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Applications! - 6/12/2007 10:48:10 AM

MissyRane

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aight yet another thing I've been thinking about..for quite some time that I couldn't find when searching for it, perhaps LA's magical fingers can find some enlightening links

but anyhow let me get to the point.
There are so many dominants on here, not all but many, who want submissives/slaves to write an introduction letter with their first message, telling the dominant why they should consider them as their sub and what they have to offer and why they stick out from all the others etc.etc.etc.

EVERYBODY can make up that kind of a letter and sound like you know..a dream coming true or something like that but I mean..what do you say, I somehow can't imagine that these letter contain a lot of various..responses, I mean sure everybody has their own way of putting things but then I mean...these questions ..why should i be considered -what do i have to offer -why do i stick out
I don't really get their point, everybody can write a splendid report about themselves just to get the attention.
Why does it have to be in the form of a job application? It's not like they're as stable as a job application I mean you can false a CV but usually they're checked out as well as possible.
Slave..CV's..you simply can't do the same with them except by talking to the person directly.
I think it would give much better picture to just start chatting n just you know..small talk or whateva

I guess my real question..what do people gain from these kind of "applications"?

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 10:50:04 AM

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I wouldn't write a letter of application or petition for a dom. I might consider it if we both felt the relationship was progressing. But as an introduction, nope. For me, part of the fun is learning bits and pieces and seeing how they are delved out to each other. I enjoy the journey of getting to know someone.

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 10:52:50 AM

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They get to feel yummy- they get to have the authority dynamic already in place, or at least feel like it is.

They get to be reviews- subs and slaves LOVE rules and rituals. Being examined and evaluated, made to feel special like a ring taken out of a case to be chosen. Very delicious.

As with most things, the "application" idea isn't bad in and of itself. The problem comes when it creates a scenario where the sub feels they are completely passive and have no choice here- obviously they both have to choose eachother. And it can be a good way to keep the slave all focused on what they have to offer and not allow them to do the same of the dom and make an informed choice.

But, that is what those who get into this practice must choose for themselves- what works and what doesn't.

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 10:54:04 AM

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It's not a job interview.

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:00:54 AM

KatyLied

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quote:

It's not a job interview.

It's a blow job interview!

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:03:08 AM

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Cynic that I am, I think the introductory application is a form of posturing to say: "I am soooo popular that I'm going to make you jump through some hoops to gain my attention, and maybe if you're lucky I will select you." And of course, if a girl goes to that much trouble with nothing but the dom's profile to go on, then she is probably dumb enough that it should be a simple matter to reel her in.

Let me guess -- these applications are usually found for doms who were trained in the Old Guard ways of European houses, right? The more preposterous it is, the more likely it is to work!

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:04:30 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

Why does it have to be in the form of a job application? It's not like they're as stable as a job application I mean you can false a CV but usually they're checked out as well as possible.
Slave..CV's..you simply can't do the same with them except by talking to the person directly.
I think it would give much better picture to just start chatting n just you know..small talk or whateva

I guess my real question..what do people gain from these kind of "applications"?

It gives me several things.

First if a person after talking to me and getting my ok to filing out an application can't follow my instructions on how to do that, that's pretty much told me they may be a pain to train. Sorry, got enough pains in my life don't need to be adding more.

Second it helps a person think about what they have experience in all ready and what they can offer and what they expect. I learned the hard way that "just talking" can lead to all sorts of left out information and confused memories later on.

Third it communicates that I do take training very seriously. When I train, it is one of my jobs. The person who claims to be interested in me had best take it as seriously.

At least I hope I get and give these types of information in training applications.

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:10:46 AM

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Great Topic MissyRain,

Personally I've never used an "application" and don't see myself ever using one ever. Do people use applications like this in the Real Time or is more of a Cyberspace Trend?

I believe in exchanging a couple of emails, moving into chat, seeing how things go from there.

Applications for what? What is this? McDomnalds? PieceofSlut (Pizza hut)? I just don't get it.

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:14:47 AM

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Whiplash, I just splorted Pepsi all over my monitor!

McDomnalds was just too funny! All kinds of funny thoughts ran thru my head waaaay too fast!

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:17:43 AM

RCdc

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For some people, it is a fetish. Apllications, paperwork, words... these are something that some people draw from sexually.

For others it is posturing.

Sometimes it can help people glisten a sense of where a person is in life... after all writing must be important, else we wouldnt be writing and reading peoples thoughts here on CM.

If it works for someone, good for them.

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:27:50 AM

SirDominic

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Missy,
In all the years I have been involved in the lifestyle I have never asked for such a thing. To me, it takes away all the spontaneity out of the discovery game. You know. Learning who they are, letting them begin to know who you are. If you were to imagine sitting in a coffee shop across from someone new, laughing, sharing, enjoying the play of emotions across their face as they speak, feeling the energy of their presence, just having the best time, with me, that is too much fun to miss out on. That is how you really can find out if you want to consider them as your sub, and just as importantly, allow them to consider if they want you as their Dom!

