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MagiksSlave -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:02:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: akbarbarian quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHeart I have just read your profile where you say: "I also have Antisocial Personality Disorder which means I have no moral compass to speak of, and think in terms of what works or doesn't work rather than in terms of right and wrong. That means I can be sadistic, selfish, and disregard your rights entirely with no sense of guilt however I believe in proper care and feeding so I'm not destructive or reckless either. I have no criminal record, which is rare with my disorder. I am also likely to impose my beliefs on you as well as my will, so be prepared to yield up that moral compass for me to smash to bits. " This confirms to me that this is nothing about D/s and everything about your inability to comprehend normal family dynamics. It also explains to me your heartless comments about attitudes to death, which very few would share. I have to question whether you are really the right person to own a slave at all since the normal human criteria on which decisions are based are not open to you. :)) LH Exactly, people with this disorder do not belong beeing Masters, Im not beeing mean or calling him fake Im simply beeing realistic, he us useing beeing a Master as an easy way to fulfill the deamons that his disorder causes instead of getting treatment for it. The fact is these qualities do not a Master make in fact it is the very opposite. It seems he thinks beeing a Master means that he can be all these things without beeing questioned and there for is hideing behind the title Master. But in truth beeing a Master means you need to take care of another person they are intrusting there life to you surrendering and you cant safely surrander to a person who has these traits. Honestly it scares me and I feel the slave that has intrusted herself to him is in danger (this is my opinion as someone who does have psyc cradentials) A lot of things make a lot more sence to me (addmits she didnt read his ANTIRE profile just parts of it and this beeing pointed out makes things make a lot more sence) Magik's slave Do people who are bipolar belong beeing slaves? You stated that about your being bipolar before. If you're calling being a Master easy, I wonder how much realtime M/s experience you have... Yes Im Bipoler but unlike you I dont hide behind it in order to get what it is I want without reprocutions. Also My Bipoler is very under controll I have been off all meds for months with out any episodes at all and befor that have had it under controll since age 18, eather way me beeing bipoler has very little if any effect on my relationship and it hurts no one, You cant say the same thing, and you cant compare the 2 disorders it is rather different. All mental disorders are not created equal!! I didnt say people with mental disorders shouldnt be in the lifestyle just your perticulure one makes you a great canditate for abuser not Master (not saying that YOU are just that its a great possability in the future) Oh and I dont recall ever saying beeing a Master is easy... In all truth I worry for the mental (and maybe even physical) safety of your slave. Im not trying to be mean twords you please dont confuse me beeing honest here with haveing any malise for you, but I am very conserned. And for now I would apreaciate you taking this off the boards with me, my mail box on the other side is always open. Weather you wish to admit you are wrong and need help is up to you, but I can be of service, I do have psycological cradentials and I am only a few semesters away from my secent dagree in psyc so despite what you may think about me I do know what Im talking about!! Magik's slave

LadyHeart -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:04:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: akbarbarian I'm having her copy, by hand, this thread to then read it out loud to me. That will ensure everything has been gone over with a fine tooth comb, and that we both will have examined the situation in great detail. One thing I like about having a thread like this go up, is that even the points of view that are very unhappy with me or my methods give various points of objection a chance to be heard. I know when you're upset, it feels alot better to at least feel like you've been heard. By having 20+ people say what they didn't like about what I did or didn't do, it not only voices some conserns she may have thought of, but a few objections she didn't have the words for as well. This effectively defuses the situation, and my being aware of possible objections, it enables me to see what could be considered wrong in a given situation even if I'm still confident that I'm on the right course despite objections. Those who think I'm here to rant, whine, or get my back patted may not read this post. Even if they do, they may choose not to accept the meaning or the truth of it for their own reasons. Perhaps it's easier to believe I'm a villan, or that I'm shallow and lack the fiber required of me. Naysayers will not keep me from my course however, and those who have helped in any way, I again thank you. Now this makes sense, and well done! The reason you got a lot of hostile responses was because you missed out a vital piece of information in your OP - the fact that you have this personality disorder. If you'd said that right at the outset, you would have got more constructive replies. Your ability to have and keep a slave will depend on sometimes having to get objective outside views since your "vision" is skewed by your disorder. It will also depend upon her ability to "manage" the aspects of your disorder that impact negatively on her. That will take time and patience and may be more than she bargained for. She will also need support. You also said in your profile that you operate on what works and what doesn't - this would work, but you have to give people all the information before they can help you. :)) LH

MagiksSlave -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:06:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlackTarnHeart well you just reached one of them DUN DUN DUN.... Jees now this thread has gone all days of our lifeish on us!! Magik's slave

BlackTarnHeart -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:07:18 PM)
Hello DkJourney The girl he is speaking of i owned before him and discovered some secrets to why she does things but maybe he should message me off here to find out as i wont spread personal info in the open here.And yes it seems heis answers are pre arranged BTH

mistoferin -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:10:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlackTarnHeart well you just reached one of them Just how low can we go?

