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philosophy -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 9:53:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SardonicAss If I had a 4x4, I'd pull up onto the curb too, I don't care. .......and as the mother with the infant in a pram has to walk in the road and is knocked over and killed, you wont care then either?

RealBlackGoddess -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:00:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: proudsub quote: i've always wondered why people get massively wound about violating a handicapped parking space, but not a handicapped toilet stall. After all, usually the need to use the toilet is a lot more urgent than the need to park a car... I always use the handicapped stall, I need the rail to help me get up with a bad knee and bad hip. Someone once told me that was reserved for wheelchairs as I limped off. At home we have a riser on the seat. I parked in a handicap spot once "only for a few minutes". I got ticketed and paid my fine. Lesson learned. I use the handicap stall because it's much more room to...err..navigate when you're overweight. Of course, if there were someone less abled than myself waiting, I would gladly defer.

ElectraGlide -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:06:16 AM)
We got a bunch of lazy-asses at work, that park in the handicap parking, because it is a shorter walk. They are C-list employees , and they are undiagnosed mentally handicapped, I told them that. They did not like it.

LotusSong -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:10:33 AM)
S ASS: you write: I think being up close to a building helps with EVERYONE'S security, not just the handicapped. When my mom goes to work (when she's not off for 6 weeks with surgery recovery) her assigned space is like 3 blocks away from where she works. ZERO security there. I think it's rediculous that a 55+ year old woman is shuttled out to a desolate area, far from witnesses, to get into her vehicle just because she 'can walk.' Obviously she sees a doctor, does it not EVER cross your's or hers mind to ask the doctor for a slip to GET a permit? Even if the thought occurs to you after you leave the office, CALL the doctor's office and ASK about it. I hear there is this thing called "mail:" where they can send it directly to her house. There is a temporary permit for those that are only temporarily incapacitated. Maybe you are so upset because you don't know how to get one. Here's the info- act on it. (I'm ready for the "I don't have time excuse". You MAKE time. If that's the case.. save your pennies for the fines) No excuses.. NEXT! (this is like shooting fish in a barrel)

SweetAndInnocent -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:10:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia quote: Is that something issued by the state? Here in Michigan you are not allowed to park in a handicapped parking spot, even with a state issued DAV plate, unless your disability is certified to impair your ability to walk. not taking anything away from VETs, but i think they should do that in every state. they should also crack down on those people that aren't physically disabled, take away their placards/plates. It's not fair that just about anyone can get one...with the right doctor. I agree with you so much on this. That is MY rant when it comes to handicapped parking spaces. My best friend is a dwarf. She can walk just fine. Can climb up on a barstool to drink too. Yet, she has a handicapped tag, allowing her the "convience" of parking. I fully believe it is things that that , which lead to others not respecting handicapped spaces.

michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:17:21 AM)
i also think that, after a set amout of fines and tows, a repeat violator of not only the handicapped parking, but the illegal firelane parking as well, the person should have their license revoked

LotusSong -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:17:50 AM)
RBG. Again, if you have a doctor, ask if you would qualify for a special permit because of your obesity. If it is caused by a condition beyond your control and not self-inflicted, you might be able to get one. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. It will save you a headache in the long run.

michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:20:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong S ASS: you write: I think being up close to a building helps with EVERYONE'S security, not just the handicapped. When my mom goes to work (when she's not off for 6 weeks with surgery recovery) her assigned space is like 3 blocks away from where she works. ZERO security there. I think it's rediculous that a 55+ year old woman is shuttled out to a desolate area, far from witnesses, to get into her vehicle just because she 'can walk.' Obviously she sees a doctor, does it not EVER cross your's or hers mind to ask the doctor for a slip to GET a permit? Even if the thought occurs to you after you leave the office, CALL the doctor's office and ASK about it. I hear there is this thing called "mail:" where they can send it directly to her house. There is a temporary permit for those that are only temporarily incapacitated. Maybe you are so upset because you don't know how to get one. Here's the info- act on it. (I'm ready for the "I don't have time excuse". You MAKE time. If that's the case.. save your pennies for the fines) No excuses.. NEXT! (this is like shooting fish in a barrel) tell it like it is LotusSong, Ma'am <grinz>

LotusSong -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:22:30 AM)
S Ass writes: <<and every handicapped person doesn't need to be rescued.>> Tell that to your momma.

michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:24:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong S Ass writes: <<and every handicapped person doesn't need to be rescued.>> Tell that to your momma. OMG. did he really just say that? that's so coldhearted and cruel. wait until he becomes disabled, will anyone save him?

philosophy -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:25:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong S Ass writes: <<and every handicapped person doesn't need to be rescued.>> Tell that to your momma. OMG. did he really just say that? that's so coldhearted and cruel. wait until he becomes disabled, will anyone save him? .......he's already disabled, perceptually at least. However i cross my fingers and hope it's merely temporary

michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:26:54 AM)
do they give disability to the terminally ignorant?

lotusblue -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:35:02 AM)
i am handicapped. i have a placard for when i ride with others and handicapped plates on my car. i do not, however LOOK like i am disabled and have many times been given grief about this. i had spinal cord cancer 4 times (so far) and standing, sitting, and walking are all painful for me. some days are better than others, but by parking in a handicapped spot i am often able to PREVENT having my pain get so bad it is no longer controllable by the many medications i take daily just to deal with pain. just because a person LOOKS fine, or even WALKS fine at that moment it does not mean they do not NEED that parking space. no one can see the scars on my back just looking at me, nor can they tell from looking that i have almost no feeling below the waist. in my state (georgia) a doctor's certificaton is required to get these plates and placards, and they must be renewed with a new certification every 2 to 4 years. believe it or not, doctors do not pass these things out like lolipops either!

mistoferin -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:41:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong Again, if you have a doctor, ask if you would qualify for a special permit because of your obesity. If it is caused by a condition beyond your control and not self-inflicted, you might be able to get one. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. It will save you a headache in the long run. Wow, are you serious? Only people who had no part in their disability should qualify? Is the motorcyclist who is hit in an intersection and paralyzed less deserving because he was undertaking in an activity that carried more risk? What about a skateboarder? A survivor of a suicide attempt? Someone with AIDS? Did I misunderstand?

