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ORIGINAL: lapresence

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww

okay, I typed in "case study romantic love" into yahoo, the 4th one down came to this http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/31/health/psychology/31love.html?ex=1275192000&en=9db08ac71c58c4c3&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
and relates specfically to support what I have said......

Watching New Love as It Sears the Brain

Thanks for the article.  Although it still didn't discuss the facts you claimed earlier.  An interesting read, to say the least.  However, now I'm going to pick it apart from someone who has a background in the social sciences.  I have a degree in anthropology and had to take social research methods for that degree.  The authors of my text were psychologists. 

1)  That article is not a case study at all. 

2)  17 as a sample size is way too small to have any real bearing on anything.  The experiment is not statistically significant.  The idea is to repeat the same experiment (not a similar one) over and over in an effort to disprove those findings. 

Note, I'm not saying that the results are invalid, but they need to be tested again and again with larger sample sizes to make it anything resembling a fact. 

You still haven't convinced me that what you said were facts were so.  And I illustrated a case that I have witnessed that still resembles the infatuated, romantic love that you spoke of.  There is an article on WebMD that says men can't be bisexual.  I know bisexual men.  That article also lacked a large enough sample size, and I found their methodology lacking in proving their case.  

Thanks again. 

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww

"When you're in the throes of this romantic love it's overwhelming, you're out of control, you're irrational, you're going to the gym at 6 a.m. every day - why? Because she's there," said Dr. Helen Fisher, an anthropologist at Rutgers University and the co-author of the analysis. "And when rejected, some people contemplate stalking, homicide, suicide. This drive for romantic love can be stronger than the will to live."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/31/health/psychology/31love.html?ex=1275192000&en=9db08ac71c58c4c3&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss - source

What I was saying was this type of new love, which they also refer to as romantic love, cannot last forever, its not healthy, and has a time limit of 18 months....

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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

You know what kevin, I think most of us get that you think romantic love is obsessive, compulsive, unhealthy, short lived, and can lead someone to commit felonies.  But guess what... that isn't how everyone defines romantic love.  In fact, I say that has little to do with loving someone else and a lot to do with just getting a fix however you can.

I can say this because in my past I have felt this obsession and I know what I feel now.  What I felt in the past wasn't love; it was lust and a crave to get a fix.  What I have now is love.  It is clear that you don't get the kind of love that the three of us share.  Hopefully one day in your life you will experience it and realize that what you are calling love doesn't even come close.

Knight's Kyra

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww

"When you're in the throes of this romantic love it's overwhelming, you're out of control, you're irrational, you're going to the gym at 6 a.m. every day - why? Because she's there," said Dr. Helen Fisher, an anthropologist at Rutgers University and the co-author of the analysis. "And when rejected, some people contemplate stalking, homicide, suicide. This drive for romantic love can be stronger than the will to live."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/31/health/psychology/31love.html?ex=1275192000&en=9db08ac71c58c4c3&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss - source

What I was saying was this type of new love, which they also refer to as romantic love, cannot last forever, its not healthy, and has a time limit of 18 months....

That article didn't mention 18 months.  I read it.  Also, people have died and killed over love.  And generally that is from people who have been together longer than that.  Your logic doesn't follow. 

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww

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ORIGINAL: lapresence

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww

okay, I typed in "case study romantic love" into yahoo, the 4th one down came to this http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/31/health/psychology/31love.html?ex=1275192000&en=9db08ac71c58c4c3&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
and relates specfically to support what I have said......

Watching New Love as It Sears the Brain

Thanks for the article.  Although it still didn't discuss the facts you claimed earlier.  An interesting read, to say the least.  However, now I'm going to pick it apart from someone who has a background in the social sciences.  I have a degree in anthropology and had to take social research methods for that degree.  The authors of my text were psychologists. 

1)  That article is not a case study at all. 

2)  17 as a sample size is way too small to have any real bearing on anything.  The experiment is not statistically significant.  The idea is to repeat the same experiment (not a similar one) over and over in an effort to disprove those findings. 

Note, I'm not saying that the results are invalid, but they need to be tested again and again with larger sample sizes to make it anything resembling a fact. 

You still haven't convinced me that what you said were facts were so.  And I illustrated a case that I have witnessed that still resembles the infatuated, romantic love that you spoke of.  There is an article on WebMD that says men can't be bisexual.  I know bisexual men.  That article also lacked a large enough sample size, and I found their methodology lacking in proving their case.  

Thanks again. 

I think it was a bunch of case studies.  Your trying to say that only statistics or a large enough sample sides makes things facts? 

the point of bringing up that article was that it defined what I was trying to say is romantic love...

