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Level -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 5:45:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy When I evicted a person and spent $14,000 getting an unlawful detainer and a court writ to take back my property, the LA Sheriffs office refused (initially) to do their job and act on it. Just me, etc. Sinergy $14,000??? Holy shit, Sinergy, to do an eviction/writ of possession here runs about $150!

Sinergy -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 5:55:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy When I evicted a person and spent $14,000 getting an unlawful detainer and a court writ to take back my property, the LA Sheriffs office refused (initially) to do their job and act on it. Just me, etc. Sinergy $14,000??? Holy shit, Sinergy, to do an eviction/writ of possession here runs about $150! Initial filing, sure. To go the entire route to evict that clown involved dealing with about 9 different filings to the court as to why he should not be evicted. All of which slapped down by the Judge, and all of which required me to refile from the beginning. Eventually, I had a writ filed that this clown could file whatever the hell he wanted to, but it would no longer impact the court proceedings. Happily, when I evicted him from the south side of Los Angeles, the closest storage place I could find to put his stuff in until he went and paid the moving and storage costs (to get it back out) was in Needles, CA. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Sold the judgement against him to a collection agency. Let them deal with it. Sinergy

Level -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 6:06:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: Level quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy When I evicted a person and spent $14,000 getting an unlawful detainer and a court writ to take back my property, the LA Sheriffs office refused (initially) to do their job and act on it. Just me, etc. Sinergy $14,000??? Holy shit, Sinergy, to do an eviction/writ of possession here runs about $150! Initial filing, sure. To go the entire route to evict that clown involved dealing with about 9 different filings to the court as to why he should not be evicted. All of which slapped down by the Judge, and all of which required me to refile from the beginning. Eventually, I had a writ filed that this clown could file whatever the hell he wanted to, but it would no longer impact the court proceedings. Happily, when I evicted him from the south side of Los Angeles, the closest storage place I could find to put his stuff in until he went and paid the moving and storage costs (to get it back out) was in Needles, CA. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Sold the judgement against him to a collection agency. Let them deal with it. Sinergy Whew. I wonder if it'd cost anything like that here, even with appeals. Fortunately for most landlords filing at work, they don't see that much resistance, although we did have a Vietnamese gentleman dismiss a small claims suit yesterday, because all of his witnesses were afraid the defendant would kill them if they showed up for the hearing.

ayip -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 6:29:37 PM)
eerrrr.. ummm.. It appears we were agreeing. The point I had made was that overcrowding was a mote point in her release given the section she was being detained in. It was a reaction to a comment which in effect said overcrowding had played a role. Which.. in itself is a mote point considering the wording of the incarceration instructions signed by the sentencing judge. My point all along has been it's not about Paris Hilton being Paris Hilton, the media, jail overcrowding, anyone else's sentencing, early release or lack of, not about you or I or Jane Doe. It's about Lee Baca overstepping his boundries and going stuck on stupid. Or going stick it in my bank account. Yeah.. the one that won't show on the ledgers. It's about an incarceration order being sideswiped. As for Paris.. she played.. now she's paying. Suck up and dry the river of tears. Thorazine drip or not. Most don't like being jail. Their not supposed to.

FatDomDaddy -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 8:48:02 PM)
Most people here miss the point... She's only IN jail for 45 days (23 for good behavior) because she is Paris Hilton. probably 98% of the people who violated the same probabtion would get a weekend!

selfbnd411 -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 9:10:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy Most people here miss the point... She's only IN jail for 45 days (23 for good behavior) because she is Paris Hilton. probably 98% of the people who violated the same probabtion would get a weekend Judges take into account whether the convict has shown signs of repentance--voluntarily entering rehab, counseling, or surrendering one's license. She has shown none; in fact, she has shown a complete and utter disregard for the law. Therefore, she deserves no leniency.

FatDomDaddy -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 9:40:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: selfbnd411 Judges take into account whether the convict has shown signs of repentance--. self411... I tend to read read your posts as well thoughtout whether I agree or not. BUT>>> Ok... I need to be carfeful not to go and outmyself as I deal with this stuff on an almost daily basis but.... It is a nice theory. Here is the reality... Extended jail term are for people who pose a real threat to society. I am pretty sure the last three days showed Ms. Hilton that she never wants to be there again. The LA County jail has no room for her nor does keeping her there serve anything but a "GOTCHA" to the masses. As I have stared... because she thumbed her nose at the judicial system and more importantly, the rule of law, she deserved a punishment. Three days in LA County Jail is plenty to hit that point home. And in fact, I honestly believe, the judge would have been more than happy to save face and released her had that LA Sheriff not f-ed up the process. But make no mistake.... she is in jail for a 45 day sentence no as justice but as fodder for the masses. I honestly cannot believe I am saying this,,, But she is a political prisoner.

