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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/10/2007 7:52:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww

you can think what I have said here makes me a fool, I don't care about you're opinion, in all honesty....if you want to talk about anything that is thought provoking or makes someone wonder....or facts that relate to anyone besides your personal experience (did I mention I don't care?)......I'm going to step out of the convo, because I have stated what I wanted to....


Well, at least he got one thing right.

I always love when I read an ever-so-dramatic declaration of leaving a thread. I try to make it a point to check back and see if they really will. About 90% of the time or more they just cannot help themselves and keep coming back.



Just goes to prove my point that such individuals are Lonely and Crave attention.. even if it's bad attention. 

Such behavior is actually common with several personality disorders.  I wonder sometimes if such individuals are more than just attention seekers.  If there is not something deeper burning that is bringing on such behaviors.

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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/10/2007 8:15:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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ROFLMAO, this is actually fun in a perverse way.    (I'm taking it as debating that they are doing)


yeah..  His buttons are very easy to push and very predictable.   I guess it's the sadist in me to push the buttons...

I just have to see how dumb a person will get when pushed... some just amaze me.


Well, I wouldn't define myself as a sadist, but I am into the social sciences, and human behavior fascinates me.  I love how when he can't defend himself he decides he just doesn't like what you said. 

Now we could do a study on people who get defensive when their ideas are attacked through rationality and respond with personal attacks.  He would be a great example.   

BTW, I loved your OP and thought it was a beautiful thing to share.  Thank you. 

(Edited would to wouldn't in the first paragraph)

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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/10/2007 8:16:55 PM   
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I think you either need to reread what was written, take a hard look at what "online" relationship is or stop drawing conclusions about something you know little about.  There are several people on this board who live across the US that can attest to the fact that our family does not have an "online" relationship.  It is very much flesh to flesh. 

Knight's Kyra 

LOL seriously.  An obscenly long distance relationship with exccedingly different dynamics from a live in and more growing pains ahead of it than I EVER want to contemplate...but it's definitely flesh.

But then, we already knew that.

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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/10/2007 8:17:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww

"When you're in the throes of this romantic love it's overwhelming, you're out of control, you're irrational, you're going to the gym at 6 a.m. every day - why? Because she's there," said Dr. Helen Fisher, an anthropologist at Rutgers University and the co-author of the analysis. "And when rejected, some people contemplate stalking, homicide, suicide. This drive for romantic love can be stronger than the will to live."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/31/health/psychology/31love.html?ex=1275192000&en=9db08ac71c58c4c3&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss - source

What I was saying was this type of new love, which they also refer to as romantic love, cannot last forever, its not healthy, and has a time limit of 18 months....




For some reason you have latched onto the idea, like a pit bull that KoM has this kind of obsessive love for his two girls.  i personally did not see that written in his op.   The love you quoted above is not love at all - it is dysfunctional, probably experienced by people who are so afraid to be alone they would do anything to keep a partner rather than be alone.  If my gut instincts are right i think you are a very lonely fellow, who hasn't experienced any kind of love committment and it scares the bejesus out of you.  You think love will make you loose control and you can't fathom not having and retaining control at all costs.  Just the fact that you don't want to share any info about yourself personally speaks to that issue. 

This whole thread has gotten to the point everyones feathers are so ruffled there's no way to have a rational conversation and reach any kind of reasonable consession of pov's.  LIke so many threads it didn't have to reach this point.  i implore wwkevinww, in a day or so when your emotions have simered down to go back and re read this entire thread and perhaps you will walk away with a different perspective.  You took an instant dislike to a man who's only fault lies in the fact that he spoke very poignantly about his girls.  ihope one day you experience love in all it's depth and not just the surface needy, clingly quality that so many people exploit it for. It can be a breath taking experience.  Embrace the possibility and good luck.

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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/10/2007 8:35:12 PM   
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First.. I just wanted to say what a great post...

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

I always find it interesting when someone tries to take something as abstract as love and then tear up what others have discovered about it in their lives by bringing in "facts" about love. 


