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RE: Criminal BackGround Part 2 - 6/21/2007 6:22:47 AM

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Geekgirl, I work in Law Enforcement also. I think our level of caution is one of those things that goes along with the profession. To everyone else we seem paranoid. But I am always aware that IA can nose around in my private life at any time. Not to mention that whole feeling of living in a "fish-bowl". So for us, its not paranoia; "Big Brother" really IS watching.

"It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you."

Thank you :) I don't think some people realize just how extremely closely we are monitored and scrutinized and how easily we can lose our jobs for associating with the wrong people.

Not to mention that working with criminals DOES make you paranoid....once you see how nice and normal some of them are, it makes you look at EVERYone a little differently.

It has nothing to do with being a good judge of character....some of the people with the "best characters" have the longest rap sheets...they might be genuinely sweet and good hearted people but that doesn't keep them from having a record a mile long full of non-violent felonies.

Just to illustrate my point: There was a female inmate that I was very fond of (by that I mean, she always volunteered to be on my clean up crew, serve meal trays, very polite, respectful, etc.)

This person was humourous, charming, and genuinely seemed like one of the nicest folks you'd ever meet....Many officers considered her their favorite inmate.

Imagine our suprise when she was convicted and sentenced to death for the starvation/abuse/murder of her young UM.

People who think "being a good judge of character" is enough to ferret out the people with a record, well I think they must not know as many criminals as I do. Some of the nicest people I ever met in jail were pedophiles, capital murderers, and high ranking gang members.

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RE: Criminal BackGround Part 2 - 6/21/2007 6:26:50 AM

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Would you provide all such information to me? If so, then we have something we can work off of.

I would in a heart beat, if you were someone I was seriously considering meeting in real time.

Good for the goose is good for the gander...

Then I would say this was poorly thought out. If I was really intent on doing injury to you or raping you, then I would have all your vehicle information, allowing me to easily pick out your car and follow you about and your name, birthdate, and DL number, giving me access to just about anything I want to know about you.

Including the job you are trying to protect...

Then, all I have to do is falisfy the information since I am simply giving it to you over the phone or the Net, given this is our first meet.

If we met at Wal Mart and were considering going off alone with me, I would think twice about your mental state. If we met at Wal Mart and I gave you my phone number so we can arrange a date in a public place and you wanted all that information as well, it would be an instant deal breaker.

Providing that amount of information gives someone with a little cash and the right web sites quite a lot of personal information...enough personal information that they can follow me, stalk me, plan out a robbery, kidnap my child from school...

And you providing all that information prior to a first meet is just making you more vulnerable to someone who is really trying to hurt you....especially when your honest and the other person isnt.

Now you can call me unsafe and call all my partners foolish, but I have yet to have anyone object or feal uncomfortable with meeting in a public place with a basic safe call and going our seperate ways at the end without having access to a complete personal profile.

Finnally, in my eyes, if someone does not have enough trust in their instincts and intuition to meet someone in such setting that eliminates major risk without having a complete record of the person stored away in their BDSM files, then they simply arent the ideal match for me.

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RE: Criminal BackGround Part 2 - 6/21/2007 7:35:24 AM

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This is a really good point, Mad...thanks for posting it.

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RE: Criminal BackGround Part 2 - 6/21/2007 7:58:09 AM

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I've been giving this a whole new thought on CBC.....

When dealing with "vanilla" relationships, I know I never ran one on someone. And there was 1 I wish I had of. Imagine coming home from work one day....having child protection standing at your door waiting for you. Because the gentleman you have been seeing... went that day to a scheduled mental health appointment (that you are not aware of either)...and he tells his shrink... he's been having sexual thoughts about your daughters. I had to sign a written agreement that the 3 of them would no longer be around each other at all. But before signing it...I agreed to take kids over to a friends house so that I could have a talk with my "Friend". 27 stitches later...in him.... and a trip down to the sheriff's office for me..(no charges were filed)...I signed a restraining order....and haven't seen him since.

So it makes you sort of wonder. Because although he had 2 other priors of molestaion with minors.. 1pending..1 found guilty. I never thought to run one. Now as for today..... yes... that is one I will in fact run. Here in NC... when you pull up Sex predators... you get only for the state of NC. But NC also lets you know their local address. And they also will place on there if said offender has moved to what state. So even if you have moved to NC from another state... it being the law you have to register... it's going to be there. This is a check I have ran on players and partners. And I hold no bars back in informing them I will or have done so. And I only do this if I feel the relationship has progressed to the point of my girls and this person are about to meet.

As for the rest of a CBC.... If I feel the need to double check what's been told to me... well shit... I just don't trust you...and there's no need to go further with anything.

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RE: Criminal BackGround Part 2 - 6/21/2007 6:49:41 PM

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As for the rest of a CBC.... If I feel the need to double check what's been told to me... well shit... I just don't trust you...and there's no need to go further with anything.

I don't trust ANYONE until I see it in black and white. Period. No matter how much I may THINK they are trustworthy.

Call it "cop paranoia". People are not to be trusted.

