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RE: Curtesy a sign of weekness? - 6/30/2007 4:11:00 PM

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personally, i had great respect before i ever offered my submission..........i wouldnt be able to give my self to a person who had no manners and no common courtesy towards other human beings.....

not to mention, opening a door for me makes me feel all warm and fuzzy, and i had my chances to repay that feeling.....damn that was enjoyable

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RE: Curtesy a sign of weekness? - 6/30/2007 4:15:13 PM

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To echo what some others have said, to me LACK of courtesy is a sign of weakness. It often means that the person is insecure and trying to impress/overwhelm you with their "domliness." I believe that people who are truly at peace with who and what they are, see being curt, pushy, or obnoxious as the furthest thing from what they are and want to be.

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RE: Curtesy a sign of weekness? - 6/30/2007 4:58:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: AnonymouseTC

To echo what some others have said, to me LACK of courtesy is a sign of weakness. It often means that the person is insecure and trying to impress/overwhelm you with their "domliness." I believe that people who are truly at peace with who and what they are, see being curt, pushy, or obnoxious as the furthest thing from what they are and want to be.

I agree with the above statement.
Courtesty is never a sign of weakness, it is usually a sign of strength.

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RE: Curtesy a sign of weekness? - 6/30/2007 6:20:37 PM

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I am currently on vacation and was able to have lunch with some people where I am at that are in the lifestyle. Kinda like a munch if you will....

Upon arrival I opened the door to private dinning room we were using and got "good boy" as a response. When I asked about the comment I was told that the person in question thought I was a sub or bottom.

Of course this was the topic of the lunch and I will post it here for you subs/slaves to comment.

If a top/dom/master shows curtesy is he/she also showing weekness?

For me I say no. I can step into an intersection and control traffic. I can and have stepped in between people fighting each other. I also am polite and respectful. I do not see it as a sign of weekness to be polite. I see it as a point of honor and stregnth.

rereading this, i wonder if the person that said "good boy" also thought they were showing good manners? then i think why would they assume only a sub would open a door for someone.......sometimes i think too much......i think

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RE: Curtesy a sign of weekness? - 7/1/2007 11:31:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: SirDraven

Upon arrival I opened the door to private dinning room we were using and got "good boy" as a response. When I asked about the comment I was told that the person in question thought I was a sub or bottom.

I think the real issue here is that this person - who obviously didn't even know you well enough to know how you identified - took it upon themself to be all domly to you and actually say "good boy"! That wouldn't be appropriate, in my book, even if you *were* an s-type.

Which, to me, paints that person as a fool right off the bat. Which means that they can be ignored and discounted. Their perspective doesn't count anymore.

Re: submission = weakness...you're making some strange connections there. You might want to reconsider that. Would you want a relationship with a weak person?

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RE: Curtesy a sign of weekness? - 7/1/2007 11:32:29 AM

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She made a comment directed to slaves... "Take your potential top/dom/master to the finest restraunt you can afford. See how they treat the wait staff for that is surely how they will treat you. If you can arrange it have the waiter spill water on him. The water will not stain or hurt anything. How he reacts to that will say a lot about how you will get treated."

And overall, I agree with her on this point.

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RE: Curtesy a sign of weekness? - 7/1/2007 11:45:58 PM

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Greetings

Master always opens the door for me; pulls out my chair and waits for me to be seated; stands when I stand. He does the same in the presence of any lady; no matter their orientation in life. He does it because he was raised to be a gentleman in that respect. He does it because he is secure in his own skin that he does not have to worry about it being seen as a weakness.

Of course, if his arms are full, I open the doors for him; as is only expected in courteous company

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RE: Courtesy a sign of weakness? - 7/2/2007 12:19:12 AM

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Take your potential top/dom/master to the finest restaurant you can afford. See how they treat the wait staff for that is surely how they will treat you. If you can arrange it have the waiter spill water on him. The water will not stain or hurt anything. How he reacts to that will say a lot about how you will get treated."

If he bitch slaps the waiter, knocks him/her to his/her hands and knees and makes him/her beg for forgiveness while licking up the spill - you know you've found the right Master.

LOL I was thinking the same thing.

And then I was thinking, as soon as he learned I had arranged for someone to spill on him, he wouldn't be my potential Master anymore.

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RE: Curtesy a sign of weekness? - 7/2/2007 5:46:05 AM

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Do you mean courtesy?

How can showing courtesy/manners ever be classed as being weak?

Manners maketh the Man!!

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for info the meaning of curtesy (below) as taken from the American Heritage Dictionary also means same in English Dictionary.

cur·te·sy
n. pl. cur·te·sies
The life tenure that by common law is held by a man over the property of his deceased wife if children with rights of inheritance were born during the marriage.

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RE: Curtesy a sign of weekness? - 7/2/2007 9:36:57 AM

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Courtesy and manners are the lubricant that keep the machinery of society turning smoothly. When courtesy is made light of or put in disrepute; watch things slowly grind to a chaotic mess.

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RE: Curtesy a sign of weekness? - 7/3/2007 4:25:13 PM

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Courtesy and manners indicate good breeding, proper social skills and consideration for those around you. A lack of courtesy is a glaring exhibition of ignorance and crudeness. I like to be in the presence of people that lack common courtesy because they make me look better!

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RE: Curtesy a sign of weekness? - 7/3/2007 5:06:10 PM

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I researched what the appropriate response would be to a person saying “good boy” to you (if you are not a slave or a sub) upon opening the door for them. The following quote is taken from the “bible” for etiquette and protocol, “Etiquette in Society, in Business, in Politics and at Home” by Emily Post, 17th edition, page 524, chapter 11, paragraph 2, and I quote, “You may, one day, find yourself at a BDSM oriented social gathering (aka a “munch”). At said gathering you may be required to open the door to allow a guest to enter, even though you are neither a sub nor a slave, because it is the polite thing to do. The person that you do this for might acknowledge your courtesy by saying to you “good boy” as though you are subservient to him/her. The appropriate response in this situation is an unannounced head butt to the point or the bridge of the person’s nose,” Well, there it is in black and white. I hope this helps.

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RE: Curtesy a sign of weekness? - 7/3/2007 8:56:04 PM

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Good manners aren't exclusive to subhood or Domdom. To me, a Dom showing good manners is incredibly sexy and powerful, and in control of himself as well as others. I wouldn't play with a Dom who was rude, it'd make me wonder about how much care he'd take during the scene.

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