Isn't it thou

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I did a search called simply "facts about love" and I found this page...http://reference.aol.com/fast-facts/science/_a/fast-facts-about-love/20060208114009990001

Note that it talks about genes that may indicate a cheating heart, men's sweat arousing women, and that there may be some truth to "aphrodisiacs".  But those are biological aspects of love.

Then this page...http://msn.match.com/msn/article.aspx?articleid=5946  It features such tidbits as the fact that our brains prefer people with "familiar" faces,  that "you'll know it when you see it",  and that love makes us "crazy".


not much for facts of love is there??  But really is that very surprizing... I suspect you didn't think there was going to be much

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There are similar articles that pop up on the first page, and several pages after, when searching about "facts about love".  What I noted is that when it came down to the emotion that we call love, there was nothing or very little.  Because love, in my opinion and in many of those here, is an abstract concept that we can think about, we can feel, we can even gather others' opinions about but which is hard to put down in a defined, factual way.  Because for all the ways we experience love in a like manner, we all experience it in our own unique way.


I agree.. it's very abstract.... An early post made comment that it's complex and been troubling the best minds.  However, In my thought process.. it's not really that complex.  It's not so because I am not trying to define it for others... Not my girls.. Not my children, Not anyone.... Just for myself. 

I do not profess to say that my love is the way to love.  But this is how I love, what I love, when I love, where I love, why I love.  Maybe in sharing my views on love it might help some along their own journey of discovering and living a life with love in it.  Just as when others share their personal views of love... I just might gain some insight that will help me along my own journey.  That is not to say my view of love in my life will help anyone or that any specific person will help me.. but it is always a possibility.

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Polyamory is something that fascinates me also, as it does another writer on here and, I'm fairly certain, many who are reading this thread and yet do not reply.  I do not think I have the nature for it and I do not think that it makes me any less because I do not just as I do not think it makes those whose nature allows for polyamory to be any less or more than me.  It shows once again that love fits "us" in the way it fits "us" best. 


I agree that it doesn't make anyone less or more being poly or mono.  

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I agree that it is possible to have a D/s relationship without being in love with a submissive and have stated so in the past.  I do not think it is possible to have an ongoing, intimate, intense D/s relationship for any length of time without there being some sort of love involved.   Liking someone only carries the relationship along so far.  To build deep trust and faith in someone, you must at least love that person even if you are not in love with them.  For some, for that trust to be built further, then being in love does come into play. 


I shared your reservation about a D/s existing in the long-term without love.  But, of late.. I have been formulatings thoughts that might make it possible but highly unlikely.  It is also dependent on how a person defines love.  There is much more thought yet to come on this subject.  But, I am resolved to open my mind to the possibility... even thou.. I myself would never have a power dynamic of that type.

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I too have read of the concepts of "Romantic Love" and "Conditional Love" and "Staying-Power Love" and on and on.  The main idea that seems to be brought out in writing about these is how one type of love cannot exist within the framework of another type of love.  I disagree...there were times when the love I felt for my partner was more of one then it was of another and yet, there was more than one type of love existing within the framework of our relationship.


Science.. be it Hard or Soft.. dont like foggy lines... so it's not surprizing that they spout these dividing lines.  However, go to the Arts..... where foggy lines seem to be embraced and we see that love gets painted with a different picture.

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I love my first submissive.  She was and is a special part of my life.  That does not stop me from being able to love another.  Similar to Tigress but up by one, there are only two people in my life that I have loved for which there is little to no love left.  I cannot explain fully why that happened anymore than I can fully explain why there is still love for the others in my life.  The facts do not support the love in many of these instances...but it is there. 


Because Love is not Facts in my opinion.. it's our internal perception of how we see our relationships.  All we can do is expect to express this perception to another... it maybe believed.. it may not.  Regardless if it's believed or not.. it still is our perception.

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I am a great believer in soft and hard science...but I hope that I am intelligent enough to question what does not seem right within those sciences and romantic/emotional/loving enough to understand that not everything can be explained in a scientific manner...and once again, intelligent enough to believe that it does not have to be.


Science said the world was flat.

Science said the earth is at the center of the universe.

If it can be so wrong with regards to the physical.. how can we begin to be blindly listening to science when it talks about Love.


