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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 9:50:44 PM   
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It's also flown below the UN flag.


You're right.

"New York
prohibits the UN flag above the U.S. except at UN HQ. Flags which cast contempt on U.S. flag are prohibited. Foreign flags on public property are prohibited. "
http://flagspot.net/flags/us-law.html

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 9:52:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Popeye, you should also realize that this is not a new idea and those who have tried this have met with fierce opposition from Veteran's groups, their communities and some have had their properties damaged as a result and even had their lives threatened.

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 9:52:18 PM   
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Navy, there IS distress in the land!
Do you want your country to be part of the North American Union with Canada and Mexico and we all meld into one big country with no "U.S. Constitution"?
My flag will be flown UPSIDE DOWN to send a message to those BASTARDS in Washington who would even THINK of such a TREASONOUS idea!
Bush and his rich buddies want to kill the middle class and make themselves even richer and this will do it!
They already screwed over the working class in this country, didn't they?


You are using Old Glory to make a POLITICAL STATEMENT. there is NO IMMENENT DAGER TO LIFE OR PROPERTY. 
And actually with unemployment down, stock market at an all time high, and more middle class citizens becoming millionares, I dont see them getting screwed at all.

And look at the EU each country retained it's own governments, it's just an ALLIANCE like NATO.


   Navy:
        Not sure how you wound up with my name on top of Popeye's quote, but I expect you will figure it out and make sure not to do it again.

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 9:55:03 PM   
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Not on US Soil, on US soil NOTHING is flown above Old Glory, if anything the UN flag is on a seperate pole

http://www.usflag.org/uscode36.html

No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided that nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:03:09 PM   
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Popeye, you should also realize that this is not a new idea and those who have tried this have met with fierce opposition from Veteran's groups, their communities and some have had their properties damaged as a result and even had their lives threatened.


Mistoferin, there's a lot of Veterans that will be doing it.
I'm a Veteran.

There's only one "flag" that flies above the American flag and it's not really a flag it's a pennant, the church pennant.

L.A. in New Hampshire they burn "U.N." flags in public!
We did it after a Memorial Day celebration.
Who was going to stop us?
There were about 100 of us Veterans and three cops too.
Doused it with gas, poof!

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:03:26 PM   
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    How about a rule to keep the flames down.  Only people who actually own a US flag that regularly flies from their home can object to this.


I do. Whether I am on my ship or at home,  there is a Flag flying from a pole, with the proper illumination at night, and it goes to half mast on all appropriate days. Including(but not limited to) the 30 days after the death of a president, Memorial Day, Pearl Harbor day, 9-11, etc... and other time ordered by the President of the United States(who by the way is techinically the only authority who can legally order the lowering of flags nation wide)
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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:06:13 PM   
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[   Navy:
       Not sure how you wound up with my name on top of Popeye's quote, but I expect you will figure it out and make sure not to do it again.


I believe he was quoting you in his post, and when I hit quote your name came up and I accidentally deleted the wrong one...my apologies

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:07:30 PM   
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Provided that nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.


LA,
UN HQ is not US property, it is considered UN property

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:08:41 PM   
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    How about a rule to keep the flames down.  Only people who actually own a US flag that regularly flies from their home can object to this.


I fly the flag.  My UM is on the Honor Guard, raising and lowering the flag with respect 5 days a week, and will be leading the Pledge of Allegiance at a local ceremony this week; Dad and an uncle were Navy veterans; my UM's grandfather was killed at Pearl Harbor while serving his country under the U.S. flag (leaving a young pregnant widow); and I have ancestors all the way back to the Revolutionary War who fought for this country.  Do I qualify?

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:09:05 PM   
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Mistoferin, there's a lot of Veterans that will be doing it.
I'm a Veteran.


And I am sure that alot of them won't and alot of them will also be offended by it. Personally, I think it's disgraceful thing to do and I will certainly not be participating.

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:14:28 PM   
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Mistoferin, there's a lot of Veterans that will be doing it.
I'm a Veteran.


And I am sure that alot of them won't and alot of them will also be offended by it. Personally, I think it's disgraceful thing to do and I will certainly not be participating.


Where was all the "offense" when illegal aliens flew it upside down under a Mexican flag?

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:14:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am a widow of a Nam Vet, AND I am not even a American.......YET... I am german
I AM OFFENDED..... my late husband laid his life down on the line to defend your silly ass and your right to fly it upside down.
What have you done for your counntry here lately ???
Beside bitchin ??

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:14:48 PM   
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[   Navy:
      Not sure how you wound up with my name on top of Popeye's quote, but I expect you will figure it out and make sure not to do it again.


I believe he was quoting you in his post, and when I hit quote your name came up and I accidentally deleted the wrong one...my apologies



       Thanks.  I put my foot in my mouth fairly often, but other peoples are a hard limit.

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:19:30 PM   
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Where was all the "offense" when illegal aliens flew it upside down under a Mexican flag?


Well popeye, I am quite certain that anyone who would be offended if you flew your flag upside down would have been equally offended when they did it. C'mon....make sense. Two wrongs don't a positive make.

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:20:29 PM   
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     Thanks.  I put my foot in my mouth fairly often, but other peoples are a hard limit.


I understand :)

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:21:12 PM   
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Where was all the "offense" when illegal aliens flew it upside down under a Mexican flag?


Well popeye, I am quite certain that anyone who would be offended if you flew your flag upside down would have been equally offended when they did it. C'mon....make sense. Two wrongs don't a positive make.


Mist, you didn't answer my question.
You sound like a politician.
So, the illegal aliens get a "pass" again?

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:25:15 PM   
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Where was all the "offense" when illegal aliens flew it upside down under a Mexican flag?



Had I known about it I would be offended. but not disgusted like I am with you. YOU ARE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN AND A VETERAN, it is YOUR FLAG that you are disrespecting and I hope someone sees your flag when it's upsides down and takes it from you, because you dont deserve to own it if you will treat it like a piece of propoganda

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:26:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		What exactly do you want popeye...do you want me to compile a list of names of everyone who took offense? If you want to fly your flag upside down...have at it. *I* think it is disgusting and *I* will not be joining you in your pathetic display.

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:27:15 PM   
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Where was all the "offense" when illegal aliens flew it upside down under a Mexican flag?



          I heard about this.  Got a link to the details?

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RE: "Fly your Flag upside down this week!" - 5/20/2007 10:27:27 PM   
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Had I known about it I would be offended. but not disgusted like I am with you. YOU ARE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN AND A VETERAN, it is YOUR FLAG that you are disrespecting and I hope someone sees your flag when it's upsides down and takes it from you, because you dont deserve to own it if you will treat it like a piece of propoganda


Thank you!

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