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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 12:34:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Seeing as how you are blatantly turning a blind eye to all the photographic/videographic/documentation/testimonial/investigative/logical/scientific evidence that completely destroys this utter horseshit you have been spreading through the forums for the last year and a half.

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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 12:36:53 AM   
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Not to mention the BRUTAL impact that loss of gold would have had on the world economy, considering every country's economy is based on the amount of gold it has on hand.


Did you miss when the US ditched the Gold Standard back during Nixon?

That aside, the Vault was found. That's why the IAFF ***HATE*** Rudy Guiliani.

When the Vault was found, Rudy changed the mission from Recovery of Victims, to SCOOPING UP THE GARBAGE AND DUMPING IT ON STATEN ISLAND.

Yup. ALL THE REMAINING VICTIMS WERE TREATED LIKE GARBAGE ONCE THEY FOUND THE VAULT.

Nice going Rudy. Asshole.



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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 12:38:32 AM   
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Not to mention the BRUTAL impact that loss of gold would have had on the world economy, considering every country's economy is based on the amount of gold it has on hand.


Did you miss when the US ditched the Gold Standard back during Nixon?




And did you miss the fact that you can not print more money than you have in reserve or the money you print is not worth the paper it is printed on?  Or perhaps you are COMPLETELY oblivious to the reasons the Federal Reserve holds on to billions and billions of dollars worth of gold in numerous locations scattered around the United States?

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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 12:40:22 AM   
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Not to mention the BRUTAL impact that loss of gold would have had on the world economy, considering every country's economy is based on the amount of gold it has on hand.


Did you miss when the US ditched the Gold Standard back during Nixon?




And did you miss the fact that you can not print more money than you have in reserve or the money you print is not worth the paper it is printed on? Or perhaps you are COMPLETELY oblivious to the reasons the Federal Reserve holds on to billions and billions of dollars worth of gold in numerous locations scattered around the United States?


Do the words "Fiat Money" mean anything to you?



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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 12:41:45 AM   
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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 12:54:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes...  It is currency that bears with it clutching on to a wing and a prayer that those holding fiat powers will redeem the currency on demand.  It is a credit system.  Whether you like it or not, it is still tied to the amount of gold held in reserve, merely at a lower percentage and a decreased value.

It is also the reason there is so much corruption, as entities holding large amounts of fiat currency attempt to control those holding fiat power.  Governments pay for war with fiat currency, putting themselves in debt, believing that the war will offer significantly greater return than what they owe.

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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 12:55:00 AM   
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i am still waiting for your comment and explanation on how wtc 7 "collapsed" after 5 whole hours of standing on 911


well?  what brought down bld 7?  fire? "BRUTAL" impact?

see words like that are called hyperbole.   i am serious i want to knwo what brought down #7 since NO PLANE HIT IT?



I am quite certain that your video "evidence" plainly shows Elvis walking into the building with a backpack full of Yoko Ono albums and pipe bombs very shortly before the Illuminati shot down the UFO that slammed into it.



see there you go... doing the same thing these guys in your vid clip did....  hey i can pick shit those kids did several years ago that i will never support too as i knwo they are incorrect.  you cant just take every claim and then tack it on to the 911 truth movement without totally mistrpresenting what they stand for.

The truth movement debunks other conspiracy theorists like your ufo sneer and what not.   They have a very good case and its easy to pick all the buillshit theories that the movement does not support and throw them up here and debate it to discard what they really stand for as bullshit and never bring up the correct issues.

No one likes to talk about wtc 7 for some reason because as we know it fell to and no plane hit it and it had a couple teeeneee fires in it...  No one can explain that, and it looks like you may be having difficulty too and i think that is a very important point to know and understand when considering this case dont you?


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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 1:00:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		No..  Nobody makes a huge scene over WTC 7 because the VERY fucking clear evidence completely demolishes the theorist movements claims for WTC 1 and 2.  The commission did not bring up WTC 7 in it's reports because it was superfluous to the matter at hand.  Completely trashing this theorist horseshit you have been spreading around by extension completely demolishes your other theories as well.

Question it all you want.  Your little clique is the only one that actually gives a shit.   You can not latch on to WTC 7, which has remained "officially unexplained" and use that as a launching pad for all these completely baseless theories and accusations that make up the complete load of horseshit that is being spread around on YouTube, theorist websites and the crud that you and your buddies are polluting the forums with.  It is too bad they can not be bothered to focus on the facts as opposed to the fictions.  No small wonder.  The facts completely destroy their position.

