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cjenny -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 6:07:40 AM)
I've got a Sig Sauer 9mm, I can load it/clean it/fire it etc but please don't ask me the names of all the pieces. I love target shooting and I'm dang good at it. If confronted by an armed person I bet I would miss them by a mile because of the adrenaline surge. Gimme a paper target any day lol.

Alumbrado -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 6:10:33 AM)
quote: I never passed myself off as a "fire arms" expert. (ballistics is another story). I said i am a "shooter" whats so damn difficult for you to understand with that. Sorry. "An expert shooter, making claims about his superior performance compared to the police under automatic weapons fire from armored subjects as in the videotaped robbery..." is that better?

Real0ne -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 6:12:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cjenny I've got a Sig Sauer 9mm, I can load it/clean it/fire it etc but please don't ask me the names of all the pieces. I love target shooting and I'm dang good at it. If confronted by an armed person I bet I would miss them by a mile because of the adrenaline surge. Gimme a paper target any day lol. yeh its the same thing we call buck fever in the north country. Lots of guys when they see a deer the hit everything but the deer because of the adrenaline. You have to train your mind to see a target and nothing but a target and then you are deadly.

michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 6:14:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: uwinceismile is it important to add 10 yrs to someones sentence because they say something during the act of a crime? or because the crime was perpertrated against another race? i would prefer that they just did away with plea bargaining when the crime was that viscious. and enforce the laws that we have on the books. the the fullest extent of the law. i mean honestly, does it matter if i am called a stupid effing white man, if the attacker is a different race? cant he be sentenced for the attack effieciently? what difference does it make if the person is a rascist, if he is killing another human being? cant we just procecute for murder?and not concern ourself with the idea that he did not like the other persons race? whats important is the crime committed,,and how we procecute it,,,not that the perp didnt like my skin color this is America...where crime DOES pay...to some extent.

farglebargle -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 6:25:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle Firefighters? Cause from what I've seen of Cops, they'll hide from danger, just like at Columbine... I doubt seriously if you have ever seen anything that you didn't suckle from the glass teat. In the real world, firefighters aren't trained to deliberately get themselves killed while failing to stop the threat, anymore than cops are. Of course, if the death of a cop can POSSIBLY save the life of a Child, isn't it worth the cost?

Alumbrado -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 6:29:26 AM)
Back to the glass teat FB, you are drooling.

stef -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 6:41:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne You are welcome to join us anytime you wish and we will show you some real life shooting that you claim can only be done in hollywood. Why do I get the feeling this would be like that motorcycle race you were challenged to a while back. If I remember correctly, you accepted that challenge then promptly disappeared for six months or so. quote: well a magazine is a specific "style". No, it's not just a specific "style" and it's not an issue of grammar. A magazine and a clip are as different as tires and wheels. If you were in the military as you claimed, you would know what the difference is. Maybe you're just another Chairborne Ranger. ~stef

farglebargle -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 6:43:05 AM)
It's a valid argument, isn't it? How many children died at Columbine due to the Officers refusal to take the chances needed to save them? How many of the 12 dead kids could have been saved?

Real0ne -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 6:48:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne You are welcome to join us anytime you wish and we will show you some real life shooting that you claim can only be done in hollywood. Why do I get the feeling this would be like that motorcycle race you were challenged to a while back. If I remember correctly, you accepted that challenge then promptly disappeared for six months or so. quote: well a magazine is a specific "style". No, it's not just a specific "style" and it's not an issue of grammar. A magazine and a clip are as different as tires and wheels. If you were in the military as you claimed, you would know what the difference is. Maybe you're just another Chairborne Ranger. ~stef simply because as usual you do not have a clue what went on there. as far as my calling is a clip again i DO NOT GIVE A FUCK get it? I will continue calling it a clip because that is what i always called and i like calling it a clip rather than a MAG A ZINE. If you dont fucking like it then dont bother reading my posts

Alumbrado -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 6:51:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle It's a valid argument, isn't it? How many children died at Columbine due to the Officers refusal to take the chances needed to save them? How many of the 12 dead kids could have been saved? A valid question if phrased properly. "How many more people would have died needlessly if the police had ignored their training and policy, and rushed in to 'save the children'? It is an easy game for keyboard commandos to cherry pick their criticisms with hindsight, while using TV as an ideal basis for comparison of what police, firefighters, etc. 'shoulda-coulda-woulda' done. You can do better.

Alumbrado -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 6:57:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne simply because as usual you do not have a clue what went on there. as far as my calling is a clip again i DO NOT GIVE A FUCK get it? I will continue calling it a clip because that is what i always called and i like calling it a clip rather than a MAG A ZINE. If you dont fucking like it then dont bother reading my posts Somebody is falling apart like a cheap suit. How about those who get upset at being refuted, don't make nonsensical and easily challenged claims and criticisms? Or, take your own advice, and just don't read the replies which challenge errors and call BS.

