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slaverosebeauty -> "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 9:22:58 AM)

Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'AP 
DELCAMBRE, La. (June 13) - Overly saggy britches are obscene, the Delcambre Town Council says. So does Mayor Carol Broussard, who said he will sign an anti-sag ordinance passed unanimously this week. 
The new indecent exposure ordinance in this Cajun-country town of about 2,000 carries penalties of up to six months in jail and a $500 fine for being caught in pants that show undergarments or, in the mayor's phrase, "private parts."

"I don't know if it will do any good, but it won't hurt," said Delcambre Councilman Albert Roy, who introduced the ordinance. "It's obvious, and anybody with common sense can see your parts when you wear sagging pants ."

The meeting Monday night packed the small trailer that has been Town Hall since Hurricane Rita swept in six feet of storm surge on Sept. 24, 2005.

Low-hanging, baggy pants have become a fashion fad, mostly for young men in the hip-hop culture. Several residents objected that the ordinance targeted blacks.

Broussard denied any racial motivation. "White people wear sagging pants, too. Anybody who wears these pants should be held responsible."
Although Roy, who is black, introduced the ordinance, he said a $500 fine is outrageous: "I think it should be something like $25."

The ordinance states, "It shall be unlawful for any person in any public place or in view of the public to be found in a state of nudity, or partial nudity, or in dress not becoming to his or her sex, or in any indecent exposure of his or her person or undergarments, or be guilty of any indecent or lewd behavior."

The law applies to women as well as men, the mayor said Wednesday. "If you expose some of your privates, the crack of your behind, if somebody feels insulted they should press charges. If you're offended by it, we want to straighten that out."

The clause about "dress not becoming to his or her sex" doesn't forbid cross-dressing, Broussard said. "A dress, I wouldn't find that obscene. As long as he covers himself and it's not too short."
The ordinance isn't needed because the state has an indecent exposure law, resident Sylvester Harris said during Monday's meeting. But town attorney Ted Ayo said the measure expands on the state law by adding underwear to the list of forbidden exposures.

"This is a new ordinance that deals specifically with sagging pants," Ayo said. "It's about showing off your underwear in public."

Town resident Adam George had another objection. "It's just going to be harassment," he said at the Monday meeting. "People that don't like me are going to call and complain on me and say I've got saggy pants. I'm going to have to pay to bond out, even if I'm right."

Police Chief James Broussard said he didn't have a problem with George's pants, which hung below his waist but were covered by a long T-shirt.

"It's not like I'm showing my privates or anything like that," George said. "It's my boxers."

Mayor Broussard's public advice for people who like their pants to hang low: "Just wear it properly. Cover your vital parts. I mean, if you expose your private parts, you'll get a fine. If you walk up and your pants drop, you get a fine. They're better off taking the pants off and just wearing a dress."



 Persoanlly, I LOVE this new ordinance. I think its about time, I dont' want to see guy's boxers or skivies, its looks stupid; how can you run those things, plus, they use a belt to 'keep them up' isn't that an oxymoron. As a woman who wears their jeans low on the hips, I would be in trouble. I could deal.




peepeegirl5 -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 9:28:21 AM)

*sigh*

I spose this means I won't get to go on any first dates, nude, in Delcambre, Lousyannna.




popeye1250 -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 10:32:15 AM)

That's "Fashion?"
Walking around looking like you're wearing your father's pants?
They ever hear of a BELT?




mistoferin -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 10:36:08 AM)

Sagging is a trend that started in prison. It was a means of flagging. If you wanted to let the other men know you were "available" for sex then you sagged your pants.




Lashra -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 10:42:29 AM)

I wish they'd do this here in Maryland! The worst case of it I have ever seen was at the mall, this guys pants hung under his buttcheeks and everyone could see his YELLOWED briefs with a brown racing stripe up the back.[:'(] It was disgusting!

~Lashra




seeksfemslave -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 10:54:44 AM)

I wont rush to judgement, I want to see a picture.




domiguy -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 11:03:04 AM)

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The ordinance states, "It shall be unlawful for any person in any public place or in view of the public to be found in a state of nudity, or partial nudity, or in dress not becoming to his or her sex, or in any indecent exposure of his or her person or undergarments, or be guilty of any indecent or lewd behavior."