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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 1:00:52 AM   
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Seeing as how you are blatantly turning a blind eye to all the photographic/videographic/documentation/testimonial/investigative/logical/scientific evidence that completely destroys this utter horseshit you have been spreading through the forums for the last year and a half.



oh now i dont know about that.  actually i make it apoint to talk with people about it and it seems that more and more people are coming to the conclusion that at a minimum that the gov knew about it and did nothing about it or maybe even was involved since they were involved in the 1993 bombing and that is a matter of record!!!!!!


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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 1:01:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yet WTC 7 was hit by derbis from the falling of the other 2 towers.  Of course Real you have to tell the "falling nice and Neatly" lie to actually make that point.  http://www.zombietime.com/wtc_9-13-2001/    Wait I know they are all fake photos made by those damn Jews and Illuminatis, right?

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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 1:03:46 AM   
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Not to mention the BRUTAL impact that loss of gold would have had on the world economy, considering every country's economy is based on the amount of gold it has on hand.


Did you miss when the US ditched the Gold Standard back during Nixon?

That aside, the Vault was found. That's why the IAFF ***HATE*** Rudy Guiliani.

When the Vault was found, Rudy changed the mission from Recovery of Victims, to SCOOPING UP THE GARBAGE AND DUMPING IT ON STATEN ISLAND.

Yup. ALL THE REMAINING VICTIMS WERE TREATED LIKE GARBAGE ONCE THEY FOUND THE VAULT.

Nice going Rudy. Asshole.




Yah no shit that pissed me off too, and then insult to injury destroy all the evidence like it was radioactive or something and had to get it out quickly.


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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 1:07:28 AM   
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Not to mention the BRUTAL impact that loss of gold would have had on the world economy, considering every country's economy is based on the amount of gold it has on hand.


Did you miss when the US ditched the Gold Standard back during Nixon?




And did you miss the fact that you can not print more money than you have in reserve or the money you print is not worth the paper it is printed on?  Or perhaps you are COMPLETELY oblivious to the reasons the Federal Reserve holds on to billions and billions of dollars worth of gold in numerous locations scattered around the United States?



what fucking gold??????????????

there hasnt been an audit since dickie tricky took us off the gold standard!!!  That and anyone who tried to force an audit died for some reason.   Sort of like kenndy when he tried to put us back on the silver system.   now who could that hurt?????


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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 1:10:17 AM   
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When the Vault was found, Rudy changed the mission from Recovery of Victims, to SCOOPING UP THE GARBAGE AND DUMPING IT ON STATEN ISLAND.

Yup. ALL THE REMAINING VICTIMS WERE TREATED LIKE GARBAGE ONCE THEY FOUND THE VAULT.




More conspiracy theorist horseshit that was completely flattened by the facts.   The well-known and published fact that the victims were being carried by the Government long after the fact, until the Government finally made public that the funds were running out.  I guess spending $58M USD in 2006 for victim assistance and budgetting $20M USD for 2007 is not enough for you?  I mean, I understand that the Labour Movement is seeking $220M a year, but still..  Your assertion is very obvious bullshit.  Do a Google search.

See, the theorists are so full of shit you can see it floating around in their eyes.

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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 1:13:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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Not to mention the BRUTAL impact that loss of gold would have had on the world economy, considering every country's economy is based on the amount of gold it has on hand.


Did you miss when the US ditched the Gold Standard back during Nixon?




And did you miss the fact that you can not print more money than you have in reserve or the money you print is not worth the paper it is printed on?  Or perhaps you are COMPLETELY oblivious to the reasons the Federal Reserve holds on to billions and billions of dollars worth of gold in numerous locations scattered around the United States?



what fucking gold??????????????

there hasnt been an audit since dickie tricky took us off the gold standard!!!  That and anyone who tried to force an audit died for some reason.   Sort of like kenndy when he tried to put us back on the silver system.   now who could that hurt?????