Once again.. great post

< Message edited by KnightofMists -- 7/10/2007 8:39:18 PM >


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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/10/2007 8:53:09 PM   
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On a postive note.....

I wish to thank everyone that have made some really gracious compliments with regards to the OP.  I honestly didn't consider it all that special.  I suppose about 95% of the entire OP is from bits and pieces of threads I have posted over the past couple years.  The greatest amout of time to write the OP was actually coping and pasting these posts into one.  Alittle editting and out comes my view that I have been consistently saying for some time.

Again thank for you thoughts shared.  I hope it helped some gain alittle insight in their own journey... as so many have open a door or two for me.


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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/10/2007 10:10:21 PM   
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I cannot believe Madrabbit is trying to correct my grammar.  you don't even say what you really mean, you miss "next" sentence in what I quoted.....

"We have sentences in the English language so we can express a single train of thought completely, not so we can express one thing and then in the sentence, express the complete opposite."


In case you're clueless, which you are, next is needed to actually say what you mean.....

you highlighted  Lol, as the L was not appropriate, every time you start a new sentence, it should start with a capital...."

I don't care about grammar, and know I say your when I mean you're, but I also know what I mean, and when I say "IF SO" in the next sentence, its because I'm not interested in giving fuel to the flaming.

I generally don't bother to ask questions of those I'm insulting or trying to insult, because there isn't much point.  It shows a pretty inane quality to think your tricking anyone, or that I would share personal info so you could insult me....

I find it amusing that the moderator is allowing only one sided flaming......-worse, I find it distasteful to destroy or edit my thoughts, and therefore do not particular like moderators.....

there are alot of idiots walking around on this planet, and I can see several when they attempt to attack me, try to refute what I say, and do so with NO facts to back them up, no evidence, and try to say my logic or information is lacking....

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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/10/2007 11:08:42 PM   
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I shared your reservation about a D/s existing in the long-term without love.  But, of late.. I have been formulatings thoughts that might make it possible but highly unlikely.  It is also dependent on how a person defines love.  There is much more thought yet to come on this subject.  But, I am resolved to open my mind to the possibility... even thou.. I myself would never have a power dynamic of that type.


What defines long term? We are over 7 years, just got married and he doesn't define how he feels about me as love. He cares for me deeply and I love him. I guess he could of kicked me to the curb because he didn't fall in love with me but I for one am very happy that "deeply caring" for me is enough for him. When people say they never would have a power dynamic of that type..I wonder what is the cut off number of months you spend with a person before you decide to cut them loose because you don't love them or they don't love you? Before we knew it 3-4 years had sped by in what is an incredible relationship to both of us and to my kiddo...Neither of us wanted to walk away back then, it wasn't even really thinkable. Since then that feeling has only grown on both out parts. You don't walk away from the person and home you have waited your whole life for. I'll probably never hear him say "I love you"...you don't throw away people or relationships that are healthy, happy, productive, and intimate over it.

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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/11/2007 2:17:32 AM   
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what bothers me about what the OP said in the opening to this entire thread was that is what just alot of bullshit.....

In his everyday life, he doesn't get overly philosophical when he does normal activities.   If he is talking to women, and wants to dazzle them and make their eyes glaze over, he can say shit like that and make them  think he is actually saying something.....

He's self delusional.....bullshitting himself and others.....

There are alot of mental perspectives, and obviously I'm over the mental perspective of taking the "high road" because this isn't from that perspective....

There is a reason why I don't like what he said, and it is not so much the content in that it is that he is saying its his thoughts, but its not original....he's borrowed original thoughts and claimed them as his own.....

I'm curious which book or books he plagarized these from, or if he even realizes which ones.....(self delusional because probably doesn't even realize what he is doing)......


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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/11/2007 2:33:21 AM   
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Just goes to prove my point that such individuals are Lonely and Crave attention.. even if it's bad attention. 

Such behavior is actually common with several personality disorders.  I wonder sometimes if such individuals are more than just attention seekers.  If there is not something deeper burning that is bringing on such behaviors.


Why is everything a personality disorder these days? Why can't people just be assholes without assigning some mental illness boogeyman to cover their twittishness?



