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Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/2/2007 6:14:31 PM   
mystiquenz


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Why?

Why do people talk to others on these boards, with the sole intention of "mindfucking"?

How many others, have utilised poor judgement, bad intution, and suffered as a result? 

The dominant this girl spoke to Him for many months.  He pulled the computer plug, not so much as a thank you, well wishes, nor thank you but no thank you.  Why do they do that?  This girl could understand if he was half a universe away, and if that were so, she would have taken precautions with her space and her heart, and probably would not have entered into that sacred realm. 

she is having difficulty with picking up the fragments.  buckets of tears have fallen, and why?  a vision that she thought was shared, was pretty one sided. 

slips into the shadows, licking her wounds, wondering when she will bloody well learn!

looks for the positiveness of the time spent together, and it was pretty damned good, the disheartening thing is that real time, simple escaped U/us.  she ventured with him, because the pull was great, same country, the possibility of reality, and then ... *poof* ....

she thought she was dealing with the separation until, he removed his profile, and a bucket of tears overpoured.  Do dominants ever cry over what they considered might have been, or is this just a woman going through stages of grief, for a lost vision? 




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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/2/2007 6:21:08 PM   
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That is not mindfucking in the best sense, it is heartbreaking for men as well when shit goes casters up.  if this is the same one you quoted on your profile, that is a quote from the Gor series by John Norman.  

Lotsa ups and downs, you are young and will get over it, hopefully something good was learned.

Buck up and show 'em your ass, mate!!!!!!

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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/2/2007 6:44:51 PM   
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It can be very difficult when we think we are moving in a positive direction only to find out that we are mistaken.  Having said that however...

While it is natural to grieve over failed hopes, try to be glad in the fact that you never did actually meet.  Can you imagine how much worse this might have been had you given your heart to a person in the flesh as opposed to just the vision of one?

As with all things, your pain will pass in time and you will move on.  Try to believe that things don't work out for a reason. 

Good luck!

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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/2/2007 6:52:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mystiquenz

Why?

Why do people talk to others on these boards, with the sole intention of "mindfucking"?


What may appear to be mindfucking, could be mindfucking or it could also be something else.  Not having the "why" answered it what can sometimes make moving past it hard.

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How many others, have utilised poor judgement, bad intution, and suffered as a result?


Probably at some point or another everyone has made a poor decision or two and ended up disappointed or suffering as the result.  Don't beat yourself up over that. The only way to learn is to gain experiences like these.  The next time you may be able to better spot this "type" than you were before.


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The dominant this girl spoke to Him for many months.  He pulled the computer plug, not so much as a thank you, well wishes, nor thank you but no thank you.  Why do they do that?  This girl could understand if he was half a universe away, and if that were so, she would have taken precautions with her space and her heart, and probably would not have entered into that sacred realm. 

she is having difficulty with picking up the fragments.  buckets of tears have fallen, and why?  a vision that she thought was shared, was pretty one sided. 


You had a particular perception of this man based upon what he presented himself to be and how he interacted with you.  It would seem that he is not the person that he portrayed.  There could be a million and one different reasons as to why he would do that and why he would disappear without even giving you some level of closure.  Whatever that reason was for him, you have to remember that it's about him.  It is not your dysfunction.

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looks for the positiveness of the time spent together, and it was pretty damned good, the disheartening thing is that real time, simple escaped U/us.  she ventured with him, because the pull was great, same country, the possibility of reality, and then ... *poof* ....

she thought she was dealing with the separation until, he removed his profile, and a bucket of tears overpoured.  Do dominants ever cry over what they considered might have been, or is this just a woman going through stages of grief, for a lost vision? 



You're not only dealing with the disappointment of heartbreak, you're also dealing with having been mislead and then having no closure and no answers.  Thats a very tough thing to be going through.  You are now sitting here wondering who the hell you just poured your heart and soul out to, who he really was, what he really wanted, why he said those things if he didn't mean them,  etc etc. That's the part that makes it hard. 

You will probably hash it and re hash it in your head from every possible angle.  You'll question it, you'll wonder, you'll cry, you'll take it to sleep with you for a while and will probably wake up still wondering about it.  And you still won't know the "why" with any certainy. He may not know himself. 