Driver1961 -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:13:25 PM)
He dips His lid to all: 'Like barbs from a cat o' nine, so are the days of Masters' lives.' Relationships in what ever format they are, are just that. Without due care and understanding on BOTH behalfs to understand each other, the relationship becomes unhealthy.

DrkJourney -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:14:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlackTarnHeart Hello DkJourney The girl he is speaking of i owned before him and discovered some secrets to why she does things but maybe he should message me off here to find out as i wont spread personal info in the open here.And yes it seems heis answers are pre arranged BTH Hello BlackTarnHeart! First let me apologise for that "blurb". It's just that I've been reading this thread for a while, and it just doesn't seem that he wants help, seems all he is looking for is debate, even if you agree with him, he takes the opposite opinion, and no matter what you say he seems to have an "answer" for everything. I don't know him, maybe I"m just reading it wrong, that's just the way it looks from this side, and from other posts I think others do as well I do hope that he does contact you on the other side and try to get some insight on all this so that they can handle this and move on with their relationship. I do wish them the best, because honestly from what I've seen of the two of them it kinda scares me.

AquaticSub -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:15:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: akbarbarian quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub But if I can't have a good relationship with my family, I will grow to resent him. Our relationship would crumble and fail because of his selfishness. I'm not out to isolate my slave, but, resentment belongs to the one doing the resenting. It's on you whether you resent him or not. It's about what kind of situation you do or don't want to be in, and how you choose to see it once it happens. Hey, I'm not a slave, I don't know all of the reasons one might want to be one. I do however know that being a slave means being unselfish, and resentment is about bereavement of the self. I also, on a side note, wonder if "serving the M/s dynamic" is a cop out for people in the dominant role who don't want to own up to being selfish and being the kink (freudian slip? I meant king.) who makes his own laws. Hey, let it never be said that I don't question my own motives or modes. Though...it'll still be said I'm sure [:D] Regardless, for every chair there is a derriere, and I'm not making anyone stay with me. I just yam what I yam. It is up to me if I resent him or not. It is also up to the man in charge if he acts relatively fairly to help avoid resentment. Doing something just because you can doesn't make for good policy. Some people like that. They are better suited with slaves who have no outside interests.

mistoferin -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:15:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlackTarnHeart Hello DkJourney The girl he is speaking of i owned before him and discovered some secrets to why she does things but maybe he should message me off here to find out as i wont spread personal info in the open here.And yes it seems heis answers are pre arranged BTH You won't share personal information but you will come on a public message board and refer to this girl as an "attitude in question" and offer to share your secrets that can only have come from a PERSONAL relationship with you. Beyond tacky! You said that "there are some out there that think there too good to look into the past to see if there is a pattern". It's not hard to see a pattern...the pattern seems to be that this girl makes piss poor choices in men.

akbarbarian -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:17:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DrkJourney sigh....maybe I'm just confused. I thought this was "one" instance where you simply made and arrangement and it didn't work out...now you are talking rules...what rule? So when you two first decided to be together you set a rule for this? I also confused as to why this is still going on, or why you even posted....you seem to have your mind made up, and only seem interested in those that oppose you....those are the ones that you seem to keep responding to. Maybe it's just me, but I figured if you really posted this for advice, which is something else I don't understand, she's your sub you should know what to do with her, without advice from the outside world....but anyway, you posted this for advice, yet those that give you the answers that you seek, those that agree with you, you barely acknowledge or don't answer at all. Now curiosity has gotten the better of me....what do you want out of all this? Slave disobey. Slave no should disobey! Slave disobey when it come to family. Slave sad. What Master do with slave when disobey with family? Master like rules. Master like slave. Master like slave and rules together!

DrkJourney -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:20:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin quote: ORIGINAL: BlackTarnHeart Hello DkJourney The girl he is speaking of i owned before him and discovered some secrets to why she does things but maybe he should message me off here to find out as i wont spread personal info in the open here.And yes it seems heis answers are pre arranged BTH You won't share personal information but you will come on a public message board and refer to this girl as an "attitude in question" and offer to share your secrets that can only have come from a PERSONAL relationship with you. Beyond tacky! You said that "there are some out there that think there too good to look into the past to see if there is a pattern". It's not hard to see a pattern...the pattern seems to be that this girl makes piss poor choices in men. Hmmm..I guess that is one way to look at it....I took it that he was going to talk to him and give him advice on his approach....I didn't think he was going to just spill her personal secrets....I thought maybe he would give direction on questions, on finding out about her past, so that he could hear it from "her". But as I said, I guess I could've read it wrong

