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farglebargle -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/10/2007 6:43:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado Amazing, the notions that some people come up with in order to pronounce themselves superior to those who put themselves in harm's way. [8\|] . Firefighters? Cause from what I've seen of Cops, they'll hide from danger, just like at Columbine...

Real0ne -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/10/2007 7:08:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado You should go down to your local PD with that, they would probably pay you very handsomely to demonstrate how you can make a head shot with a pistol at 100 yards while not taking cover from automatic fire....[8\|] you have conveniently added all your own contingencies on this that i never said or elluded to. first i did not say what weapon i would use. next i did not say i would not have "any" cover third the perp would not even see me at 100 yards when he is worrying about the others at 20 and 50 yards. you set it up with the pd and if the ching is good enough not only me but i have several buds that will want in on this easy cash too! a few of those guys take down running deer at 300 yards LOL. I will use a pistol even though i was thinking rifle when i made that statement. We rarely shoot pistols at less then 50 yards with soda cans for the targets and quite often larger targets the size of a musk melon at 100 yards. Not bragging here as i am sure there are many other shooters on here that can make those claims as well.

Real0ne -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/10/2007 7:13:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Well is used to knock humming birds out of the air with my 22...God how I hate those nectar sipping whores!!! Anyone wanna try for dragon flies or mosquitos? I smell doodoo. LOLOLOL Hey ever try bats? Those have to be the hardest damn creatures on the planet to hit. i only hit one in my life after a zillion rounds and frankly i think it was just a lcuky shot... (by accident) LOL uhg i didnt see the i smell doo doo part.... oh well....

latexbarbiets -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/10/2007 7:17:44 PM)
Thank you, I tend to watch out for myself and other girls carefully. And as for the 2 posters asking why they didnt carry guns. Not feasible carrying guns to nightclubs or wearing a minidress. And 2 i know of where shot in the back.

latexbarbiets -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/10/2007 7:22:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy "Straight men want WOMAN- plain and simple" Now thats the funniest statement i've heard in a while. I've been with Hundreds of men that say they are straight, yet they have sex with transsexuals and GUYS. And thousands more that i've spoke to over the years saying they are straight but want to be with a TS or guy. Of course there are the Straight Straight guys, but not as many as you'd think.

domiguy -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/10/2007 7:22:55 PM)
In all seriousness...If I recall what happened at the same time the gunmen got out of the bank...Were not the police concerned about people living in the immediate vacinity...Were they not clearing out houses and businesses as the gunmen walked down the street...I saw the documentary on this shootout....Obviously the police should be concerned about opening up on the two gun men if there fire would be rattling around the neighborhood...I think they ended up going to a gun shop(?) and getting some weapons...Might be wrong.....When it was all said and done I think the police did everything in their power to contain the situation...Many, many people could have been killed during that ordeal and I think from what I remember seeing and reading about the situation the cops were heroes.

Real0ne -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/10/2007 7:27:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: latexbarbiets quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy "Straight men want WOMAN- plain and simple" Of course there are the Straight Straight guys, but not as many as you'd think. dont you love the pinnacle of denial? Its is seriously bad when a person has to say what you just did because peoples self image is so distorted from reality.

MzMia -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/10/2007 8:33:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: latexbarbiets quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy "Straight men want WOMAN- plain and simple" Now thats the funniest statement i've heard in a while. I've been with Hundreds of men that say they are straight, yet they have sex with transsexuals and GUYS. And thousands more that i've spoke to over the years saying they are straight but want to be with a TS or guy. Of course there are the Straight Straight guys, but not as many as you'd think. I totally believe this, gay/bisexual until proven straight. Are you familiar with the term "On the Down Low?" [;)]" LatexBarbiets, you have a beautiful smile.

Owner59 -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/10/2007 10:24:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado and the head shot comment works better in Hollywood than in reality So training and policy dictate taking cover until things can be changed.., and the threat can be neutralized which is exactly what these officers did. well you just made my point. as a kid i used to get my kicks shooting sparrows out of the air with a 22. laugh but watch a sparrow fly sometimes. maybe comparing the abilities of my untrained self to trained police is a bad example. i sort of doubt these guys would even see a shooter perched 100 yards away while others are popping 9mil rounds randomly at them. a head shot at 100 yards is like having the braod side of a barn for a target. that is simply not hollywood in this case... sorry. Well, tough guy,....how well would you`ve done, if the sparrows were shooting 22 longs back at you?I think you`d poop your pants, run and hide. Anyone who viewed that vid of the battle,could see that the police were making hits,but these guys were armoured and armed with full auto Russian assalt rifles.The mussle blast from an AK-47 is frightning at semi-auto.I couldn`t imagine being on the wrong end of one going full-auto.Or two, on full auto... These armchair worriors,pfuuuaaawww!Maybe chicken hawks, would be a better term. This mentality, is why were bogged down in Vietnam,...errrrrrr,ummm ,I mean Iraq.Arrogant know-nothings(like bush/chaney) talking as if they knew better then the men doing the fighting. I mean this in a general way,and towards no one personally. Peace

uwinceismile -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/10/2007 10:34:47 PM)
somehow, i knew you would make it about bush,,,,,rofl

