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ORIGINAL: ron2421

Boy, kind of surprised about these responses. But that's okay as I appreciate being informed.
Obviously, there must not be very many advocates around here in favor of  even more risky activities such as intercourse or oral sex in public places, which is enjoyed and advocated by even some vanilla couples.
(Who can forget that funny Woody Allen movie where the comedian cannot get over his sexual impotence until he discovers the thrill of having sexual intercourse in public places. Then we also had that Number One pop song where a woman sang about giving head to her boyfriend in a movie theater.
And then many here must also frown on public exhibitionism and flashing, which I also sensed were a bit more commonly accepted than what I'm reading here.
These type of activities, actual public sex and flashing, seem to face a much greater risk of being seen by children and elderly people, as well as a threat of arrest from indecent exposure, than the comparatively innoculous scene I've described.

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ORIGINAL: ron2421

Well, obviously then you would not be happy with laws in New York State parks where females are allowed to go completely topless, and from what I understand from trusted eyewitnesses frequently do, in full sight of families and children.

Even at a private party or bar if someone was upset enough upon witnessing a petting, shirt-raising incident, they could have the involved individuals arrested. I know of actual cases where a Dom was arrested for spanking his sub in their private home because the neighbors, yes children as well, heard the activity.
Some people are offended merely by seeing couples necking in public. The popular retort is GET A ROOM!
The reality few would care to accept is that many who would complain are hypocrites? possibly sexually frustrated? They have likely participated in the very same kinds of activities at some point in their lives, unless they grew up in a church.

Yes, there's obviously more when the the kinds of activities not involving actual nudity take place within a public place like a park.
Last I heard, some even vanilla couples enjoy that danger. It is the danger of being caught that makes it satisfying, even at the risk of children witnessing if they are not careful enough. Psychologists would attest to that fact.
It's human nature for some people. And who says human nature and the laws are always in perfect alignment.

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ORIGINAL: ron2421

For the 100th Time Sambamanslilgirl, there was absolutely no nudity involved, unless you consider brief exposure of panties and bra as nudity.

For everyone who has suddenly become so law conscious and legal.

Yes under some state obscenity laws, including New York, massaging over even a clothed genitals or a clothed female breast in public can be considered to be in violation of public obscenity laws.
But then again, so can most forms of sadomasochism, even in play, consensual and in private, including any form of restraint, bondage, spanking, whipping, any form of torture and etc.
Read for yourself:  http://www.moralityinmedia.org/nolc/index.htm?statutesIndex.htm
We should all do our best to keep this stuff out of site of children. But please do not be so obsessed over the legality of public petting situations when you're not willing to recognize the same laws over sadomasochism.

You would call the cops on this happy couple enjoying a bit of perverted fun in the park. Would you like it if your well-meaning friend called the cops on you because he or she knew that you participated in activities in which the laws clearly consider as sadomasochism and equally perverted.

This is Collarme, afterall. Thanks

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ORIGINAL: Invictus754

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
Well, that's the difference right there. If they're not your children, you don't get to decide what is appropriate for them. It's not your place to determine when it's okay to have that talk.

Yes, and that is the difference right there.  Once you walk outside, you don't control all the scenery.

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ORIGINAL: Invictus754

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Not all Muslim's believe in the burka actually.

Hence "devout Muslim"
 

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If I knew I was going to be around Muslim people (or any religious group for that matter), I would ensure that my cleavage was not exposed and that my skirt was at least knee-length, or just wear pants.
It's being courteous to others. It doesn't make you a prude. Just makes you... you know... courteous

And there folks, is the $64,000 answer - maybe the couple started OUT alone?  And then the others came along and maybe - just maybe - they are just like you and if they THOUGHT about it first they might not have done it.  But once in their own little area, off from the rest they didn't notice others had started to occupy nearby space.  The OP didn't say that they were calling attention to themselves.  If you didn't think you were going to be among Muslims, but then pulled up next to one on the street with your cleavage showing, what does he tell his kids in the back of his car?  Just because you didn't know they would be on your street you still can 'offend' someone and their way of life if they want to take offense.  I think everyone on the planet needs to chill about "no other way but my way should be tolerated."

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you keep mixing private and public.  I do all sorts of illegal things in the privacy of my own bedroom.  Where others who MIGHT be offended aren't watching or have the potential to watch.  Don't you get it??? we who are discussing with you are trying to make you see that publicly we should not infringe our beliefs on others when they don't want to be infringed upon.

