someone, FOR YOU can be unpleasant from time to time.  not everyone feels the same way, thankfully.


so, out of curiousity, are you saying you never have a bad day?  ever? 

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 7:25:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lighthearted

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth


maybe in your perception of reality belonging to someone, FOR YOU can be unpleasant from time to time.  not everyone feels the same way, thankfully.


so, out of curiousity, are you saying you never have a bad day?  ever? 


this slave's reality of belonging to someone is not the cause of one bad day for the last 4 years of being owned.  the reality of belonging to Master, for this slave, is cherished and appreciated, each and every day.

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 7:32:35 PM   
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congratulations.  that sounds so...romantic.

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 7:33:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lighthearted

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth


maybe in your perception of reality belonging to someone, FOR YOU can be unpleasant from time to time.  not everyone feels the same way, thankfully.


so, out of curiousity, are you saying you never have a bad day?  ever? 


I have bad days, most days are wonderful, even the bad days are a blessing in their own way. I even get annoyed with things that are unbecoming of me to get annoyed by.. it is called "being human"... Some people make threads about that which annoys them, others post about things they do not understand and judge them in their journal entries... to each their own pet peeve...lol

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 7:35:40 PM   
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I think some people just read too many books and watch too many movies. They get it in their head that they will find that dream Master/Mistress that will take away all the pain of day to day living so that they can stay home dressed and beautiful in a slave girls costume. They will never be bored, they will always be loved, used and taken care of. No hint of reality shall darken their submissive idea of the dream Dom/me.

Reality just isn't like that. There are going to be frustrating days no matter what lifestyle you lead. There will be disappointment, there will be some stress. Nothing is perfect, no matter how much we try. So going into a relationship you have to be realistic about it and go into it knowing as much as you possibly can about that other person. Have real expectations and an idea of who you are and where it is you want your life to go.

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RE: Submission & Romanticizing - 5/17/2007 7:38:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lighthearted

congratulations.  that sounds so...romantic.


thanks!!  it might sound romantic, inhuman (thanks juliaoceania!!!) or whatever else you ladies would like to call it, this slave calls it blessed.

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