Alumbrado -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 3:16:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado You should go down to your local PD with that, they would probably pay you very handsomely to demonstrate how you can make a head shot with a pistol at 100 yards while not taking cover from automatic fire....[8\|] you have conveniently added all your own contingencies on this that i never said or elluded to. first i did not say what weapon i would use. next i did not say i would not have "any" cover third the perp would not even see me at 100 yards when he is worrying about the others at 20 and 50 yards. you set it up with the pd and if the ching is good enough not only me but i have several buds that will want in on this easy cash too! a few of those guys take down running deer at 300 yards LOL. I will use a pistol even though i was thinking rifle when i made that statement. We rarely shoot pistols at less then 50 yards with soda cans for the targets and quite often larger targets the size of a musk melon at 100 yards. Not bragging here as i am sure there are many other shooters on here that can make those claims as well. I have not added anything. We were specifically discussing criticism of the police in the north Hollywood robbery for not standing out in the open, facing the automatic fire, and shooting the armored robbers in the head with their duty weapons. You interjected the claim that you could have done just that, at 100 yards. I think that you are dreaming.

Alumbrado -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 4:04:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle Firefighters? Cause from what I've seen of Cops, they'll hide from danger, just like at Columbine... I doubt seriously if you have ever seen anything that you didn't suckle from the glass teat. In the real world, firefighters aren't trained to deliberately get themselves killed while failing to stop the threat, anymore than cops are.

Real0ne -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 4:30:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado You should go down to your local PD with that, they would probably pay you very handsomely to demonstrate how you can make a head shot with a pistol at 100 yards while not taking cover from automatic fire....[8\|] you have conveniently added all your own contingencies on this that i never said or elluded to. first i did not say what weapon i would use. next i did not say i would not have "any" cover third the perp would not even see me at 100 yards when he is worrying about the others at 20 and 50 yards. you set it up with the pd and if the ching is good enough not only me but i have several buds that will want in on this easy cash too! a few of those guys take down running deer at 300 yards LOL. I will use a pistol even though i was thinking rifle when i made that statement. We rarely shoot pistols at less then 50 yards with soda cans for the targets and quite often larger targets the size of a musk melon at 100 yards. Not bragging here as i am sure there are many other shooters on here that can make those claims as well. I have not added anything. We were specifically discussing criticism of the police in the north Hollywood robbery for not standing out in the open, facing the automatic fire, and shooting the armored robbers in the head with their duty weapons. You interjected the claim that you could have done just that, at 100 yards. I think that you are dreaming. you are obviously not a shooter and if you are a shooter not a very goiod one. sure it can be done with a beretta or a glock just takes a couple extra rounds. again you are the one who said "no cover" not me. i said shoot with cover but from a distance. i think you are getting me confused with someone elses comments. we are only talking a 100 yards here not a 1000. i am not going to bother calling la to find out if they have a choice of weapon like they have here.

Alumbrado -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 4:36:27 AM)
Maybe I am confusing you with the person who didn't know the difference between a clip and a magazine, or the difference between a revolver and a pistol, but once again, I did not add anything about no cover... that was the subject of discussion before you came along and claimed you could do it better than the officers involved in the north Hollywood shootout.

Real0ne -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 4:46:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado Maybe I am confusing you with the person who didn't know the difference between a clip and a magazine, or the difference between a revolver and a pistol, but once again, I did not add anything about no cover... that was the subject of discussion before you came along and claimed you could do it better than the officers involved in the north Hollywood shootout. any shooter could do it better, and i could give a rats ass if you do not like my generalizations. i happen to call it a clip and will continue to call it a clip, as in short for "magazine clip". i stated what i would do if faced with the same situation they were in not your scenario. you can depend on police protection and i will depend on my trigger finger so be it. now back to your previously scheduled impotent discussion.

Alumbrado -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 4:48:51 AM)
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cjenny -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 5:02:42 AM)
Pssst RO, I've always called it a clip too.

Alumbrado -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 5:07:22 AM)
Not a thing in the world wrong with that... unless one is trying to pass themselves off as a firearms expert... then it tends to set off the BS detectors. Sort of like claiming one can do surgery better than the doctors at the local hospital, and then talking about having the nurse hand you a 'stat'...[:D]

Real0ne -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 6:01:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado Not a thing in the world wrong with that... unless one is trying to pass themselves off as a firearms expert... then it tends to set off the BS detectors. Sort of like claiming one can do surgery better than the doctors at the local hospital, and then talking about having the nurse hand you a 'stat'...[:D] more of YOUR fucking straw man arguments! Give it a rest buddy. I never passed myself off as a "fire arms" expert. (ballistics is another story). I said i am a "shooter" whats so damn difficult for you to understand with that. You are welcome to join us anytime you wish and we will show you some real life shooting that you claim can only be done in hollywood. sheeesh

Real0ne -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 6:04:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cjenny Pssst RO, I've always called it a clip too. well a magazine is a specific "style". To many letters in the word. clip works for me. If he wants be my secretary and correct me grammar to his satisfaction so be it LOL

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