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stella40 -> RE: Sub/slave=child (6/3/2007 10:12:28 PM)
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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord
Heh. I'm sorry if you've taken offense, though you may have inadvertantly served as an example. Or, perhaps this was intentional?
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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord
Interestingly enough, many subs seem quite bratty. Many are vastly immature. (Many, but I'm not saying any particular sub who reads this is.. not trying to insult anyone, just an observation.)
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ORIGINAL: stella40
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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord
This is particularly exmplified in stronger versions of the D/s aspect, such as in the Gorgean end, where Masters discuss things among eachother, slaves are to act as a Master deems them to, more often than not bid to respect other Masters. Hell, there's a "girlie time" thread on that board last time I checked, and it's more than just a little popular.
Gorgean? Do you mean here Gorean? Or Georgian? That's quite interesting - Georgian BDSM - anyone else interested?
I typo'd "Gorean" as "Gorgean"- and you got this from it. Does this line not strike you as somewhat bratty? From this, I must if this was satirical?
In any case, yes, my post was about generalizations. I said "many".. not all. Many people in the US have HIV. That doesn't even mean 10% of the population. (Incidently, to anyone who may be reading this, infected with HIV, I mean no offense- I understand it's a horrid condition to have to suffer and my condolenses.)
And, of course, calling one's self a "Dom" doesn't make one more mature. Still, particularly, as I said, in the more extreme aspects of D/s, such as in M/s, dominant parties tend to take increasing responsibility for their submissives, until the point of (complete?) accountability at the Gorean bit. This said, one freely deciding to take on such responsibilities- and able to maintain them as becoming of one in such a trust- is liable to be a mature individual.
To use your anology, saying you're a witch doesn't make you magical. Real witches are (should there have been such a thing as a real witch or magic!). In the same way, you needn't be responsible to claim to be a dominant. Still, who's talking about posers (and what is with the communal obsession with such)? I'm talking about real dominants- just as, in your anology, I'd be talking about real witches.
On this note, would one such as yourself be willing to consider the advantages of a relationship containing a submissive, child-like partner?
While I try to reply to everyone who says something to me, this summer's grown very busy. I may be delayed and/or miss responses. To this end, if a more immediate response is desired, either for clarifation or interest, I would invite you to message me on the site, as I do check my email pretty regularly (which receives a nofication when I get a message on here), even if I don't have time for the actual site.
No I haven't taken offence, nor did I wish to cause you any, I was just curious as to why you thought like you did.
I generalise as well, sometimes much more than I think or am willing to admit to. Generalisation need not be an ill-formed opinion or a lack of knowledge, it may also be due to a strong opinion based on many experiences or information where many examples always have the same characteristics or arrive at the same conclusion.
Would I take on (as a Dom) a submissive child-like partner? Yes I would. Even if that submissive was 'immature' (which I think is the word a few people mean when they talk about being childlike). Child-like suggests naivety and openness, a willingness to trust, whereas immaturity suggests a lack of life experience, hardly life-threatening or profoundly anti-social traits.
I think almost all personality and character traits have two sides, positive and negative, depending on your own personal perspective. If a Dom is seen as reserved by someone he can also be seen as stiff by some one else, shrewd by someone else and boring by yet another person. This is why impulsive can be stupid to some people and spontaneous to others.
But to quote Shakespeare "There is nothing good or bad in this world, only thinking makes it so."
Edited to add: The Georgian BDSM was my attempt at making a joke, not necessarily at anyone's expense. Oh okay I might have been sending up Gorean BDSM, but surely being into Gor doesn't entail sacrificing a sense of humour, or does it? But apologies if any offence was caused, it certainly wasn't intended.
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