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TomWilson105 -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (5/31/2007 8:36:49 PM)
quote: I have myself had fun in the past partially undressing my girlfriends and wife in a similar way in a semi-private place such as a park. I always made sure they would not be easilly noticed, or at least not by people they knew. Besides, most of the time nothing beyond their underclothes would be exposed. Again, something about the humiliation for the sub makes this a total turn on for me as a Dom to either witness or actually practice. Dom here. I don't think it displays a lot of class, IMHO. Tom

DixieAngel -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (5/31/2007 8:39:56 PM)
(Qouting Earthycouple)You know, it sounds to me, like in the OP and now here, that you are just trying to get off on this and are hoping we will too.... WRONG [/quote] Exactly Earthy, this is the part that I didnt like. Not trying to censor anyone and I am far from a prude.

ron2421 -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (5/31/2007 8:45:58 PM)
earthycouple said: "Dear God I'm glad you are not my neighbor...." The feeling is mutual. I think you're just rude, prudish, insulting and close-minded towards anyone who thinks differently than you do. You should reserve posting again until you have learned some proper debating and people skills.

ron2421 -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (5/31/2007 8:53:16 PM)
(Qouting Earthycouple)You know, it sounds to me, like in the OP and now here, that you are just trying to get off on this and are hoping we will too.... WRONG [/quote] Exactly Earthy, this is the part that I didnt like. Not trying to censor anyone and I am far from a prude. Well, nobody forced you to read it. How should I have written it? Should I have sought out your authorization before posting it? If you cannot be openminded about this subject, then get off the thread. And also refer my earlier response on this.

DixieAngel -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (5/31/2007 8:58:47 PM)
Wow, you have a few others backing you and so now you think you have an excuse to tell others where they can and cant post huh? Who is the rude one now? I am so done with this thread, you are so not worth the energy.

ModeratorEleven -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (5/31/2007 9:00:41 PM)
Chill out, folks. XI

ron2421 -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (5/31/2007 9:07:38 PM)
Dom here. I don't think it displays a lot of class, IMHO. Tom Boy, that was a reasoned and considerate response. Obviously then, you have a problem with all the Doms and Subs who put "humiliation" (or possibly any public kink activities) down as an interest. I'm pretty much through posting here, though I'll read what any one else has to say. Hopefully I won't have to read any more attempted personal insults. As for my last few posts, I really could not hold back any longer. As my real first attempt at posting of a thread, I would be reluctant to do it again. Thanks.

SlyStone -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (5/31/2007 9:34:35 PM)
You should reserve posting again until you have learned some proper debating and people skills I think maybe you are getting a little carried away their Ron. She has every right to be posting to the thread and you have every right to disagree with her opinion. I want to add I don't think the scene you described was necessarily a bdsm one, even though your subject title suggests you believe otherwise. It is always interesting how people view the world based on their own perspective. There is nothing in the scene that suggests bdsm to me, and yet you project your "fantasy" into the scene and perhaps make it something different than it was, and I do see how this could have upset some people here, that a dominant would use a non-consentingly audience, and yes I would think less of one that did. In this case it is not the action, but rather the motivation, that would be cause for concern, for me that is. But no matter how your interpret it, as described it sounds pretty harmless to me, and I have enough trouble identifying my own motivation, let alone trying to figure out someone else's.