SilkFreudianSlip -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 10:23:41 PM)
Well, any media figure in such a situation would be a political prisoner but the bottom line is that she broke the law and rightly, should pay for it just like any Joe or Jane on the street would have to. I don't follow her scandals or any celebrity scandal really, but this caught my eye simply because of the flagrant disregard for the law and the so-called preferential treatment. Another thought that occurred to me earlier today before I heard the ruling, is that whatever happens to her at this point can be taken hard in either direction. If she gets out, you'll have people screaming preferential treatment. If she goes back, and I'm glad she did, then the opposite side will argue that the judge wanted his pound of celebrity flesh per se, making an example out of her and whatnot. Then again, since she's really not contributed much to the enrichment of society, it might be prudent for her to do her civic duty and become that example.

LadyPact -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 10:25:06 PM)
I heard the best term on the radio today about Paris Hilton. Celebritard.

selfbnd411 -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 10:31:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy I am pretty sure the last three days showed Ms. Hilton that she never wants to be there again. The LA County jail has no room for her nor does keeping her there serve anything but a "GOTCHA" to the masses. They have plenty of room for her--she was being held in segregated housing for celebrity inmates which was reportedly practically empty. Whether the sentence was too harsh is immaterial. Sentences are determined by judges, not by the Sheriff. The Sheriff has authority granted through a Federal consent decree to release inmates due to overcrowding and extreme medical conditions. Neither of those conditions apply here. If the sentence was too harsh, then her proper avenue was to appeal the sentence to an appelate court, not the Sheriff. The medical argument is a non-starter for me. Depression is not a deadly medical condition in this context. Every jail has facilities for severely depressed and suicidal prisoners. And I doubt if depression is an uncommon ailment amongst inmate populations. It doesn't appear that her "medical condition" has been substantiated by anyone beyond the experts she herself has paid for. Furthermore, while I'm not an expert on depression, I have to wonder if a person suffering from depression would react with a temper tantrum to a major setback as she did. The people I know who suffer/have suffered from depression tended to react with a sort of sad apathy demonstrating an alarming acceptance of misfortune.

worldbearer -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 10:33:46 PM)
Not that I care but I heard it on the radio, Peris is back in Jail. So get a life people, I meen GEEZ we all dont like her, so why are you spending your time talking about her??? (And yes I do realise I took the time to write this messege and that I too need to get a life.)

brightspot -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 10:59:31 PM)
[/quote] I honestly cannot believe I am saying this,,, But she is a political prisoner. [/quote] I agree this this statement, Paris got worse punishment than the average Jane, because of who she is and the Judge wanted to make a point with her celebrity, and she is paying the price more so than someone unknown in the same situation. Sherrif Lee Baca, had the right to make the decision he did and Paris is paying the price because the Judge got pissed because Baca made a decision that made him look bad by "overriding him" and not contacting him first, something he(Baca) probably does everyday. I am glad that at least now she is in a different jail and on the mental health unit, hopefully getting the help she needs after the stress of all this back and forth crap. I feel sorry for her and I hope she will be okay. I can't believe I read somewhere on this thread that someone wished that she might hang herself, thats was pretty mean to say. I really can't believe some of the viciousness of some comments. Geeze, she violated her probation for a misdemeaner, she didn't do a double homicide like O.J. Simpson and that creep has been running free. He hasn't even been made to pay a court ordered restitution after being found guilty of both homicides in the civil case. I think the 5 days she got credited for did teach her a lesson. And I think her being a celebrity is what she is really paying for now. I think putting her in the jail they did where she had to spend 23 hour cell time was messed up to begin with, she hadn't done armed robbery or murder. I for one have Never in my 48 years gotten behind the wheel of a car when I have consumed any alcohol, for fear of something bad might happen and I wish others would be as responsible, including Paris. She made mistakes but she didn't kill anyone, if she had then it would be different scenario. Since this is her first probation violation and outside of that she is a sweet girl who took fun and money a bit too far and didn't use her intelligence(I do think she is a very smart individual) and made a couple stupid moves. All young folk test their limits no matter what those limits are. I think the 5 days and the rest of the time on house arrest was totally reasonable. I'm hoping that after her weekend in this other jail her appeal will go through and the Sherrif decision will be up-held. Atty.Robert Shapiro, has pointed out that anyone else would have been booked and released within 3 days and made to serve the rest of the time on an ankle bracelet and/or community service. So, I guess, your wrong worldbearer I like her and I would be on the side yelling free Paris Hilton now![:D] Missy.