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RE: Criminal BackGround Part 2 - 6/21/2007 8:59:57 PM

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So it makes you sort of wonder. Because although he had 2 other priors of molestaion with minors.. 1pending..1 found guilty. I never thought to run one. Now as for today..... yes... that is one I will in fact run. Here in NC... when you pull up Sex predators... you get only for the state of NC. But NC also lets you know their local address. And they also will place on there if said offender has moved to what state. So even if you have moved to NC from another state... it being the law you have to register... it's going to be there. This is a check I have ran on players and partners. And I hold no bars back in informing them I will or have done so. And I only do this if I feel the relationship has progressed to the point of my girls and this person are about to meet.

Did you know, though, that a registered sex offender has one year to go to the sheriff's department and change his information when he moves to another state. So your state may tell you when one has moved out of town, but the opposite doesn't necessarily apply. You might have an unregistered offender living next door.

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RE: Criminal BackGround Part 2 - 6/21/2007 9:20:18 PM

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Before I meet someone I make sure I know their safe word. I make sure that they have their safe calls in place.....I make sure I get references from previous Doms and lovers. I make sure I get a background check as well as a credit report....I make sure they sign a Hippa release form so I can have access to their medical records....I make sure they have a collar of protection in place....I make sure that I have a profile of blood work as well as a toxicology report.....I make sure I possess the most recent copy of their resume.

After doing all of this I'm usually to tired to meet and stay home and jerk off.

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RE: Criminal BackGround Part 2 - 6/22/2007 2:35:49 AM

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greetings to all

i think a background check is needed in this bdsm lifestlye. there are way to many lose nuts running around. i have talk for two years with this one slave i trust him now and i do not think it was to long to get to know him. the way he say things i watch out for any type of talk about teen in a joking matter is just not for me. that show a hidden side of a person . i remember a man i knew made a statement about brook shields to someone else they may not had pick it up but i did his statement was " she is my little girl i love or adore her " not long after he was arrest for child molextion . it is the litle things they say that can make you see something is wrong . so i do look for words and things said and i listen to all he or they will say to me . how their childhood was is not something they could help if they was abuse it does not mean they will abuse someone. i know this i was abuse and would not ever even think of harming a little one so we all have childenhood that were way off the planet so that is not the most importnat thing for me to look for unless he was mean to animals ok long post but thank for listeniong

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RE: Criminal BackGround Part 2 - 6/22/2007 3:55:57 AM

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Most cops are as dirty as the criminals they arrest just the crimes are different. I have watched cops perjure themselves in court as well as just baldfaced lie about evidence as well as the law. Being an expert witness can be a real eye opener at times! I have seen them commit all sorts of felonies. Anyone watch whatever the last poor bastard LAPD beat the shit out of? Anyone know how many cops were pulled off the street when the Brady bill prevented anyone convicted of misdemeanor spousal abuse from carrying a gun?

How many serial killers and rapists get caught and had no prior police record? People who commit murder have one of the lower recidivism rates around. Petty crooks have police records, the really dangerous ones often don't.

As a cop I can understand checking on someone because they get into trouble for their associations. For the rest of us, if you don't have the skills to spot a con artist or an abuser, perhaps learning better relationship skills would be a better use of time rather than playing CSI without a real clue of what the hell you are doing.

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RE: Criminal BackGround Part 2 - 6/22/2007 5:05:26 AM

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So it makes you sort of wonder. Because although he had 2 other priors of molestaion with minors.. 1pending..1 found guilty. I never thought to run one. Now as for today..... yes... that is one I will in fact run. Here in NC... when you pull up Sex predators... you get only for the state of NC. But NC also lets you know their local address. And they also will place on there if said offender has moved to what state. So even if you have moved to NC from another state... it being the law you have to register... it's going to be there. This is a check I have ran on players and partners. And I hold no bars back in informing them I will or have done so. And I only do this if I feel the relationship has progressed to the point of my girls and this person are about to meet.

Did you know, though, that a registered sex offender has one year to go to the sheriff's department and change his information when he moves to another state. So your state may tell you when one has moved out of town, but the opposite doesn't necessarily apply. You might have an unregistered offender living next door.

Actually in NC they have 30 days...and NC is real good on keeping their pages updated and informed by other states when one moves here...since they're required by law to inform where they're moving to...to begin with. And yes.. I know.. not all do... And as for 1 living next door... apparently they're keeping their mouth shut and way from my girls.. because they're still breathing...LOL

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RE: Criminal BackGround Part 2 - 6/22/2007 5:11:53 AM

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As for the rest of a CBC.... If I feel the need to double check what's been told to me... well shit... I just don't trust you...and there's no need to go further with anything.

I don't trust ANYONE until I see it in black and white. Period. No matter how much I may THINK they are trustworthy.

Call it "cop paranoia". People are not to be trusted.

Call it what ever you want as well geeky... damn I'm not telling someone not to run a CBC.. nor am I telling anyone to run one.... And you need to watch out for that Cop Paranoia shit... cops that are that paranoid... have itchy fingers.... so calm down a bit... back off of me... and you just do what you have to do that makes your life complete...and the hell with what anyone else thinks or says....cause no matter the out come... it's all on you... you and you alone.

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RE: Criminal BackGround Part 2 - 6/23/2007 6:03:39 PM

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I make sure they sign a Hippa release...

Correction: that's HIPAA - Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act

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