$162.7 BILLION..  As of February 3, 2006.

http://www.hianswer.com/other/2418-4-hianswer.html

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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 1:13:42 AM   
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No..  Nobody makes a huge scene over WTC 7 because the VERY fucking clear evidence completely demolishes the theorist movements claims for WTC 1 and 2.  The commission did not bring up WTC 7 in it's reports because it was superfluous to the matter at hand.  Completely trashing this theorist horseshit you have been spreading around by extension completely demolishes your other theories as well.

Question it all you want.  Your little clique is the only one that actually gives a shit.   You can not latch on to WTC 7, which has remained "officially unexplained" and use that as a launching pad for all these completely baseless theories and accusations that make up the complete load of horseshit that is being spread around on YouTube, theorist websites and the crud that you and your buddies are polluting the forums with.  It is too bad they can not be bothered to focus on the facts as opposed to the fictions.  No small wonder.  The facts completely destroy their position.



you know what?  if i had a penny for everyone who has thrown mounds of hyperbole at me i would have more money than the rothchilds and morgans put together...  OOOps thats right they dont exist i forgot, or did you say something about ufos lol

So they can come up with ALL the answers for wtc 1 and 2 but are fucking clueless and dont give a damn about a 47story skyscraper that is superfluous and irrelevant to that disatrous day huh?

The reason they wont touch it is becaus elarry numbnuts silversteion fucked up and said they dropped the fucker.   and you were saying about bullshit?  wait i need to roll my pants up a little more.


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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 1:17:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hyperbole???  You are the only one presenting hyperbole, ala YouTube and Google Video.  And they are accredited sources HOW again?  Remind me.  Their insided "sources" get fucking FIRED for lying.  Very credible, I must admit.

You have been presented facts.  Facts that do not fit your horseshit.  So you ignore them and go off on a tangent.  We will ALL note how you have not addressed one single point... Just introduced a bunch of straw men that in no way support the utter bullshit you have been spreading around here for a year and a half.

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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 1:18:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

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Not to mention the BRUTAL impact that loss of gold would have had on the world economy, considering every country's economy is based on the amount of gold it has on hand.


Did you miss when the US ditched the Gold Standard back during Nixon?




And did you miss the fact that you can not print more money than you have in reserve or the money you print is not worth the paper it is printed on?  Or perhaps you are COMPLETELY oblivious to the reasons the Federal Reserve holds on to billions and billions of dollars worth of gold in numerous locations scattered around the United States?



what fucking gold??????????????

there hasnt been an audit since dickie tricky took us off the gold standard!!!  That and anyone who tried to force an audit died for some reason.   Sort of like kenndy when he tried to put us back on the silver system.   now who could that hurt?????



$162.7 BILLION..  As of February 3, 2006.

http://www.hianswer.com/other/2418-4-hianswer.html



Oh fuck we are in great shape then! 


U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 20 May 2007 at 08:16:28 AM GMT is:
The estimated population of the United States is 301,929,470
so each citizen's share of this debt is $29,171.06. The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$1.29 billion per day since September 29, 2006!
Concerned? Then tell Congress and the White House!

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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 1:20:59 AM   
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The national debt is as a result of borrowing from other countries and transactions in fiat currency.  It has sweet fuck all to do with the amount of paper money currently in circulation.

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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 1:23:49 AM   
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Hyperbole???  You are the only one presenting hyperbole, ala YouTube and Google Video.  And they are accredited sources HOW again?  Remind me.  Their insided "sources" get fucking FIRED for lying.  Very credible, I must admit.

You have been presented facts.  Facts that do not fit your horseshit.  So you ignore them and go off on a tangent.  We will ALL note how you have not addressed one single point... Just introduced a bunch of straw men that in no way support the utter bullshit you have been spreading around here for a year and a half.



doooood wtf are you talking about?  straw men? do you know th4e differnce?  i am not the one who came up with the conspiracy theor of 19 arabs only to discover nearly 1/2 f them were aloive LOLOL

straw men...   i suppose bs answer that you gave me you did give me an answer on # 7, so i will post that part i promised ya :)


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RE: WTC BS conspiracy theories totally trashed. - 5/20/2007 1:25:47 AM   
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You are clueless.

The national debt is as a result of borrowing from other countries and transactions in fiat currency.  It has sweet fuck all to do with the amount of paper money currently in circulation.



right because we have nmoney for nothing now days LOL  the hell it doesnt, it mean that they can want to cash in and we aintgot the fucking funds to pay up!!!



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