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ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs

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Losing your job for being pregnant is illegal and if she was smart, she'd sue.

Again with the illogical factually incorrect information.  Under the equal opportunity federal laws race, gender, age, and disabilities are protected classes, but being pregnant isn't a protected class.  Some states, such as my state of Connecticut have sexual orientation has a protected class however none of them have pregnant as a protected class.  Almost all states are fire at will states, which means except for being a member of a protected class (under which you'd have some legal recourse), you can be fired whenever the employer wants to do so.

So no she wouldn't have a very strong case for suing her employer because she was pregnant.

C~

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Sorry, empathy isn't my strong suit and never was (you musta missed the aspergers thread.)

I am not an empathetic person and have no interest in becoming one.

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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

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ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs

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Losing your job for being pregnant is illegal and if she was smart, she'd sue.

Again with the illogical factually incorrect information.  Under the equal opportunity federal laws race, gender, age, and disabilities are protected classes, but being pregnant isn't a protected class.  Some states, such as my state of Connecticut have sexual orientation has a protected class however none of them have pregnant as a protected class.  Almost all states are fire at will states, which means except for being a member of a protected class (under which you'd have some legal recourse), you can be fired whenever the employer wants to do so.

So no she wouldn't have a very strong case for suing her employer because she was pregnant.

C~

Family medical leave act. Yes, it's illegal to fire for pregnancy.

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Sorry, empathy isn't my strong suit and never was (you musta missed the aspergers thread.)

I am not an empathetic person and have no interest in becoming one.

That was a sarcastic "sorry". As in "too bad soo sad,sorry buddy".

And ?

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The Pregnancy Discrimination Act is an amendment to Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Discrimination on the basis of pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions constitutes unlawful sex discrimination under Title VII, which covers employers with 15 or more employees, including state and local governments. Title VII also applies to employment agencies and to labor organizations, as well as to the federal government. Women who are pregnant or affected by related conditions must be treated in the same manner as other applicants or employees with similar abilities or limitations.

Taken from:
http://www.eeoc.gov/types/pregnancy.html

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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

The Pregnancy Discrimination Act is an amendment to Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Discrimination on the basis of pregnancy, childbirth, or related medical conditions constitutes unlawful sex discrimination under Title VII, which covers employers with 15 or more employees, including state and local governments. Title VII also applies to employment agencies and to labor organizations, as well as to the federal government. Women who are pregnant or affected by related conditions must be treated in the same manner as other applicants or employees with similar abilities or limitations.

Taken from:
http://www.eeoc.gov/types/pregnancy.html

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Either way, I don't consider my lack of empathy to be a negative trait. I consider most people to be bleeding hearts with too much empathy.

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Again with the illogical factually incorrect information.  Under the equal opportunity federal laws race, gender, age, and disabilities are protected classes, but being pregnant isn't a protected class. 

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

D&td, you are hoist by your own petard...

'Sorry' in that context is clearly a conversational device, a mere figure of speech, not an apology, and certainly nothing approaching an admission of wrongdoing.

Lack of empathy is one of the DSM criteria for Aspergers... so criticisms of someone with Aspergers for lacking empathy are especially ironic.

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Either way, I don't consider my lack of empathy to be a negative trait. I consider most people to be bleeding hearts with too much empathy.

*falls about laughing*

More! More! You're priceless.

You claim to have no empathy, and that may be true, you seem to lack many other human traits so why not empathy? But you don't have to be empathic to recognise that not every homeless person is there by choice, and that thanks to a little thing called unemployment there are not, as you boldly claim 'jobs everywhere'.

You say you hate lazy people, but what about ignorant ones? Like maybe those who can't speak for England or Europe, but wait! Isn't England IN Europe? Was last time I checked, so before you start railing on stereotypes and making generalisations perhaps you should put your lil' shovel down and stop digging this wonderful hole that you're slowly disappearing into. (And I'm sure your aunt would be thrilled to hear you speak of her in such glowing terms. She must be very proud.)

You sling generalisations around like confetti - 'most homeless women I've come in contact with have spent their whole lives popping out puppies instead of getting a job and an education' - Really? Have you asked them all whether they have an education? Even if not, perhaps they chose to have children just as you have chosen not to (see I *did* read your profile, and I can almost hear Darwin sigh with relief).

You're young, honey, you think you're the shit, and maybe you are in GeekyGirl World, but you have much to learn about the way the world works, and you will in time. Your fault is your lack of empathy, mine is sarcasm and being patronizing when an easy target pops his or her head above the parapet, so don't take me too seriously (because I certainly don't), and just remember sometimes to put your cerebellum in gear before applying those digits to the keyboard with insupportable facts.

You're great!

Darcy

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AND , Darcy, it wasn't an apology. It was a smart-assed statement.

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But all that aside, a debate is a debate,and though I get involved in them, I don't take them that seriously. I may be arguing with you, but it doesn't mean I have a lot opinion of you and you're still alright in my book :)

FYI - you are 'arguing' with an 'us' not a 'you'....

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I just don't see why you need to use aspergers as an explaination/excuse etc when a few posts before and after she was criticising people and saying she lacked empathy for the reason for being unemployed -