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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/11/2007 4:01:43 AM   
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LOL seriously.  An obscenly long distance relationship with exccedingly different dynamics from a live in and more growing pains ahead of it than I EVER want to contemplate...but it's definitely flesh.

But then, we already knew that.


LOL  You know, three years ago if someone had told me that not only would I contemplate this but actually decide to do it, I would have said they were nuts.  But I am insanely happy and more content than I have ever been.  We must be doing something right  *s*

And this weekend will be flesh to flesh once more... 

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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/11/2007 5:15:29 AM   
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Why is everything a personality disorder these days?



who say everything is???

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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/11/2007 5:26:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

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I shared your reservation about a D/s existing in the long-term without love.  But, of late.. I have been formulatings thoughts that might make it possible but highly unlikely.  It is also dependent on how a person defines love.  There is much more thought yet to come on this subject.  But, I am resolved to open my mind to the possibility... even thou.. I myself would never have a power dynamic of that type.


What defines long term? We are over 7 years, just got married and he doesn't define how he feels about me as love. He cares for me deeply and I love him. I guess he could of kicked me to the curb because he didn't fall in love with me but I for one am very happy that "deeply caring" for me is enough for him. When people say they never would have a power dynamic of that type..I wonder what is the cut off number of months you spend with a person before you decide to cut them loose because you don't love them or they don't love you? Before we knew it 3-4 years had speed by in what is an incredible relationship to both of us and to my kiddo...Neither of us wanted to walk away back then, it wasn't even really thinkable. Since then that feeling has only grown on both out parts. You don't walk away from the person and home you have waited your whole life for. I'll probably never hear him say "I love you"...you don't throw away people or relationships that are healthy, happy, productive, and intimate over it.


You know its just poor etiquette to quote someone from another thread Without indicating that it comes from another thread and not the current thread people are reading.

So people know where the quote came from ----  http://www.collarchat.com/m_1085614/mpage_3/tm.htm

It's an excellent thread in the Ask a Master  called  "Male Dominants: Love & Romance"... It's an excellent thread with some great discussion.


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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/11/2007 6:25:27 AM   
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I cannot believe Madrabbit is trying to correct my grammar.  you don't even say what you really mean, you miss "next" sentence in what I quoted.....

"We have sentences in the English language so we can express a single train of thought completely, not so we can express one thing and then in the sentence, express the complete opposite."


In case you're clueless, which you are, next is needed to actually say what you mean.....

you highlighted  Lol, as the L was not appropriate, every time you start a new sentence, it should start with a capital...."

I don't care about grammar, and know I say your when I mean you're, but I also know what I mean, and when I say "IF SO" in the next sentence, its because I'm not interested in giving fuel to the flaming.

I generally don't bother to ask questions of those I'm insulting or trying to insult, because there isn't much point.  It shows a pretty inane quality to think your tricking anyone, or that I would share personal info so you could insult me....

I find it amusing that the moderator is allowing only one sided flaming......-worse, I find it distasteful to destroy or edit my thoughts, and therefore do not particular like moderators.....

there are alot of idiots walking around on this planet, and I can see several when they attempt to attack me, try to refute what I say, and do so with NO facts to back them up, no evidence, and try to say my logic or information is lacking....


I'm not flaming, I wish you all the best.  And it hasn't been one-sided; you've attacked a man's post about his own relationships and feelings and you know nothing about them.  I'm saying what you've said lacks any form of citation, or any convincing proof of what you've claimed.  I'll even say you might be right; I haven't done any real research on the topic.  I'd have to spend way too much of my time wading through peer-reviewed journals for my taste.  And I don't care enough about the topic of romantic love to bother.  Self-help books are not facts, and I do not find them interesting or enlightening as more than opinion, and I rarely waste my time on such drivel. 

I personally believe that human emotion is beyond setting everything in nice neat little boxes.  And emotions are really above qualifying and quantifying, in my own personal opinion.  Maybe that is why I've never cared for psychology; give me anthropology any day.  And I'm sure many agree with me.  And sharing one's feelings in regards to a matter, even if it's been said before by some random stranger, is not plagiarism. 