spanklette -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (5/31/2007 9:57:59 PM)
~FR~ So, at the ripe old age of 25, I was at the park with my Daddy...it was the 4th of July. Everyone was off of work, or the same people who would have been off for Memorial Day, and the UM's were out of school. This was a public park and there were plenty of UM's. A small UM 6 or 7ish shot off a bottle rocket (which is legal here) and went astray and violated my picnic blanket and started a fire, not to mention took at least 2 years off of my life. I was unable to consent to this act. It's simple...obviously, just arrest the UM's. We can keep them cloistered together and only feed them the information that we "feel" they can handle. When I was about the same age as the fire-cracker UM, my family went on an outing to the Audubon zoo. A monkey jerked off right in front of me. Wow! My best friend and I giggled and moved on. Not sure how to handle the monkey or what jurisdiction he would fall under.[;)] And, here's the kicker. Picture it. Bourbon St., New Orleans, LA. 2:00 am. I am dressed for success at any corner.[:D] My Master was holding the end of my leash which was attached to my collar. He pushes me up against the wall at Temptations. (For those of you who haven't had the pleasure of New Orleans, there is a naked silhouette in the window completing a number of erotic poses and pictures of the current strippers (nude) on the outside wall.) He's just dipped His head to put His lips to mine when I notice a woman walking with a stroller and an UM of about 10 clinging to her hand. Ruined our moment! In fact, it started a rather healthy debate about why a parent would bring their UM to that part of the city, especially at that time of night (or morning, if you prefer). So, the parent and UM actually ruined my night, not just the moment. So, I'm still going with my first instinct. Arrest the UM's. They've done way more damage to me (an adult) than I would ever wish on them. Although, in all fairness, I'm pretty sure the monkey was an adult. (I hope everyone can understand the sarcasm.) I don't find anything wrong with the amorous couple in the park. 'Course, I grew up in New Orleans. Before I was above the age of consent, I'd seen things that would curl your hair...well, at least some of you. (Can't be generalizing.) I'm hearing the same passive-aggressive mentality about sex that society has shoved down our throat for ages. Be educated but don't talk about it or watch it...shhhhhh! How in the hell are we supposed to educate UM's in a positive way that reflects our open communication, when our open communication is "See no evil. Hear no evil. Speak no evil." We, as a culture, have allowed disinformation to flood the minds of our UM's because we don't want to sully their virgin souls. Of course, this is all my opinion...exept for the anecdotes, they were all true, unfortunately. Soooo...ymmv.

ennaozzie -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (6/1/2007 3:28:42 AM)
I am not saying what you saw was bad, but others that do it will take it to different levels. One person made a comment they are not worried about pedo's around their kids more if they injure themselves on a swing, belive me i work for a org that gathers info on those such people and when my children where younger i watched them like a hawk, and since working for this org i have been made to realise how bad the situtaion is, and its real bad worse than you could ever imagine and i only see the tip of the iceburg so to speak. If we see people doing what you described who is to say that is only as far as it will go? That is all i am saying. I am far from objecting to people doing things to enhance their kink what ever it may be, but i think everyone needs to consider consideration of others is all i was saying.

peepeegirl5 -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (6/1/2007 4:09:37 AM)
Is it trashy to go nude ona first date ..?

WillowRain -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (6/1/2007 4:26:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: spanklette ~FR~ We, as a culture, have allowed disinformation to flood the minds of our UM's because we don't want to sully their virgin souls. First, I agree with you that the parent (not the kids, since they probably didn't actively choose to be with odd mom on the street) was imposing on you and placeing you in a bad situation. There isa time and a place for everything. If it's midnight on lovers lane and I drag my poor kid there then I am totally the one who is being a jerk and innapropriate. But... this line. Our culture does not treat kids like they have virgin souls. Look at the media and what it tells women of all ages. Look at fashion and how little itty bitty kids are marketed clothes that would better suit a hooker. There is a giigantic media tube that tells girls that all their worth revolves around how they look, and how attractive their bodies are. That sex is a comodity. Kids are bombarded with sex. Our culture is puritanical, but it is also sex obsessed, two sides to the same coin. We do not treat our kids like they are innoscent virgins, we treat them like they are sophisticated swingers or some other bs. I cut tv out of my house because the messages were so bad and they were starting to affect my daughters self image. Look at the adult women around you, how many of them are confident and sure in themselves and their bodies? Not enough, I say. Where the heck do you think that comes from? It's a crazy ideal, and a ridiculous thing to teach our girls. Propaganda is huge in our culture. "Be beautiful. Use your body not your mind. You can never be pretty enough. The only value a woman has is her beauty and her body." But.. this heads the thread into a whole other channel, that has nothing to do with a minor case of exhibition in the park. I guess threads are like that, they chagne and grow. There is some fabulous stuff written out there on the topic and the affect and focus of media on the youth. We want them to grow up and buy, buy, buy, as soon as humanly possible, and the more they think that they don't have value, or that they don't match up to the beauty standards, the more crap they are told they have to buy. Beauty creams, diet pills, spray on scents.... endless... endless.. ick