MagiksSlave -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:21:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: akbarbarian quote: ORIGINAL: DrkJourney sigh....maybe I'm just confused. I thought this was "one" instance where you simply made and arrangement and it didn't work out...now you are talking rules...what rule? So when you two first decided to be together you set a rule for this? I also confused as to why this is still going on, or why you even posted....you seem to have your mind made up, and only seem interested in those that oppose you....those are the ones that you seem to keep responding to. Maybe it's just me, but I figured if you really posted this for advice, which is something else I don't understand, she's your sub you should know what to do with her, without advice from the outside world....but anyway, you posted this for advice, yet those that give you the answers that you seek, those that agree with you, you barely acknowledge or don't answer at all. Now curiosity has gotten the better of me....what do you want out of all this? Slave disobey. Slave no should disobey! Slave disobey when it come to family. Slave sad. What Master do with slave when disobey with family? Master like rules. Master like slave. Master like slave and rules together! OMG Im sorry i cant stop giggling!! but mostly because this is the most sence I have ever seen him make!!! Magik's slave

akbarbarian -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:21:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlackTarnHeart well you just reached one of them Jodi just pointed that out to me shortly before you responded. Pleased to make your aquaintance.

DrkJourney -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:22:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: akbarbarian quote: ORIGINAL: DrkJourney sigh....maybe I'm just confused. I thought this was "one" instance where you simply made and arrangement and it didn't work out...now you are talking rules...what rule? So when you two first decided to be together you set a rule for this? I also confused as to why this is still going on, or why you even posted....you seem to have your mind made up, and only seem interested in those that oppose you....those are the ones that you seem to keep responding to. Maybe it's just me, but I figured if you really posted this for advice, which is something else I don't understand, she's your sub you should know what to do with her, without advice from the outside world....but anyway, you posted this for advice, yet those that give you the answers that you seek, those that agree with you, you barely acknowledge or don't answer at all. Now curiosity has gotten the better of me....what do you want out of all this? Slave disobey. Slave no should disobey! Slave disobey when it come to family. Slave sad. What Master do with slave when disobey with family? Master like rules. Master like slave. Master like slave and rules together! hmmm..maybe the others were right and I was wrong about you. If this is the juvenile attitude you want to take, I do indeed feel sorry for her.

angelic -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:22:47 PM)
Stands up and applauds!!!

SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:23:52 PM)
i swear i am hearin banjo music in my head......the longer this thread gets, the louder the music gets.......

sublimelysensual -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:30:18 PM)
-tries to make this as short as possible- quote: ORIGINAL: akbarbarian I'm having her copy, by hand, this thread to then read it out loud to me. That will ensure everything has been gone over with a fine tooth comb, and that we both will have examined the situation in great detail. There are now almost 200 posts on this thread, my mouth dropped open at the thought of copying them all by hand. It would take days, if not weeks unless the only other thing You expect from her is sitting on her azz eating bon-bons and watching tv. Trying hard not to judge here, but I hope You've really thought this out... -a (who will post nothing else on the thread simply out of compassion)

viperess -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:31:25 PM)
Greetings, No tacky would be spreading personal things for all to see..Honor is talking Master to Master about things which might help in a relation. As one of BTH's slaves i will say He is a very honorable and fair Master and One i am proud not only to serve but to be owned by. i have been reading this thread and biting my tongue partly due to the fact so many condemn the OP for feeling He should punish or at the very least discipline His property for not communicating or obeying Him. Yes i realize many things have changed over the years that i have served but i did not realize one of them was weither a slave was to honor and obey her Master. But then again so many see BDSM as just a sexual kink and not a 24/7 way of life. Then again this is just this old slaves 2 cents.

favesclava -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:33:31 PM)
theres 2 problems here . the parties could have been worked on. disobedience is reason for punishment , what ever that may be. i can talk to my Master about everything. our visits are worked around our shedules. but it would never be allowed to disobey , say no , ignore a direct order. thats why he's the Master. if i had a choice then i wouldnt be a slave. maybe a talk about what is expected, what is allowed and what is not. then decide if both can live the decisions. i believe my Master would have listened and allowed me to stay. he would have gone to the part alone or with someone else. if i had refused a direct order he would come over take me home and i cant imagine what would happen next. if there are rules the slave must be aware of them and of the consequences of breaking them.the Master follows through in whichever way he decides. this is one instance where ignorance is an excuse.

akbarbarian -> RE: Being loyal to your word (7/8/2007 8:36:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sublimelysensual -tries to make this as short as possible- quote: ORIGINAL: akbarbarian I'm having her copy, by hand, this thread to then read it out loud to me. That will ensure everything has been gone over with a fine tooth comb, and that we both will have examined the situation in great detail. There are now almost 200 posts on this thread, my mouth dropped open at the thought of copying them all by hand. It would take days, if not weeks unless the only other thing You expect from her is sitting on her azz eating bon-bons and watching tv. Trying hard not to judge here, but I hope You've really thought this out... -a (who will post nothing else on the thread simply out of compassion) 1 page/day.

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