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Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:00:35 PM

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If you have NO experience, why would you claim to have vast amounts...and more importantly, why would you give advice? Don't people realize that what they say can have a great impact on others? Don't they also realize that no matter how many chat rooms they have been in or no matter how many books they have read....the truth usually reveals itself in the end. This really is a pretty small community when you get right down to it.

Ugh!

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:07:09 PM

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But a person can get a lot of pussy/cock before they get to "that end."

And really, experience in what? We know that age doesn't equal experience. We know that life in the scene doesn't deal with any issues a person leads outside of the scene.

So, unless you're talking a particular kink/skill, pretty much everyone is valid to start throwing in their posts to the ring. It's up to the person to judge the value of such advice.

There really always is a flood of newbies to dazzle if a person really insists on that path.

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:12:15 PM

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Domiguy struts out wearing his "mentor" ballcap......And a tshirt that reads..."Will mentor for pussy."

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:14:09 PM

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Of course you're right LA...but that doesn't mean I can't still be disgusted by it...especially when it's someone who has the audacity to consistently discount and argue the good solid advice given by people who have actually been around the block a time or two. Yeah I know....that and 50 cents will get me a phone call.

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:15:02 PM

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I think this, its something that makes me giggle, when in brackets next to something on this site it has expert, how can you be an expert in collars? do a phd thesis on one? it makes me giggle. Problem is what qualifies you to give advice?

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:15:45 PM

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From my numerous years on the bench of the Supreme Court, I can tell you that people often claim experience to make their ideas heard with more weight. This may be because they wish to appear prestigeous, or because they want their ideas to be followed. Perhaps they want you to not cheat, as they find cheating to be a disgusting thing. Perhaps they truly believe themselves right?

Whatever the case, because I'm an experienced Justice, you should listen to exactly what I have to say about it.

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:17:24 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Of course you're right LA...but that doesn't mean I can't still be disgusted by it...especially when it's someone who has the audacity to consistently discount and argue the good solid advice given by people who have actually been around the block a time or two. Yeah I know....that and 50 cents will get me a phone call.

Some people like to use their big huge imaginery cock for a brain.

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:24:41 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin
Of course you're right LA...but that doesn't mean I can't still be disgusted by it...especially when it's someone who has the audacity to consistently discount and argue the good solid advice given by people who have actually been around the block a time or two. Yeah I know....that and 50 cents will get me a phone call.

But it makes the anticipation so nice. You can see "the end" way before they get there and it's a great time when they finally hang themselves.

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:24:51 PM

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Look, this is all about me and I'm the only twue anything here, so naturally I can offer expert guidance and advice on everything from the tying of arcane knots through to the use of an egg whisk to bring about multiple orgasm in a crowd of up to one hundred people.

True enough though Mist. I think its OK for everyone to have an opinion, but not all opinions are equally valid - which I'll likely be flamed for saying, but there we go. I'm expert at some things, because I have the experience, and I dont think it takes too long for us who are here regularly to identify who is expert on what and who isnt. LadyHugs springs immediately to mind - what that Lady doesnt know about belting someone expertly, isnt worth knowing I feel! The problem though I'd agree is for those coming here for information and advice who dont necessarily benefit from the experts in that field, because the experts arent here at that time, and leave with less than desirable guidance.

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:28:26 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Of course you're right LA...but that doesn't mean I can't still be disgusted by it...especially when it's someone who has the audacity to consistently discount and argue the good solid advice given by people who have actually been around the block a time or two. Yeah I know....that and 50 cents will get me a phone call.

This is why I give less and less advice these days. People who I don't know from anyone else feel it is necessary to deconstruct advice I give, even though it almost always comes from direct experience, and my goal is to help the person asking the question, not have myself seen as knowing all. Yet there are those that CONSTANTLY feel they have to deconstruct everyone else and pretend to know it all.

So, I give less advice. Less hassle that way. I remember saying something similar to this awhile back and one of those "know it alls" responded with "good riddance." So, it's really not worth it.

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:30:32 PM

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For some people its an ego thing, for others its a game. We all see trolls on the boards who ask a question or make an off-hand comment then disapear, its a game to them.

Some peopel have experience and knowledge to back up what they says, others are fakes and just make it up as they go. They [fakes/wannabes/trolls] don't care if someone gets hurt, its not 'their issue' or problem in that insane and unstable way of thinking.

