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ORIGINAL: Constrictor1

SirMGD,
I am not being snarky or accusatory. I do ask why you don't show a mastery of yourself and quit a deadly habit that not only threatens your health but also apparently is threatening the relationship?  Discipline should not just be for the s types.

Constrictor1

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ORIGINAL: SirMGD

pasted below is an email i wrote to a sub friend, who takes quite a hard stance against smoking. I am trying to quit, but haven't yet, and after some heated back and forth, during which she made it clear that "NO ONE smoked in her house", I had these thoughts, and now ask the same of you all, wondering I suppose, where the line is drawn, in a truly D/s household?;

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actually R----, what I'm getting at, and something i invariably inspire;
acceptance, tolerance, and unconditional surrender.

one would think, that a submissive, more especially a SLAVE, like you, and so many others, would cultivate such traits, knowing she must, sooner or later.
What would you do if your master, who you'd been collared to for years, and whom you adored and loved, decided to start smoking? Would you dump him? ask to be released? Try to stop him? How would you exert your will? What if it were his house, or even better, you were married, so it belonged to you both legally?

I use smoking as an example, because you have such a hard stance on it. Nobody smokes in our house huh?..."even you my Master"...lol.

Such rigidity has no place in a truly submissive mind or heart. You might say that a sub has to be that way beforehand, to avoid situations, once surrendered, which she couldn't tolerate. Perhaps, but since most of the available subs I meet seem to have a multitude of similar rigidities, I often wonder if that isn't precisely why they remain available.

Sorry R----, subbies mustn't be ball-busters. Or ever plan to be.
If I ever did smoke in your house, it would be only because I knew you wanted me to, because you'd accepted me, unconditionally. because i'd made you so happy, you wanted to do something, anything, to make me feel comfortable, and I'd know you didn't mind, because you said you didn't.

I know you are incredulous at such a postulation, but it has happened to me before. I'm serious. I think what you fail to see is that a man, me, or any man, could ever make you that happy. So happy you didn't care what his kisses smelled like, or his semen tasted like. They'd be trivialities, and hugely overshadowed by any possibility of the alternative~ not having him.

just some things to ponder dear.
Your friend

thoughts?

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ORIGINAL: Owner4SexSlave

What's that song again... "Why do you drink, Why do you smoke..."

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ORIGINAL: hereyesruponyou

While the sub/slave should not make rules for her Master.... Is it not also true that it is the Master's obligation to care for her as well as himself so he can be there for her? I would think you would want to protect her from your nasty habit....this habit that controls you...who is the real Dom here?

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ORIGINAL: TemptingNviceSub

Ok,I cannot resist rocking the boat a little bit more.And hence I apologise ahead of time to any that this will offend..While as I have stated, I fully understand such a line in the sand being drawn by many that have medical issues or UM's with issues.  I find it truly amazing that some of these submissives have so many respiratory issues, that actual life and death is a factor, and yet have never smoked in their lives whilst the smokers seem not to have any such issues.I have noticed in the past 10-15 years that with the advent of demonizing smokers, many people use the excuse of it will cause me to end up in the hospital with an asthma attack, or I am allergic to the smell of smoke.It has become popular to segregate smokers, and to look down upon them with a superior sniff.But I have to question as to why so many people who do not smoke suffer so with asthma and that the children are now increasing two fold with having respiratory issues. To look at that big picture would create in many a discomfort, for then they know it would force them to realize that they too are responsible and may have to give up some creature comfort, and god forbid that happens!..Look to the air people,the pollution created by big business,yeah the same ones that manufacture goods that you have in your homes, the pollution created by your own cars, lawnmowers,motorcycles, boats..look to these as well and say..I will give these up and make them a hard limit of life because it further aggravates my um's asthma...Look to the bigger picture, and look in your mirror when you feel tempted to look down upon the smoker and sniff in superiority...Tempting

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I also have a "no addict" rule.

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ORIGINAL: softness

If Sir wanted to smoke in my house then that is exactly what would happen. It is His choice, I am His property, He decides what is right for me.

I posted previously that I would not be obedient to His decision if it conflicted with my relgious beliefs. I now see that this was wrong. Sir has informed me that it is just plain prideful to believe my own religious beliefs are more valuable than His wishes about my reproduction. He is right of course, if He instructed me to have an abortion because to have the baby would destroy the relationship, then of course He is right and I would follow His wishes. I amde the infomed consensual decision to have Sir control every aspect of my life, and that includes my reproduction and how I judge the health and wellbeing of the relationship.

I apologise for posting incorrectly before.

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ORIGINAL: orfunboi

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ORIGINAL: softness

 

Your profile says your in the UK and at the top and bottom says your taken. In the middle it describes the man you are looking for?

Also your masters profile says he is in CA....do you live together?

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ORIGINAL: Usako

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ORIGINAL: softness

If Sir wanted to smoke in my house then that is exactly what would happen. It is His choice, I am His property, He decides what is right for me.

I posted previously that I would not be obedient to His decision if it conflicted with my relgious beliefs. I now see that this was wrong. Sir has informed me that it is just plain prideful to believe my own religious beliefs are more valuable than His wishes about my reproduction. He is right of course, if He instructed me to have an abortion because to have the baby would destroy the relationship, then of course He is right and I would follow His wishes. I amde the infomed consensual decision to have Sir control every aspect of my life, and that includes my reproduction and how I judge the health and wellbeing of the relationship.

That has to be the sadest thing I've ever seen...he might as well control your very soul and personality, geez. Ignoring your own religious beliefs and health concerns for some man...I don't get it. I don't see how it's "prideful" to believe in something and put whatever faith or god you have before some dude who bangs you.

I'm not religious at all but I don't fault people who are. I also wouldn't want to get into a relationship with someone where my non-religion conflicts with their beliefs because that's just unfair. Same goes for smoking, I wouldn't ever get with a smoker and if the person I was with became a smoker then they'd either have to stop or get the hell out of my life.

I'm not about to be a doormat and let someone walk over me and clash with my values. Smoking is a big no-no and no man (or woman) is worth bending what I believe to be true. Especially if it comes to my health, only a doctor can tell me what's best when it comes to that.