SubmissiveLinda -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/8/2007 11:07:35 PM)
Repeat offenders who have killed, have done much less time than Paris, and back in the bars drinking and driving. [8\|]

mistoferin -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/9/2007 3:28:22 AM)
Not sure why everyone is saying that "regular folks" would have gotten a lighter sentence. Maybe they do things differently in California? I know that my ex got stopped and taken to jail for drunk driving. Actually, the ticket was not for drunk driving but for impaired driving...but I'm not even sure they have that anymore. It was for lower blood alcohol readings. He was stopped on a Friday night and had to spend the weekend in jail until he could go before the judge on Monday. He was assigned community service and had to attend classes...which he did, and had his license suspended and was placed on probation. Well, two months later he was stopped on his way to work in the morning. The officer stopped him because a piece of equipment in the back of his truck had come loose and was in danger of falling out. When they saw his license was suspended they took him in front of the judge again. He was sentenced to 90 days for violating his probation (driving on a suspended) and served about 70 of those 90 (time off for good behavior). So yes, regular people do sometimes have to serve time for the same offense. Of note is that she violated her probation(drove on a suspended), not once but twice.

windchymes -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/9/2007 4:43:38 AM)
Just because OJ got off and others have supposedly only served a weekend or gotten off altogether doesn't make it right! Lately, there's been a whole rash of Hollywood celebrity DUI's (Gibson, Osment, Lohan) Maybe we finally have a judge who sees the trend and is cracking down so no one ends up getting killed! Because someone's going to one of these days. Maybe he IS making an example of Paris....you have to start somewhere. That twenty-six year old WOMAN needs to be taken down a few pegs. Maybe if we start locking up the high-profile celebs who seem to enjoy the publicity so much, and start making them serve out their sentences, it will be more of a deterrent.

BeingChewsie -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/9/2007 5:10:33 AM)
Yes, they often do things differently in the L.A.County jail because of overcrowding. quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin Not sure why everyone is saying that "regular folks" would have gotten a lighter sentence. Maybe they do things differently in California? I know that my ex got stopped and taken to jail for drunk driving. Actually, the ticket was not for drunk driving but for impaired driving...but I'm not even sure they have that anymore. It was for lower blood alcohol readings. He was stopped on a Friday night and had to spend the weekend in jail until he could go before the judge on Monday. He was assigned community service and had to attend classes...which he did, and had his license suspended and was placed on probation. Well, two months later he was stopped on his way to work in the morning. The officer stopped him because a piece of equipment in the back of his truck had come loose and was in danger of falling out. When they saw his license was suspended they took him in front of the judge again. He was sentenced to 90 days for violating his probation (driving on a suspended) and served about 70 of those 90 (time off for good behavior). So yes, regular people do sometimes have to serve time for the same offense. Of note is that she violated her probation(drove on a suspended), not once but twice.

mistoferin -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/9/2007 5:13:12 AM)
I don't think that Detroit has any less an overcrowding problem as LA. The time that my ex spent in jail was in a 6 man cell. There were never less than 8 guys in that cell. 4 days before he was released he finally got to sleep on a bunk...up until then he was on the floor.

Dauric -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/9/2007 5:50:22 AM)
4 days is not a "Normal" sentence, and 45 days (a month and a half) is also rather light. One of my former co-workers was looking at a year in jail for violating his suspended driver's license while intoxicated. $0.02, Dauric.

MistressDoMe -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/9/2007 7:02:38 AM)
The saga is certainly continuing with no end in sight.

Level -> RE: Paris Hilton Released After Just 3 Days in Jail (6/9/2007 7:07:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressDoMe The saga is certainly continuing with no end in sight. And one wonders of there isn't at least a little piece of Paris that enjoys that.

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