Real0ne -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 7:05:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne simply because as usual you do not have a clue what went on there. as far as my calling is a clip again i DO NOT GIVE A FUCK get it? I will continue calling it a clip because that is what i always called and i like calling it a clip rather than a MAG A ZINE. If you dont fucking like it then dont bother reading my posts Somebody is falling apart like a cheap suit. How about those who get upset at being refuted, don't make nonsensical and easily challenged claims and criticisms? Or, take your own advice, and just don't read the replies which challenge errors and call BS. Fine then prove i am wrong. Your claims have no more validation than you want to paint mine.

Alumbrado -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 7:09:04 AM)
I didn't make the claim that I could have ended the north Hollywood robbery with a head shot at 100 yards while under fire... You dug that hole all by yourself. As far as proving a negative...well, maybe on your planet, but here on Earth that challenge is as laughable as your claims of expertise.

Real0ne -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 7:21:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado I didn't make the claim that I could have ended the north Hollywood robbery with a head shot at 100 yards while under fire... You dug that hole all by yourself. As far as proving a negative...well, maybe on your planet, but here on Earth that challenge is as laughable as your claims of expertise. bullshit. you created your straw man arguments and claims that i never made. That is very disingenuous and frankly as lame as it gets and it indicates that your real objective is to draw attention away from your misrepresentatiojn of the points that i made. Its unfortunate the only way you can make your point is to misrepresent what i said.

Alumbrado -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 7:22:56 AM)
Anyone can read the posts and decide exactly what you said... ....apparently except for yourself ETA: If you didn't mean that you could have done better than the police in that video, under the same conditions, by coming out from behind cover and making a couple of 100 yard head shots with the available pistols, what exactly did you mean?

farglebargle -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 7:45:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle It's a valid argument, isn't it? How many children died at Columbine due to the Officers refusal to take the chances needed to save them? How many of the 12 dead kids could have been saved? A valid question if phrased properly. "How many more people would have died needlessly if the police had ignored their training and policy, and rushed in to 'save the children'? It is an easy game for keyboard commandos to cherry pick their criticisms with hindsight, while using TV as an ideal basis for comparison of what police, firefighters, etc. 'shoulda-coulda-woulda' done. You can do better. Please don't group Firefighters with Cops. Cops are tools of The Man, whose role is to enforce the Class divisions. As such, I don't really care if cops die. They, like soldiers, are paid to die. If they have forgotten that, ( Or their UNION gets in the way of their Duty ) that's their problem. But, of course, I believe we have the 2nd Amendment SPECIFICALLY so we don't need Cops to protect us, so in essence, it's just keeping unemployables off the dole in an interesting way.

Real0ne -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 7:51:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alumbrado Anyone can read the posts and decide exactly what you said... ....apparently except for yourself ETA: If you didn't mean that you could have done better than the police in that video, under the same conditions, by coming out from behind cover and making a couple of 100 yard head shots with the available pistols, what exactly did you mean? you want to play this as coming out from cover is standing up on top of a car with a big red target on my freaking chest. What the hell is up with that, you seem to think people shoot like the brits used to where they all stand in a line and shoot each other. With that kind of approach why are you even in this conversation? i can certainly see why you think everythign is hollywood.

stef -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 8:21:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne simply because as usual you do not have a clue what went on there. You're right, I don't know what happened since you pulled your disappearing act and never explained why. Here's your chance to clear that up, sport. quote: as far as my calling is a clip again i DO NOT GIVE A FUCK get it? Of course you give a fuck. You wouldn't be frothing at the mouth like this if you didn't. So I suppose we can just chalk this up as another case of you talking out your ass and losing your temper when proven wrong yet again. Par for the course. ~stef

Real0ne -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 8:33:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne simply because as usual you do not have a clue what went on there. You're right, I don't know what happened since you pulled your disappearing act and never explained why. Here's your chance to clear that up, sport. quote: as far as my calling is a clip again i DO NOT GIVE A FUCK get it? Of course you give a fuck. You wouldn't be frothing at the mouth like this if you didn't. So I suppose we can just chalk this up as another case of you talking out your ass and losing your temper when proven wrong yet again. Par for the course. ~stef i dont recall making anything your business and since you do not know shit about what you are talking about then why are you opening your pie ho? I am glad we can agree that i am right. Losing my temper over a freaking computer screeen? i think not. Right now i am loading up my CLIP and for those of you who like stef cannot figure out how to interpret these intrinsically difficult constructs of language that means putting the bullet thingies in a magazine clip.

Owner59 -> RE: HATE CRIMES = thought policing? (7/11/2007 8:38:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: uwinceismile somehow, i knew you would make it about bush,,,,,rofl Ha! We all have our fetishes.. ; )

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