I personally will be citing every working guy ...Especially plumbers, for breaking this ordinance....It is stooopid!!!......What about women going braless or showing off their lacy bras or lingerie a fashion statement?  Swimsuits...Thongs or too much cleavage? A white girl wearing a thong...or a black guy wearing low hanging drawers...Who's getting harassed?...Hmmmm  this is a tough one....The white chick, right?....Plumbers of La. unite and fight this justless law.




LadyEllen -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 11:04:33 AM)

I think its wrong to fine the simple minded because of their difficulties in dressing themselves.

And lets face it, hip hop culture is certainly simple minded.

E




domiguy -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 12:31:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I think its wrong to fine the simple minded because of their difficulties in dressing themselves.

And lets face it, hip hop culture is certainly simple minded.

E


Perhaps it has evolved into something rather bland.  But to say that hip hop has not had an impact on a global scale from fashion to the music....Would be ignoring the obvious....Much of it is mindless drivel...But is it that much different than any type of music which has preceded it?




popeye1250 -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 1:49:53 PM)

Whenever I see those guys I say to them; "Hey! Your pants are falling down!"
Last year I was walking into a supermarket and there were three of them in front of me and I said to them, "Hey guys, hike 'em up, there's ladies present."
A girl who was working there started laughing.
I didn't know about that "Flagging" stuff.
The next time I see someone I'll let them know.
"Hey Buddy, didn't you know that those droopy drawers means you like to take it up the ass?"




fadedlace -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 2:02:56 PM)

A couple of years ago, I was standing in line at a convenience store, when in swaggered a young black man with the crotch of his pants down around his knees, huge t-shirt, cap on sideways, boxer shorts showing almost all the way to the bottom of his ass.  The elderly black woman in front of me looked at him over her glasses and raised an eyebrow.

"Young man!"
"Yes, ma'am?"
"PULL those pants up where they belong and TUCK that shirt in!"

I don't think they knew each other, but he obeyed her pretty damn quick.  She didn't say thank you, and he kept them that way after she left.  He never grumbled or said a word about it, and nobody else did, either.

(As an aside, there are a lot of places around here in northwest Louisiana where you aren't allowed to go if you're dressed that way.)




Lordandmaster -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 3:37:58 PM)

I think it should be illegal for men but highly encouraged for women.




RCdc -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 3:45:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

I think it should be illegal for men but highly encouraged for women.

Wow now LAM - I was gonna take the serious stance here...[;)]
 
Long slung baggies illegal?
I bet they won't pull up (pun intended) hipsters on 18 year old women.
Honestly, I would be more 'offended' by workmans ass than the top of some underpants...
 
It may seem funny, but nanny state et al.
 
Peace
the.dark.




Gauge -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 3:59:00 PM)

The "fashion" statement is just dumb and perhaps offensive to a degree because I really don't want to see someones boxer shorts but this is just another example of over-legislation. You mean to tell me that with everything else that is going on in that town post-Rita that someones underwear is important enough to make a law about? These politicos do not have better things to do?

Next they will ban sandals because seeing ugly feet is offensive.




Mercnbeth -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 4:04:21 PM)

Out here in sunny SoCal there are a plenty of 'whale tails' to observe on any given day. Some are nice but some - you wish you were Stevie Wonder!

As the government steps in more and more, I see us moving to the world of the future as seen in Logan's Run or any of the worlds visited by Captain Kirk. Big Brother will provide a calender announcing the uniform and colors of the day, and everyone will be required to wear it.




Vendaval -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 4:09:21 PM)

Just say, "NO!" to crack!  [:D]


quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy
Plumbers of La. unite and fight this justless law.




slaverosebeauty -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 4:17:01 PM)

This law works for the 'criminals' as well. I remember seeing on COPS a while back where a guy had his pants so low he could not run, they caught him in a few moments, he tripped over his pants that fell down around his ankles. {rofl} If only he had been wearing pants as they were meant to be worn.