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ORIGINAL: earthycouple
And this is the point just because you think you are alone or start off that way...doesn't mean it is fact or remains fact...so just don't do it.

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ORIGINAL: cjenny

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ORIGINAL: earthycouple
And this is the point just because you think you are alone or start off that way...doesn't mean it is fact or remains fact...so just don't do it.

This is what I just do notttttt get. He didn't do anything, he watched. Was he supposed to call the cops on them?
What is he supposed to 'just don't do'?
[&:]

edited to add blue face and last sentence.

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ORIGINAL: ron2421

Oh brother, slaverosebeauty.
Comparing actual naked sex in public to some petting over clothes?
Really? And then making the leaping assumption one can be arrested for failing to report such petting to the police?
To think of all the petting I happened across at perceived private areas of my high school and college campuses in the past. These young couples could have filled an entire police paddy wagon!

As for MagiksSlave (hopefully I got the spelling right this time), is it really relevant whether this was a dom and sub couple or just a straight vanilla couple?
Is it really fair to assume D/S people have better manners and more common sense than vanilla people?

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ORIGINAL: m0rgan

hold fast there madam, the lifestyle is under attack by those that say one thing while doing another, rest assured my comments about picking on gypsies, and doing nothing, is a first class example of what is going on at the moment! how those that wish to impose their will on others, usually for reasons they rarely accurately express in public, operate is to demonise one section of the area they wish to attack in the hope that the stoopid will allow them to lever their way in!
let those that are without sin cast the first stone, madam, there were no um's involved in ron's case, and there were none in any of the cases i have personally taken part in.  my comment stands as it is.  don't join in the hysteria just because it's there, or manufactured.

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People say we are under attack and maybe that is true, but the attack is only fed by people who do things like this (stripping in public). People have no repsect for those who have no respect for them.

^this is just arrant nonsense^

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: ron2421

Well, obviously then you would not be happy with laws in New York State parks where females are allowed to go completely topless, and from what I understand from trusted eyewitnesses frequently do, in full sight of families and children.

Actually no, I don't care. Why? Because people know that is that is the law and they are aware of what their children may be exposed to. It's self-serving kinksters who don't care that families are not expecting to encounter such things that I object to.

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Even at a private party or bar if someone was upset enough upon witnessing a petting, shirt-raising incident, they could have the involved individuals arrested. I know of actual cases where a Dom was arrested for spanking his sub in their private home because the neighbors, yes children as well, heard the activity.
Some people are offended merely by seeing couples necking in public. The popular retort is GET A ROOM!
The reality few would care to accept is that many who would complain are hypocrites? possibly sexually frustrated? They have likely participated in the very same kinds of activities at some point in their lives, unless they grew up in a church.

Yes, there's obviously more when the the kinds of activities not involving actual nudity take place within a public place like a park.
Last I heard, some even vanilla couples enjoy that danger. It is the danger of being caught that makes it satisfying, even at the risk of children witnessing if they are not careful enough. Psychologists would attest to that fact.
It's human nature for some people. And who says human nature and the laws are always in perfect alignment.

All the studies in the world do not take away from the fact that you are not the parent of those children, you do not get to decide what they should be exposed to and considering how many options kinksters have for expressing their kinks and how few options parents seem to have, this sort of behavior is simply selfish.

It was a national holiday. Nobody was working. In the middle of a public park. Their right to enjoy sex does not trumph the right of a parent to take their child to a park in the middle of the day and not have them exposed to sexual behavior.

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ORIGINAL: SlyStone


"Dear God I'm glad you are not my neighbor.... "



You were responding to someone else, but I have to say that based on that statement I feel the same about you, and the others here who think the described incident is such a terrible violation of innocence that they would call the police etc.  Perhaps it was bad taste and perhaps it was not the right time or place, but a reason to be arrested and have their lives possibly ruined? Are you kidding me?

I would suggest we worry about overexposure to TV, violence in the schools and in the homes and exposure to drugs and overt scenes and acts of violence and anger, rather than a random fondling and flash of underclothes. You cannot convince me that a UM witnessing the described scene would be harmed in any way, certainly no more so than seeing a sexy commercial flash on the TV screen.

This was not blow jobs in a public bathroom or public sex, or in any way a display of bdsm behavior. It was people being human, and it happens all the time with far less judgment than displayed on this thread.

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SardonicAss
Wow...there really are some prudish, close-minded people on here aren't there?