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:33:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin
Of course you're right LA...but that doesn't mean I can't still be disgusted by it...especially when it's someone who has the audacity to consistently discount and argue the good solid advice given by people who have actually been around the block a time or two. Yeah I know....that and 50 cents will get me a phone call.

But it makes the anticipation so nice. You can see "the end" way before they get there and it's a great time when they finally hang themselves.

Its even more fun when they have the noose around their necks and are too caught up in their own arrogance to see it.

Personally, I am one of those less experienced people, being in one relationship and workin on my second, and with quite a lot of lessons from people who have an assload of experience and reputation. (If I ever make a claim to "X number of years in the lifestlye", shoot me in the head for becomming a part to that bullshit.")

If your solely looking at my posts for advice or insight, then you are an idiot.

There is plenty of other people who know more and when I contribute to a discussion, I am mostly looking to have what I said challenged and told differently..if it is in fact wrong.

However, I only really pay attention to people who's advice I come to trust when it comes to being told I am wrong.

And, of course, if you have clearly no idea what you are talking about, then you will probably receive my contempt.

< Message edited by MadRabbit -- 6/6/2007 3:34:29 PM >

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:33:16 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

If you have NO experience, why would you claim to have vast amounts...and more importantly, why would you give advice? Don't people realize that what they say can have a great impact on others? Don't they also realize that no matter how many chat rooms they have been in or no matter how many books they have read....the truth usually reveals itself in the end. This really is a pretty small community when you get right down to it.

Ugh!

I am actually going to say that what you have said here is the best piece of advice I have seen yet. I, personally, have no experience, neither does my boyfriend. We have gone to a couple munches, some clubs, etc, lurked around some websites...all with the intention of trying to discover whether or not we want to go forward and take the next step in our curiosity. I will be honest; in the past two years that we have been talking with others; it has left a bad taste in my mouth trying to decipher what is good advice and what is bad.

/shakes head

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:35:22 PM

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You just hope that you have enough common sense to avoid the fakes, wannabe trolls....But then again someone's fake might be another person's mentor...Guess it all comes down to the ability to use sound judgement.

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:38:24 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

From my numerous years on the bench of the Supreme Court, I can tell you that people often claim experience to make their ideas heard with more weight. This may be because they wish to appear prestigeous, or because they want their ideas to be followed. Perhaps they want you to not cheat, as they find cheating to be a disgusting thing. Perhaps they truly believe themselves right?

Whatever the case, because I'm an experienced Justice, you should listen to exactly what I have to say about it.

I'm sure after a long day on the bench, you all probably hit the showers at the same time.....Did you ever get a chance to check out Scalia's cock? I heard it was the size of a thimble.

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:39:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
But then again someone's fake might be another person's mentor...

Amazing that you would say that....are you reading my mind or do you have a tap on my phone????....lol.

Regardless....those who claim to be "mentors" just dropped another big notch in my eyes....and they can't get much lower.

< Message edited by mistoferin -- 6/6/2007 3:41:07 PM >

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:40:47 PM

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I'm in your attic....The tin foil you are wearing around your head is not doing a sufficient enough job to block my Domivision.

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:42:23 PM

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I admit that I am hardly experienced, and would never claim more experience than I have. For this reason, I am selective about what I will give advice on. The proper use of a flogger? Nope, don't know enough to "improve" another's techniques. But in the questions of relationship dynamics, emotions, and situational help, I may be able to offer some advice. Not because I have years and years of experience, but because I am human, and can related to people. If a submissive woman writes a post about...oh say, her Dominant taking on another submissive or slave when she is strictly against poly...yes I can advise on that. I have never been in a poly relationship, but the simple advice would be: If you are being hurt by something, and don't like it...it would be better to remove yourself from the situation. Simple as that. Anyone could comment on something like that.
But I do see how it could get frusterating seeing posts by people who assume that they are knowledgeable on subjects when they have no experience with the topic...
Just my two cents,

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:43:51 PM

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These are the same people making dates to meet and not bothering to show up, and telling their on-line submissive to do stupid things like go to a bar alone dressed like a slut and give blow jobs in the men's room. It's not real for them, therefore they have no responsibility. And in their opinion, if someone gets hurt it's their fault for being so stupid as to take a "game" into real life. Some of them are quite practiced at it.

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RE: Claiming "experience" and giving advice - 6/6/2007 3:46:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: Rose4Mistress

But I do see how it could get frusterating seeing posts by people who assume that they are knowledgeable on subjects when they have no experience with the topic...
Just my two cents,

This is why SimplyMichael is such a valuable addition to the forums

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