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ORIGINAL: jauntyone

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melissa,
I understand your thought process here...but really....would you allow someone to chop your leg off "cause he wants to?" *yes, this is terribly extreme..but it's only to make a point*  

I would be more inclined to say I place "few" limits on myself and I don't shy away from a SSC or RACK challenge.  Some people are strange enough to want to do things that are waaayyy beyond even our comprehension in the "vein of control". 

Greetings
 
If you understood the thought process then you would not need to ask such a horrid question. I leave it to you to decide whether or not I would allow my leg to be removed.
 
I wish you well
 
melissa

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ORIGINAL: gypsygrl
The reason I don't talk about things like that is I've never met a D-type  who could refrain from poking around in sensitive areas after being told they were sensitive areas.  Alerting someone to potential trouble is like giving them an instruction manual.  I figure, there's no point in me showing them where they need to go if they want to see me come undone. 

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ORIGINAL: Celeste43

You start fooling around with my physical limitations and you'll be the one serving while I'm healing. You accidentally hit a hot emotional button and it takes a while plus a whole lot of work before I can go anywhere near that area. You deliberately hit those emotional buttons knowing what that does to me and you've just proved yourself to be a liar who does not care about my best interests.

I have one weird limit, duct tape gags. We were outside last week duct taping screens on top of windows to convince a robin with his nest nearby that his reflection in the window is not an intruder in his territory and he should stop pecking at the window every morning from 5:00AM onward. At some point when we finished the screening he duct taped my hands loosely together and then brought a piece of tape towards my mouth.

I knew he was joking and wouldn't do it. And yet I still got panicky and nearly screamed to get him to stop it. And it took three days before I could ask for reassurance that he would not have done it. Three days during which I was constantly backing off from him and near tears until I realized that this joking had really upset me. If he had done it for real, knowing how just the mention of it causes panic I would have a hard time learning to trust him again.

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ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

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ORIGINAL: gypsygrl
The reason I don't talk about things like that is I've never met a D-type  who could refrain from poking around in sensitive areas after being told they were sensitive areas.  Alerting someone to potential trouble is like giving them an instruction manual.  I figure, there's no point in me showing them where they need to go if they want to see me come undone. 

Haha! So true. For me at least. "What? You mean you don't like canes? And you're petrified of needles? And you'd never, ever, ever, let someone use a single tail on you?" This is where my brain goes into overdrive to figure out how I can get them to agree to let me just try it cause I KNOW they'll like it in the end if they just give it a chance. And if they don't, then I still win cause I get to see some true pain.

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Forgive me if I am misunderstanding what you are saying here. Are you saying that when someone expresses a limit it motivates you all the more to cross it? Nothing really to lose because if they end up actually liking it cool...and if they don't you got to satisfy a selfish need to see pain?

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"To learn the art of submission a slave must first give up the desires that drew him to submission in the first place." Mistress Jasmyn Jan 2005.

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ORIGINAL: puella

I would have to disagree with you.  Your limits can not be someone else's limits...that statement in and of itself does not make sense.  It is lovely and poetic and the right 'slaviest slave' comment, but it is not factual.

Somewhere, deep in all of us we have limits of our own.  If you are lucky enough that they are things which will never be touched upon by your partner or society... bravo.. then you never have to reach your limits. 

For others who have limits that are closer to reach... they are not less of anything for having them.. not less submissive by nature, not less of a a good slave or person... they just have more visible and accessable limits.

This limit thing is another way of putting people in a caste system.. a judging system and I often find that the 'slaves' are the ones who need it most... to feel that in fact, there is a way for them to be the 'slaviest slave'.  Not many will consciously recognize that, but once you have been there it is pretty obvious to notice in yourself and others.
i absolutely and totally 110% agree.  Beautifully stated...........slave luci

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ORIGINAL: SireKane
What a beautiful mind set. It's good to hear from a slave who truly understands servitude. Kane
i have to totally agree with bandit25 that daddysprop understands what servitude means to her and her master and that works for her.  This does not in anyway mean that other slaves and masters don't "truly understand servitude" just because they don't do things like she and her master do or like any other couple for that matter.  As offensive and distasteful as it seems to be to some, not every D/s or M/s relationship has to fit into the same neat, tidy mold. 
 
Through debate in these forums, it has become very obvious that daddysprop and i have very, very different relationships and concepts of what being a "good" or "proper" slave or master is.  This doesn't mean that either way is better - just simply very different.  i assure you that i "truly understand servitude" as it applies to serving my Master.  No, i don't do it like daddysprop says she does or like many others here say they do, but you know what?  i do it like MASTER wants and that's all that matters.  To try to emulate others' ways and thereby fail to meet His desires would be a real failing on my part..........slave luci