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Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 9:14:33 PM   
DominaSmartass


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Status: offline 		I have heard this from a couple of different sources and interested in opinion in light of some other threads (limits and such.)

"The number one rule of being my slave is that you protect my property. Because you are my most important property, you above all protect yourself. I will protect you from everything else in the world but you are responsible for protecting yourself from me."

Not my words, but I agree to some extent with them. Thoughts?

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 9:17:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Aye....i get it...and i think its worth thinking about.

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 9:24:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I think about it too hard it ties my brain in a knot...but the premise is understandable. I don't know that I'd call it the "Number 1 Rule of Slavery," but to each their own.

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 9:25:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've heard this relative to the term self-preservation, which is probably close enough to what you are referring.

The manner in which I have heard this is that an owner assumes all responsibility over the property 'except' for the nature of the slave's self-preservation.  As much as it seems as if an owner could/should be in touch with the slave's health, let's face it, the slave knows prior to the owner that something is wrong with them.

But self-preservation is also utilized to prevent from something going inordinately wrong with the relationship.  If the relationship goes sour, it is self-preservation, that single 'right' that the slave retains, that allows the slave to leave.

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 9:25:56 PM   
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Isn't it great how everything ties together?

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 9:53:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		It makes sence. It's true. I have to take care of me, so that a given parnter can protect me from the rest of the world. Taking care of me is a priority, if I am not healthy, mentally, physically, psychologically, etc, then I am not healthy an I am not proected, destruction, illness, etc starts from the inside.

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 9:56:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		i apologize as i do not get it.  The Master is supposed to take care of His property.  Why would He think you should protect yourself when your role is to please Him.  That almost sounds like the slave is supposed to know better than the Master.

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 10:03:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		This sort of 'rule' is just a declaration by the 'master' that he has no intention of protecting his slave. By buying into this scheme, the slave relieves the master of responsibility for anything he might do that she fails to prevent.  

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 10:05:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: minnetar

i apologize as i do not get it.  The Master is supposed to take care of His property.  Why would He think you should protect yourself when your role is to please Him.  That almost sounds like the slave is supposed to know better than the Master.

minnetar


True, the master/mistress is supposed to protect and care for his/her property...but...Say the slave/sun is hurting or sick...neglects to tell his/er mistress and master/mistress does something to increase the sickness or hurt unknowingly....
 
It is a responsibility to ones self to also protect and care for themself, and that means telling master/mistress about such things in order the master/mistress doesn't do something to add to any sickness or pain.

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 10:07:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Isn't that from "Slavecraft"...

That's a great rule and then the other great one...like #1B IMO would be OBEY


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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 10:07:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok...I just got cnfused over what I said...but I know what I meant....does anyone understand what I said or do I need to rewrite this?

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 10:11:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: charismagirrl

Isn't that from "Slavecraft"...

That's a great rule and then the other great one...like #1B IMO would be OBEY



Self-preservation is from 'Slavecraft'.  Yes.  Along with transparency and a couple of others (my book is packed, so I can't get to it).

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 10:11:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CitizenCane

This sort of 'rule' is just a declaration by the 'master' that he has no intention of protecting his slave. By buying into this scheme, the slave relieves the master of responsibility for anything he might do that she fails to prevent.  


I definitely don't see it this way. My view of the ideas fall much more along the lines of self preservation. In my opinion, even the most "true" slave has one right and that is to leave the relationship for any reason but especially if they feel they are in danger.

I can protect my hypothetical sub from everything else out there but I agree that he never gives up that final bit of autonomy to protect himself from me if I ever were to become abusive, neglectful, or seriously hurtful to him. I know only a couple of slaves who post here that would claim that they don't even have that right. I respect them for their very deep committment to their masters' will, no matter what, but I personally find it better to be with someone whom I know will stand up for himself against me if/when the time comes that he feels he needs to. It will probably never happen but I need to know that if I had a slave, that he would not allow me to break him to where he would compromise aspects of his core being to satisfy me. Make sense?

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 10:12:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		This one makes me smile. From Master I hear, "Take good care of your equipment and it'll take good care of you." That connection is clear when, in the morning when I'm leaving the house, he says, "Take good care of my equipment today - hear?"

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 10:12:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		An interesting thread since that is my book to read for this weekend. Now I'm even more eager to get into it.

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 10:13:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mstrjx

quote:

ORIGINAL: charismagirrl

Isn't that from "Slavecraft"...

That's a great rule and then the other great one...like #1B IMO would be OBEY



Self-preservation is from 'Slavecraft'.  Yes.  Along with transparency and a couple of others (my book is packed, so I can't get to it).

Jeff


Jeff,
i do not understand why self preservation would be needed.  The slave should tell her Master of what is going on and then He should protect His property.

minnetar

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 10:16:28 PM   
minnetar


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Status: offline 		lol now You have me thinking more about the statement - Is the Master merely trying to say to keep in mind His protection and beliefs as a slave goes throughout the day in order to protect what is His?

minnetar

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 10:17:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: charismagirrl

Isn't that from "Slavecraft"...

That's a great rule and then the other great one...like #1B IMO would be OBEY



Ok...another one of my 1001 stupid questions....What's Slavecraft?

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 10:19:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: minnetar

Jeff,
i do not understand why self preservation would be needed.  The slave should tell her Master of what is going on and then He should protect His property.

minnetar



Self-preservation really refers to two things.  Preserving of 'self' from something like sickness and/or disease, in which case you're right.  'Hey, You, Master, i'm sick.  Make sure you get me the right meds.' (which is also transparency, letting the owner know what the slave is thinking and feeling.

But the other part of self-preservation has to do with protecting the slave FROM the owner in case something goes wrong with the owner such that the slave's well-being is in danger from that person.  Fight or flight.

Not to demean, but do you expect a slave just to take the 'killing' that the owner thinks is the appropriate action?

Jeff

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RE: Number 1 Rule of Slavery - 5/25/2007 10:21:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HutchGarahl

quote:

ORIGINAL: charismagirrl

Isn't that from "Slavecraft"...

That's a great rule and then the other great one...like #1B IMO would be OBEY



Ok...another one of my 1001 stupid questions....What's Slavecraft?


A book.  Guy Baldwin, the author.  Between that book and 'The Compleat Slave', essential reading on the subject (and yes, 'compleat' is the correct spelling).

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