As for what they have to offer, what can they possibly say in an application when they know nothing of what You want? Pure silliness. I know what I want and expect from a slave, and through our chats we will learn whether these are the same/similar things she wants.

There is one kind of occasion where I use something like this, but it is a simple question, not a drawn out questionnaire. Often I get cold emails from subs who would like to talk. They happen to like my style (bless their hearts) and would enjoy chatting about the lifestyle by email. It is very common to get emails like "You seem very interesting. Would you consider talking to me about the lifestyle?" When I get an email like that I do ask what draws them to the fetish world. Even then, it is not about me, but curiosity on my part about learning some about them.

Bottom line, I agree with several who have already suggested that it is just posturing to demand such a thing. Doms who feel the need to puff themselves up.

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:30:02 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

It's not a job interview.

It's a blow job interview!

ONE!!!!! That's right, ONE correct answer in this whole shitoree---
Katy, you are excused from the rest of the application.

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:31:02 AM

KatyLied

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YAY! I finally get something right in this crazy place!

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:32:22 AM

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Not just spotineity, but personal touch. I suppose I can see the appeal of applications as a form of role-play, but then I would be expected to accept or reject based on some emailed app. That seems silly to me (though "to each his own").

I have before, and likely will again, suggest a sub fill out one of those "what I'm interested in" pages.. like some of the other BDSM sites inclued in profiles ("rate from 1-5 your interest in ..."). It's been a useful way to get an overview of interest when the person I've been interacting with has had limited availabilty in person.

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:33:23 AM

MissyRane

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quote:

As with most things, the "application" idea isn't bad in and of itself. The problem comes when it creates a scenario where the sub feels they are completely passive and have no choice here- obviously they both have to choose eachother. And it can be a good way to keep the slave all focused on what they have to offer and not allow them to do the same of the dom and make an informed choice.

yeah but I just think those application forms demand such..similar responses.. so it kind of confuses me.

quote:

First if a person after talking to me and getting my ok to filing out an application can't follow my instructions on how to do that, that's pretty much told me they may be a pain to train. Sorry, got enough pains in my life don't need to be adding more.

Yes..but you do start the communication without telling them to fill out an application? ..since you say "a person gets your ok to filling out an application" That's more understandable..but what brings the real question mark up in me is when people don't want the "hi" first - they only want to jump straight to the "introduction letter"

lmfao pieceofslut did it for me hahaaaa dammit now I can neva go to pizzahut again with a straight face. Whiplash, look what you did!

Application fetish has got to be one of them strange..fetishes......

I've got to be the slowest typer on earth...anyhow
<agrees 100% with Sir Dominic it leaves the fun out completely...the conversations could go pretty stupid "oh yes..you said it all in your application..........soo lets just go straight to the how good you are in the bedroom part - it's one of them vocational tests of course"

and ye the interesting section has helped me quite often

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:40:49 AM

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I have a 'Master' application, it was a joke, it started off as a 'Boyfriend Application' to post on myspace as a joke {ok, it was a dare}; then I had af ew people ask me to modify it and make it into a 'Master Application' I have it finished on my computer, I have never sent it out; I may post it on myspace or on lifejournal as a joke; thing is, I got a bunch of emails in response to the BF Application.

I do know people who have asked me to tell them WHY I was 'worthy' of being their slave after THEY contacted me, I turned the tables on them, 'why are YOU worthy of me as a slave?' Most don't like that, oh well. A relationship is a two way street.

Filling out a profile is kinda like filling out an application or a resume of sorts, why would I want to do more of that?

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:46:54 AM

RCdc

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

Application fetish has got to be one of them strange..fetishes......

Ha!- at least you can spell it (unlike me).

I did know someone with a paperwork fetish - loved getting people to fill in forms and the like. To her (so she said) there was a thrill at the power of having someone completing something seemingly pointless to them but did it because she desired it.

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:49:10 AM

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Jerry, I think you are referring to a kink preference questionnaire. That is not what the OP is talking about.

Like you, I have used the kink profiles to good effect, but as with everything else in BDSM there are plenty of opposing opinions. Plus this is something to use much further along. It is not a first meeting thing to do.

Namaste, Sir Dominic

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:49:15 AM

LadyEllen

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I recall that oft used line used in letters accompanying CVs...."I enclose a CV in support of my application".

In this case, should it be "in apport of my supplication"?

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RE: Applications! - 6/12/2007 11:50:07 AM

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An "application" is a communication tool. Nothing more, nothing less.

Just like a "BDSM Kink Checklist", "negotiation", "safe words", "discussion", "chat", "petition", "slave contract", "email", "conversation", etc, an application is a method of conveying information from one party to another. It often says as much about the one requiring the completed application as it does about the one completing it.

For some, yeah, it's posturing. For others, it's a legitimate tool to help weed out posers and wankers. For others it's a way to recruit posers and wankers, or to get wanking material... ;)

Keep in mind that not all tools work for all users in all circumstances. If it works for you, in this instance, use it. If it doesn't, put it back in the toolbox for use later...

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