It looks gross {pants hanging half way down your ass?!}, I don't want to see a guy in his undies unless its in bedroom or on a billboard and he is good looking. [:D]

If this 'trend' was started to show that a guy was 'avaliable' then does that mean that ALL the guys who do this 'flagging' are gay and looking to be 'taken'?!




selfbnd411 -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 4:52:40 PM)

Wow...welcome to the 1990s!  Sagging has been popular since rap hit it big in the early 90s.  You know a fashion trend is on the outs when it gets banned...15 years after it began!




Pandamonum -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 6:17:37 PM)

I'm sorry. I do not like this style. I would not do it.  However, I do not want any type of government to be involved in my closet, my bedroom or anything of that nature. 
It is obvious racism.




Griswold -> RE: "Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'" (6/14/2007 6:21:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

Louisiana Town Bans 'Sagging Pants'AP 
DELCAMBRE, La. (June 13) - Overly saggy britches are obscene, the Delcambre Town Council says. So does Mayor Carol Broussard, who said he will sign an anti-sag ordinance passed unanimously this week. 
The new indecent exposure ordinance in this Cajun-country town of about 2,000 carries penalties of up to six months in jail and a $500 fine for being caught in pants that show undergarments or, in the mayor's phrase, "private parts."

"I don't know if it will do any good, but it won't hurt," said Delcambre Councilman Albert Roy, who introduced the ordinance. "It's obvious, and anybody with common sense can see your parts when you wear sagging pants ."

The meeting Monday night packed the small trailer that has been Town Hall since Hurricane Rita swept in six feet of storm surge on Sept. 24, 2005.

Low-hanging, baggy pants have become a fashion fad, mostly for young men in the hip-hop culture. Several residents objected that the ordinance targeted blacks.

Broussard denied any racial motivation. "White people wear sagging pants, too. Anybody who wears these pants should be held responsible."


    Although Roy, who is black, introduced the ordinance, he said a $500 fine is outrageous: "I think it should be something like $25."

    The ordinance states, "It shall be unlawful for any person in any public place or in view of the public to be found in a state of nudity, or partial nudity, or in dress not becoming to his or her sex, or in any indecent exposure of his or her person or undergarments, or be guilty of any indecent or lewd behavior."

    The law applies to women as well as men, the mayor said Wednesday. "If you expose some of your privates, the crack of your behind, if somebody feels insulted they should press charges. If you're offended by it, we want to straighten that out."

    The clause about "dress not becoming to his or her sex" doesn't forbid cross-dressing, Broussard said. "A dress, I wouldn't find that obscene. As long as he covers himself and it's not too short."
    The ordinance isn't needed because the state has an indecent exposure law, resident Sylvester Harris said during Monday's meeting. But town attorney Ted Ayo said the measure expands on the state law by adding underwear to the list of forbidden exposures.

    "This is a new ordinance that deals specifically with sagging pants," Ayo said. "It's about showing off your underwear in public."

    Town resident Adam George had another objection. "It's just going to be harassment," he said at the Monday meeting. "People that don't like me are going to call and complain on me and say I've got saggy pants. I'm going to have to pay to bond out, even if I'm right."

    Police Chief James Broussard said he didn't have a problem with George's pants, which hung below his waist but were covered by a long T-shirt.

    "It's not like I'm showing my privates or anything like that," George said. "It's my boxers."

    Mayor Broussard's public advice for people who like their pants to hang low: "Just wear it properly. Cover your vital parts. I mean, if you expose your private parts, you'll get a fine. If you walk up and your pants drop, you get a fine. They're better off taking the pants off and just wearing a dress."





     Persoanlly, I LOVE this new ordinance. I think its about time, I dont' want to see guy's boxers or skivies, its looks stupid; how can you run those things, plus, they use a belt to 'keep them up' isn't that an oxymoron. As a woman who wears their jeans low on the hips, I would be in trouble. I could deal.


    Hey!

    It's this simple:  When I walk past someone...I want their smile to be left to right.

    (That's all).




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