Mercnbeth
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I cannot find anything in it which relates to Carter being involved in the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948, or his being involved in Shah Reza Pavlavi assuming power and becoming pro-West circa 1941.
My error, I was wrong in not being clear as to my reference. It was to this post:
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People point to the President Kennedy assassination as a cross-road. They are of the opinion that the Vietnam War would not have happened if President Kennedy completed his administration. I am of the same opinion regarding the radical Islam movement in general and the attack on the World Trade Center specific.
One of the lasting images of Vietnam and the fall of Saigon was the helicopter taking off from the roof of the embassy. A sovereign embassy, which until the very last helicopter took off, was defended and never compromised. When the Iranians took over the US embassy in Iran, President Carter surrendered its sovereignty immediately. In doing so, especially in the eyes of our enemies, he had surrendered. In not given the government of Iran the ultimatum to honor the sovereignty of the US embassy and releasing the hostages, he surrendered to radical form of Islam represented by the hostage takers. Radical Islam became a power, with the titular head the Ayatollah, and the enforcement power being those representing the radical fringe. Radical Islam had taken on the "great Satan" and made him impotent. The face of that failure is President Carter. Up until that point, all that occurred could be seen as practical international politics and a desire to remove a dictator. The embassy situation was an issue of sovereignty. When that sovereignty was not honored those responsible should have been attacked, if not by the nation the embassy resided, by the USA. By not honoring the international sovereignty of an Embassy the host nation abdicated its responsibility in the international forum. Unless, as it turns out, the attack becomes the focal point in the establishing of a new identity. President Carter's administration and its impotence facilitated the birth and established the power of radical Islam as an international political force.
Twenty-three years later, the child born that day was a major factor the attacks of 9/11.
That said, I am eternally grateful for President Carter. Without his actions, I most likely would still be working in NYC. I am in LA as a result. I met beth. I have never been this happy.
Just as there are many people and their families who are of the opinion that their sons would not have died in Vietnam if President Kennedy had not been killed. My opinion is that my long time partner, friend, and many other friends and acquaintances, as well as over three thousand other individuals; would not be dead. It is my opinion that my office and the building that contained it, would still be standing if President Carter had defended USA sovereignty in Iran. This is my opinion. It is as legitimate as those concerning JFK. In deference to the position of 'Realone' on what occurred that day - it will until the day I die - remain the fundamental cause of my opinion regarding President Carter.
I never ask a currently seated administration to change the past. 1941 or 1948 may have contributed to the situation of 1979 but President Carter's inaction should not be excused by who had the power, or who did what in 1941 or 1948. President Carter should be judged for what came his way during his administration.
I won't excuse President Bush's actions in the Middle East because of what occurred in 1941 or 1948. If you want to, it is your prerogative. Being selective in referencing history to rationalize a position would appear to be hypocritical to this observer of history. In every instance what came before has an impact on what is happening now. But what a leader does when faced with today speaks to his ability and is how history will judge him.
You may argue and debate opinion as to the appropriateness of everything President Carter did concerning Iran. However, similar to the make-up of Congress one fact stands alone.
He was the first, and to date only, President to abandon the concept of the sovereignty of an Embassy.
In my opinion, all the occurred from 1941 on set the stage for radical Islam. President Carter was the director of the production.
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