If your with a person beyond new love, it moves into another type of love....

obviously I hadn't really realized what irked me so much about what he was saying, until later...

he's just bullshitting and people are buying it......

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1. Either you are incapable of using the English language to communicate since you chose to make a declaration about yourself then try and turn it into a conditional in the next breath. (Edited to add :) We have sentences in the English language so we can express a single train of thought completely, not so we can express one thing and then in the sentence, express the complete opposite. What would you say if I said... "Your an idiot. Now if I choose to call you an idiot.."

or

2. You are trying to exploit a hole created by your own horribly, erroneous grammar skills.

As for the rest of your post...

I dont think I need to say anything.

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww

you need to realize that statistics are often misrepresented.  Statistics that your trying to bring into this conversation is irrelevant....

there are different types of love.  obviously I'm not going to dispute that its possible to love someone for longer than 18 months, and find it idiotic so many people think I really believe you cannot love someone beyond 18 months.....

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

1. Either you are incapable of using the English language to communicate since you chose to make a declaration about yourself then try and turn it into a conditional in the next breath. (Edited to add :) We have sentences in the English language so we can express a single train of thought completely, not so we can express one thing and then in the sentence, express the complete opposite. What would you say if I said... "Your an idiot. Now if I choose to call you an idiot.."

or

2. You are trying to exploit a hole created by your own horribly, erroneous grammar skills.

As for the rest of your post...

I dont think I need to say anything.

My grammar skills are horrible?  lol 

what I said is simliar to your doctor telling you your going to die, then when you look shocked, he says NOT....you really think your going to die still?

your entire 1. idea has too many faults....we have sentences so we say something and cannot refute it....like what I just said with the doctor above?

"We have sentences in the English language so we can express a single train of thought completely, not so we can express one thing and then in the sentence, express the complete opposite."

I think its pretty obvious my language skills are better than yours....I have a dislike for ignorance....

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww

My grammar skills are horrible?  Lol 

What I said is similiar to your doctor telling you that your going to die, then when you look shocked, he says, "NOT." Do you really think that your still going to die?

Your entire first idea has too many faults. We have sentences so we say something, but cannot refute it. However, what I just said above with the doctor disproves that.

"We have sentences in the English language so we can express a single train of thought completely, not so we can express one thing and then in the sentence, express the complete opposite."

I think, its pretty obvious my language skills are better than yours. I have a dislike for ignorance....

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

1. Either you are incapable of using the English language to communicate since you chose to make a declaration about yourself then try and turn it into a conditional in the next breath. (Edited to add :) We have sentences in the English language so we can express a single train of thought completely, not so we can express one thing and then in the sentence, express the complete opposite. What would you say if I said... "Your an idiot. Now if I choose to call you an idiot.."

or

2. You are trying to exploit a hole created by your own horribly, erroneous grammar skills.

As for the rest of your post...

I dont think I need to say anything.

My grammar skills are horrible?  lol 

what I said is simliar to your doctor telling you your going to die, then when you look shocked, he says NOT....you really think your going to die still?

your entire 1. idea has too many faults....we have sentences so we say something and cannot refute it....like what I just said with the doctor above?

"We have sentences in the English language so we can express a single train of thought completely, not so we can express one thing and then in the sentence, express the complete opposite."

I think its pretty obvious my language skills are better than yours....I have a dislike for ignorance....

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww

My grammar skills are horrible?  Lol 

What I said is similiar to your doctor telling you that your going to die, then when you look shocked, he says, "NOT." Do you really think that your still going to die?

Your entire first idea has too many faults. We have sentences so we say something, but cannot refute it. However, what I just said above with the doctor disproves that.

"We have sentences in the English language so we can express a single train of thought completely, not so we can express one thing and then in the sentence, express the complete opposite."

I think, its pretty obvious my language skills are better than yours. I have a dislike for ignorance....

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww
....I have a dislike for ignorance....

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinwwI'm not disputing that you have love, , just that its not obsessive

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I think your kidding yourself when you talk about love, and are instead compassionate......this is to the OP 

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...and its not as high of quality as if it was a monogomous relationship....its not the only type of love...and if you believe your in love, fine.....

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There are different ways to express your love, and one of them is keeping someone in your thoughts....

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its hard, to love more than one because like I have said before, your timesharing....theoretically imagine if you were sharing your man with 48 other women, how much do you think you would be in his thoughts?  obviously your bisexual and enjoy the dynamic your in, and don't mind lessening the love with one to experience some from another.....

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ORIGINAL: lapresence
Well, yeah.  Or I wouldn't have said it.  The sample (17 people) is supposed to represent humanity?   

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ROFLMAO, this is actually fun in a perverse way.    (I'm taking it as debating that they are doing)