LotusSong -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:49:30 AM)
Lotusblue (nice name, BTW :) ) I/we agree with you. We've covered that issue in the several pages of this thread. My focus is on those with nothing on their vehicle indicating HC status. General comment here: I just got off the phone with MVD here in Phoenix. I asked them if there are other ways to get your placard and plate without having to go down to the MVD and here is what she said: YES. You need the MVD form and you get it by either- actually going down to the MVD OR calling and having them send one to your home OR downloading it by your computer from their website. You then take this form TO your DOCTOR (don't try to forge it, they are wise to that) who will fill it out for you and you then either Take it down to the MVD and upon presentation you will get both plate and placard or you mail it in and they will SEND your plate and placard to your home. So there goes the "no time to go to the MVD" excuse.

lilsubl -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:51:51 AM)
LotusSong: thank you for this topic...i don't need nor do i use the HC spaces, but it's a subject dear to my heart...i don't even park in the non-handicapped spaces which are near the doors of a business because someone who has difficulty walking distances might need those...while my foot was broken, i needed to be closer to the entrances & i also needed to use the electric carts for shopping inside the stores...it's the kind of break that they don't immobilize, so it wasn't a visible disability, except that i would limp...i found that most people were very kind & helpful to me...i also shop at a store where there are "elderly" spots next to the HC spaces & i use those when i'm in a lot of pain & can't walk far or easily, since at 61 i do qualify for those... i think that the real issue for me is that a lot of people are so self-involved that there is little empathy or compassion shown to others...if people could put themselves into a headspace where they could understand others' difficulties in life & then act in a way that would ease those difficulties, we would all be so much happier...when i help someone who needs it, i feel better & so do they...so i guess i do it out of selfishness a bit: because it lightens my day & my life.....

LotusSong -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 10:55:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong Again, if you have a doctor, ask if you would qualify for a special permit because of your obesity. If it is caused by a condition beyond your control and not self-inflicted, you might be able to get one. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. It will save you a headache in the long run. Wow, are you serious? Only people who had no part in their disability should qualify? Is the motorcyclist who is hit in an intersection and paralyzed less deserving because he was undertaking in an activity that carried more risk? What about a skateboarder? A survivor of a suicide attempt? Someone with AIDS? Did I misunderstand? Good point and well taken. Accidents are accidents- can't help those. Suicide? I dunno.. self-inflicted behavior again? Obesity is a difficult one because it's so stigmatized. That's why I say get the doctor's opinion. This is just my opinon and still thinking through your comments though :)

apettiger -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 11:01:19 AM)
i am legally blind. i do have some limited sight, and can manuver in areas i know, but a parking lot changes from moment to moment and as loud as they can be i cannot always hear what direction it is coming from or how close a vehicle is to me, so i use the handicap parking. i have one of those mirror hangers because they refuse to give a drivers license to a blind person (go figure). most who see me in the store (one i go to all the time) have no idea i have limited vision. i use the spots because they are usually closer to the building, which means i dont have to run the gammit of the people pulling in or backing out and that makes it less likely that i will end my days as a road-pizza in a Wal-Mart parking lot. i can walk the distance, it is not my legs that i have trouble with, but the other, sighted, people who refuse to pay attention to what is going on around them. i have even had some who see me walking down the street with my long, white, red tipped cane and just stand in my way, then bitch when they get smacked with it, (it can hurt, across the ankles) HELLO? dark glasses, long white cane? move!

thompsonx -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 11:16:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong S ASS: you write: I think being up close to a building helps with EVERYONE'S security, not just the handicapped. When my mom goes to work (when she's not off for 6 weeks with surgery recovery) her assigned space is like 3 blocks away from where she works. ZERO security there. I think it's rediculous that a 55+ year old woman is shuttled out to a desolate area, far from witnesses, to get into her vehicle just because she 'can walk.' Obviously she sees a doctor, does it not EVER cross your's or hers mind to ask the doctor for a slip to GET a permit? Even if the thought occurs to you after you leave the office, CALL the doctor's office and ASK about it. I hear there is this thing called "mail:" where they can send it directly to her house. There is a temporary permit for those that are only temporarily incapacitated. Maybe you are so upset because you don't know how to get one. Here's the info- act on it. (I'm ready for the "I don't have time excuse". You MAKE time. If that's the case.. save your pennies for the fines) No excuses.. NEXT! (this is like shooting fish in a barrel) LotusSong: Don't you feel the least bit ashamed of yourself for picking on the intellectually challenged? thompson

michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: Handicap Parking spot rant (7/12/2007 11:17:41 AM)
has anyone noticed that the instigator if this portion of the thread has yet to respond?

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