But the good news is as each day passes it will get easier and easier, and whats going to happen is your perception of him will gradually shift until you see him for what he is (someone who led you on, fucked with you, then left without a trace) rather than what you thought he was (the Dominant of your dreams).  It takes time for the eyes to re-adjust to the light, but it really does happen.  And faster than you may think.   Start talking to other dominants. Eventually the only thing he'll be to you was practice.  

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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/2/2007 6:53:10 PM   
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You are grieving for what was your idea of him, not truly him at all..Once you get your mind and heart wrapped around this concept you will feel better..And it will of definitely given you some idea of what you do seek, and taught you what to avoid all in one shot...I wish you well..Tempting

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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/2/2007 7:10:33 PM   
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greetings Master Ron,

indeed it is a quote from one of John Norman's books.  It speaks volumes.

thinks it is going to be a slow process, but not one that cannot be overcome.  thank you for your kind words.  bucks her ass up and tries to give Him a smile.

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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/2/2007 7:21:05 PM   
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LafayetteLady,
indeed, face to face meetings when they are not successful can hurt.  however at least you get closure that way.
with online, when One pulls the plug, there is not closure.  thank you for your post.

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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/2/2007 7:25:55 PM   
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Which is why online sucks

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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/2/2007 7:30:34 PM   
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greetings Master Michael,

quote:

  Which is why online sucks


It sure does!


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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/2/2007 9:17:29 PM   
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 Sometimes people make decisions about thier own lives that just don't include me. Yes it can be tough, even tougher when those decisions suddenly excluded me. When we include each other into our lives, it certainly lends itself to be on a mutual basis, though exclusion need not be mutual. For myself, I focus on what part I played, and move on from there.

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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/2/2007 10:27:20 PM   
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Greetings A/all,
This girl would like to thank all for their contribution.
Reality speaks louder than words, and how blind this girl was to the red flags.

mystique appreciates the pearls of wisdoms that have been shared.  She re-iterates Simply Michael's post "online sucks" and really that is the "A" all and "B" all of online. 


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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/3/2007 4:36:14 AM   
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Online sucks is a great response! So drop the online and move into the world of real time maybe then you'll find a true Dominant and not some internet nutcase.

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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/3/2007 5:34:11 AM   
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greetings mchelleryder,

apart from attending local gatherings, munches and play parties in the physical, online just happens to be one medium where you are able to meet others who have a similar intersts. 

apologies for not making herself clear in the original post.   

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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/3/2007 7:39:31 AM   
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Hi,

I'm sorry you are hurting, been there. I have some advice and you really need to take it. Not just pay it lip service but put it into practice.

Do not invest in people until you meet, meet multiple times and have spent time outside of bed getting to know them.

Stop indulging in online fantasy talk. Pony up to meet and expect the same from any man. It won't guarante it will work out but it beats the snot out of crying over some guy you never met. Your feelings are real and I'm not implying that they are not, better to invest them in a flesh and blood person vs a screen name. Take care of yourself.

You can control that, you can control whether you get emotionally invested in a screen name or not.


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ORIGINAL: mystiquenz

greetings mchelleryder,

apart from attending local gatherings, munches and play parties in the physical, online just happens to be one medium where you are able to meet others who have a similar intersts. 

apologies for not making herself clear in the original post.   


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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/3/2007 7:49:04 AM   
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I have had people flake on me in real life, being online only makes being a flake easier for those who are flakes. I mean deep in person relationships that I invested myself in.. I am talking about relationships that lasted more than three years being ended in a flaky sorta way.

Here is the deal, some people do not know how to end relationships. They do not know how to step up and be a man (woman) about it. They lack balls. It is just the facts. Now I used to ask myself this "why" question about such individuals.. but I do not anymore. I do not care what their malfunction is, because it says a lot about their character and nothing about the person that they are hurting. They have to live with the fact that they lack the courage to face things and that they run from stuff like little babies.