MrrPete -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (6/1/2007 4:53:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling No law that prohibits public nudity in Vermont Who would want to be nude in VT? brrrrrr![:)]

AquaticSub -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (6/1/2007 7:54:09 AM)
Anyone calling me uptight and prudish just makes me laugh. I simply feel there is a time and place for all things and that the time and place for outside play is not the middle of a public park on Memorial day. Oh god, someone disagrees with the you! They must be a prude! Excuse me, I've got to go pack the travel toy box for the next play party. Kinda hoping this one will turn into an orgy again. [:D]

juliaoceania -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (6/1/2007 8:22:17 AM)
quote: I'm hearing the same passive-aggressive mentality about sex that society has shoved down our throat for ages. Be educated but don't talk about it or watch it...shhhhhh! How in the hell are we supposed to educate UM's in a positive way that reflects our open communication, when our open communication is "See no evil. Hear no evil. Speak no evil." We, as a culture, have allowed disinformation to flood the minds of our UM's because we don't want to sully their virgin souls. As a mother I have more than once taken my UM to R rated movies that included sexuality... the type of sexuality I thought it appropriate for him to be exposed to. I am far from running and hiding my UM from sex and we talk about those things and joke about them pretty openly. What I do not like is that others take it upon themselves to decide what behavior is acceptable for my son to witness as in foreplay in public, or overt displays of sexuality in a public place designed to titilate as in rubbing erogenous zones. It is the same as someone who is rude in any other way... cursing in public loudly, cutting in line at the store, or flipping people off... it is rude behavior, should not be modeled to UMs in my opinion at a place that is designed for them. I guess you think people should be able to kneel down and shit in the street too? I mean it is a natural function, why not? In fact they do in India, why not here? We have many normative ways of behaving in society. All societies have them. I will remember one instance that happened in front of my UM. He was 4, we were at a resort swimming pool at where I worked. Another coworker was there so I paused with my son to converse with her. This man was there with her, broad daylight, and he asked her if she needed lotion.. and she said as he rubbed it on her.... "Oh yes baby, there, oh yes, you are making me SOOOO horny!" All breathless like they were going to have sex right there, and he rubbed her breast at that point. I thought this so disrespectful that I turned on my heel and immediately left. I did not report it, but I thought she was trash after that for acting that way in front of a 4 year old.

OsideGirl -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (6/1/2007 8:45:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub I simply feel there is a time and place for all things and that the time and place for outside play is not the middle of a public park on Memorial day. Exactly!

proudsub -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (6/1/2007 9:02:52 AM)
quote: I want to add I don't think the scene you described was necessarily a bdsm one That's why i asked him early on why he assumed this was a sub. I agree with you slystone.[:)]

swtnsparkling -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (6/1/2007 9:52:14 AM)
quote: juliaoceania I guess you think people should be able to kneel down and shit in the street too? I mean it is a natural function, why not? Oh looks like your a bit riled up blowing the post way out of proportion,overly exaggeratingIt is quite funny considering There Were NO UM's around - Her pants were not off, her tits were not exposed did any of you naysayers Read that ? And I still say anyone of you who say you have Never done anything even remotley like this is fibbing btw don't bother with the "your not riled up", "couldn't care less what people think" because that Ridiculous " kneel down and shit in the street" comment shows you are Have a great day

mnottertail -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (6/1/2007 9:54:25 AM)
quote: I guess you think people should be able to kneel down and shit in the street too? I mean it is a natural function, why not? Ummmmmmmmm---- they don't? (uh oh---gotta make a phone call) Ron

swtnsparkling -> RE: Public undressing of sub females (6/1/2007 9:55:45 AM)
quote: quote:ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling No law that prohibits public nudity in Vermont quote: MrrPete Who would want to be nude in VT? brrrrrr![:)] Maybe that is why they don't bother with a law it is to cold for anyone to actualy do it lol

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