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All Ownership is Conditional


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RE: All Ownership is Conditional - 7/19/2007 6:33:11 PM   
KnightofMists


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ORIGINAL: aSlavesLife

I think that some people are confusing prerequisites with conditions.


a prerequisites is a condition.

However... PRE... indicates it's a condition that is required prior to advanced to the next stage.

IE... to advance to University to become a Doctor.. one must have the appropriate grades from High School. << Prerequisite

for one to become a Doctor.. well they need to get through University and do all that education stuff<<< prerequisite

now.. are they Unconditional a Doctor now that they passed all stuff that got them there.. I think not...

they actaully have standards and expectation to be maintain to call themselves a Doctor in the eyes of the community.

Now in a M/s relationship... there is indeed alot of Prerequisites that must be achieved for a Master to see this person as a Slave and this Slave to see this person as a Master.   Fail to maintain those expectations and standards.... then the M/s will cease to function and will end.  It is a condition that must be maintained for the relationship to endure.

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RE: All Ownership is Conditional - 7/19/2007 6:38:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: aSlavesLife

After purchase of the vehicle, I may chose to change the stereo system, repaint it, and hang fuzzy dice from the rear view mirror. None of these modifications is conditional of my ownership.

Likewise, chipped paint, worn brake pads, and a cracked engine block 100,000 miles down the line do not place conditions upon my ownership of the vehicle. It at most might affect my desire to continue ownership of it. There again, I am just sentimental and redneck enough to maybe place the vehicle up on cinder blocks in the front yard and gaze upon it with warm nostalgia for decades to come.



and fail to change the oil in your car....  always drive it on the wrong side of the street... lend it to other irresponsible individuals.... and soon you will be without a car.

The greatest Condition that is upon a Master to maintain Ownership.... is to be responsible in his use of said property. 

Like a Fool that is soon parted from his money... the Irresponsible Master will soon be parted from his slave.

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RE: All Ownership is Conditional - 7/19/2007 6:50:49 PM   
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well said KnightofMists in real life I couldn't say anything more than that. Now I feel satisfied, lol.

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RE: All Ownership is Conditional - 7/19/2007 6:53:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: laineyjade

well said KnightofMists in real life I couldn't say anything more than that. Now I feel satisfied, lol.


why thank you beautiful lady... mmmmm I am so glad that I um satisfed you  lol

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RE: All Ownership is Conditional - 7/19/2007 7:16:14 PM   
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Yes, it is.  And my reasoning is exactly the same as LA's in the first post.  (Well put, too, LA.)

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RE: All Ownership is Conditional - 7/20/2007 2:40:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

In answering the query, I tried to wonder under what condition I would relinquish my ownership of beth. Quickly, death comes to mind. My ownership isn't conditional if that occurred. And if beth's faith is correct it is not over then either. Were she ill or needed care, my first instinct as an "owner" would be to get her the help or care she needs; not to abandon her. I buy her things I enjoy seeing her wear. I'm responsible for her well being and provide a healthy and protected environment for her. We each trust the other to live up to our responsibilities - unconditionally.



i thank you very much for this post.  However, i wonder if it's the ownership part that is unconditional or the love that is unconditional and perhaps the ownership is an extension of the love?  Your post did help me to revise my thinking about ownership and that it may be there are conditions on obtaining a thing (or person) but not conditions on the ownership once it is established.

My parents are not in a M/s relationship but their love and devotion to each other is so complete and totally unconditional that i do not believe even death will part them as i believe that when one dies the other will quickly follow.  Seeing their example and yours maybe then it's not the M/s dynamic that is unconditional but perhaps that deeper bond that makes the difference.  i hope that makes sense?

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