And what information have you provided?  That article would hold no weight in academia.  They might say it is an interesting start to a study, but they would say that it needs more work before it would really be considered.  I've tried telling you that and I told you where you could look to find a lot of information on qualifying a professional and rigorous study.  Since you stated your hypothesis, the ball is in your court to defend.  I have seen no proof, just something that you remember.  I'm an academic at heart, and I dislike people totting facts that people might believe without evidence.  If you can't prove your fact then withdraw it as fact.  Simple as that, no harm no foul. 

As for the grammar comment, I wasn't going to make it, even though it was bugging me.  But you both missed it, and since y'all wanted to focus on grammar I thought I'd turn in a lesson.  I like to teach, can't you tell?  LOL.  Honestly though, don't take my attack on what you've written here personally.  I was hoping you would see my point, and since you were totting science on your side, I thought I would illustrate your error in regards to science.   

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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/11/2007 7:48:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

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I shared your reservation about a D/s existing in the long-term without love.  But, of late.. I have been formulatings thoughts that might make it possible but highly unlikely.  It is also dependent on how a person defines love.  There is much more thought yet to come on this subject.  But, I am resolved to open my mind to the possibility... even thou.. I myself would never have a power dynamic of that type.


What defines long term? We are over 7 years, just got married and he doesn't define how he feels about me as love. He cares for me deeply and I love him. I guess he could of kicked me to the curb because he didn't fall in love with me but I for one am very happy that "deeply caring" for me is enough for him. When people say they never would have a power dynamic of that type..I wonder what is the cut off number of months you spend with a person before you decide to cut them loose because you don't love them or they don't love you? Before we knew it 3-4 years had speed by in what is an incredible relationship to both of us and to my kiddo...Neither of us wanted to walk away back then, it wasn't even really thinkable. Since then that feeling has only grown on both out parts. You don't walk away from the person and home you have waited your whole life for. I'll probably never hear him say "I love you"...you don't throw away people or relationships that are healthy, happy, productive, and intimate over it.


You know its just poor etiquette to quote someone from another thread Without indicating that it comes from another thread and not the current thread people are reading.

So people know where the quote came from ----  http://www.collarchat.com/m_1085614/mpage_3/tm.htm

It's an excellent thread in the Ask a Master  called  "Male Dominants: Love & Romance"... It's an excellent thread with some great discussion.



No, it is NOT from another thread. It is from this thread. A few posts up in response to CreativeDominant..what are you talking about? It came from this thread..and in your first post to this thread you also said the following:

quote:

Frankly, I find it difficult to comprehend how anyone can have an intimate BDSM relationship without love being an important part of that relationship. I suppose it is done, but I have not seen it done successful over a course of many years.


Which is why I posted what I did after you said it again a few posts up to CreativeDominant, possible but highly unlikely.

If it had been from the other thread I wouldn't have quoted it or answered it here.

But thanks for the lesson in ettiquette..


 




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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/11/2007 10:47:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

If it had been from the other thread I wouldn't have quoted it or answered it here.


oops am I red.... getting the two threads mixed up... shouldn't be surprizing... I keep getting Kyra and Alandra mixed up too

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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/11/2007 10:58:56 AM   
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*sniffs*
 
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Envy sure causes a person to be very ugly in their behavior... as well refusing to accept responsibility for that behavior in the first place.

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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/11/2007 11:04:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww

I find it amusing that the moderator is allowing only one sided flaming......-worse, I find it distasteful to destroy or edit my thoughts, and therefore do not particular like moderators.....


I suspect you don't particularly like anyone that disagrees with you or doesn't do what you want.   Interestly, individuals that can't accept that others will not agree with them or do what they want have difficulty maintaining any type of intimate relationship and usually end up being alone.

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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/11/2007 11:08:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: velvetears
For some reason you have latched onto the idea, like a pit bull that KoM has this kind of obsessive love for his two girls.  i personally did not see that written in his op.  


Often this type of situation tells us more about the pit bull than it does the person they are latched on to. 

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RE: Love within Authority Dynamics - 7/11/2007 11:10:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lapresence
Now we could do a study on people who get defensive when their ideas are attacked through rationality and respond with personal attacks.  He would be a great example.   


becareful... He's not going to like you with statements like this.

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