I have had to break it off a time or two myself. It was hard, but I did it. I can only guess that the reason people do what this person did is that is seemed "easier" to them. In reality we do not owe anything to anyone else, he did not owe you  a goodbye, kiss my ass, or fuck off  speech. It would have shown character, it would have shown some humanity, but he did not owe it to you. You decide how to feel about his actions. You are responsible for all that you feel... I do not mean that in a harsh way, it is actually an empowering statement. He is not the one feeling badly, you are. He is not the one suffering, you are. If we accept that we are completely responsible for our own emotions, that we decide how we are going to feel about something, and that others should be free to be who they want to be... independent of their relationships with us... then we will have less assholes show up in our lives.... just my experience.

Edited because I misunderstood the OP because it was written in third person ... sorry

< Message edited by juliaoceania -- 6/3/2007 7:55:39 AM >


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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/3/2007 7:56:19 AM   
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Expecting some sort of closure from a person who flaked out on-line is setting the bar very high.  Find your own closure and move on.  I've had doms I've emailed to "flake" on me.  I didn't give it much thought beyond the fact that they are probably immature boys, or otherwise engaged in relationships, or perhaps talking to another sub whom they found more interesting.  The fact that they poofed was all the closure I needed to know that they weren't someone I'd want in my life anyway.

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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/3/2007 7:59:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mystiquenz
The dominant this girl spoke to Him for many months.  He pulled the computer plug, not so much as a thank you, well wishes, nor thank you but no thank you.  Why do they do that?  This girl could understand if he was half a universe away, and if that were so, she would have taken precautions with her space and her heart, and probably would not have entered into that sacred realm. 

looks for the positiveness of the time spent together, and it was pretty damned good, the disheartening thing is that real time, simple escaped U/us.  she ventured with him, because the pull was great, same country, the possibility of reality, and then ... *poof* ....

she thought she was dealing with the separation until, he removed his profile, and a bucket of tears overpoured.  Do dominants ever cry over what they considered might have been, or is this just a woman going through stages of grief, for a lost vision? 


This does happen often it seems, no prejudice for gender or role.  Yes. some of us Dom/Domme most
certainly do grieve and shed tears for what seemed to be so good then suddenly is gone without closure.

I just got hung up for the 2nd time by the same girl, we've never met, she is 2 hours away and married and
wants a new life, but can't make up her mind from 1 week to the next, so I get the hot/cold treatment as
she roams in and out of reality.  Of course, her profile stated single and looking, only after talking did I find
out what the situation actually is. We've been talking off and on for 2 months, with no plan in sight.
How can you take this seriously........??

I don't usually pursue someone married or in a  relationship because of this
and the fact they should be honest with their current partner and end it, then look for someone else.

So online for some people is just an avenue to check out their feelings at the costs of somebody's elses feelings.


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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/3/2007 8:05:12 AM   
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Tempting, well spoken...and oh so true. The mind tends to create far more content than is often actually present. As others have also spoken...learn something , anything from this. You have already learned you can develop deep feelings for another. That in and of itself is a powerful event.
I wish you well.

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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/3/2007 8:11:22 AM   
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I am sorry that happened to you, my advice is take it slower next time.
Don't get too serious, until you start meeting face to face.

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RE: Just asks the question but doesn't expect any answers - 6/3/2007 8:14:20 AM   
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I can relate.. I am just now talking to a Dom who has me scared outta my mind.  He only lives 20 or so miles away, but keeps blowing off meeting in person.  I have a good feeling about him, but this one little thing is a big red flag to me.  I have pretty much (as subbly as I could) let him know that for me to keep up the daring darling dialouge I need to meet him.  It is for the very reason you talk about, I know I am just falling in lust with the idea of him rather than the real person, and I know how very dangerous that is.  Expectations can be a killer early on if they get outta hand. No real person no matter how fitting or how wonderful can live up to anyones fantasy ideal.  It just isn't possible.
As yukkie as it feels, the previous responders are so right when they say, you have really lost nothing but a hope.  The hope that he would be what you imagined him to be.  He clearly isn't that, unless you imagined a Dom who would drop you without a thought.   

It still hurts though.  That i know from experience. 
*hugs*
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