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BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 6:57:06 PM)

They are paying their dues...war would be like a vacation to them...



farglebargle -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 6:59:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

And if Farg was serious about his beliefs he would be out planting Car bombs or something against the Feds here in the USA, instead of just cheerleading . He has said many times that the courts and thier rulings (yep the same system that produced Dredd Scott) are illigitamate, and that the President is illigitimate, and the Congress oversteps the Constitution. So we can conclude that he, along with the Bush daughters, lacks the courage to follow through on his stated beliefs.


Their rules which THEY must obey. What's the problem?

And as far as armed insurrection? Pointless. And unnecessary.

Albany was here BEFORE the Articles of Confederation.

Albany is here AFTER the Articles of Confederaion.

Albany was here BEFORE the US Constitution.

Albany will be here AFTER the US Constitution.

Like the Natives, I can afford to wait it out. And if it becomes another Nazi sorta thing, the borders between NY and Canada are easy enough to wetback. My family has survived them... Life goes on beyond the pallisades.




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:00:14 PM)

I am retired,serve 3 tours in Nam wounded 3 times how much blood have you shed in defense of your country.not to mention the small endless wars in the jungles some wheres..



farglebargle -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:01:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

ITS called cut and run and you are a lesser man for doing so and yet here you are espousing bull about america,if you don't like it then leave,I'll hold a boat for you and farglebargle..bounty


Oh, are you suggesting I leave if I don't like it?

I was BORN IN NEW YORK, so you're going to have to Make Me. But hey, I've said there ain't no difference b/t a Neocon and a Nazi all along.

Is that your FINAL SOLUTION for Uppity New York , Traditionally Conservative Jews?

( Your predecessors in that strategy used cattlecars, btw... )





BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:03:47 PM)

Then tell me how you have besides spouting all that hot air,ITS a wonder that you don't take off like a rocket you have so much hot air exploding out of that hole in your head...bounty



BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:05:28 PM)

Thats correct, you bore me dude every thing you say you must dig for weeks to find,I know your intelligence fails you at times..bounty



Owner59 -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:06:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

SO I see just a tint of yellow down your back.


Now ,now,...
To even a bombast like myself , that`s over the line.Attack positions,not personalities(public officials excluded).

Ummmmmm.............  Moderator???????



farglebargle -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:07:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

I am retired,serve 3 tours in Nam wounded 3 times how much blood have you shed in defense of your country.not to mention the small endless wars in the jungles some wheres..


Who asked you? You act like that matters. It would only be relevant if you were of service age NOW, and supported the war.

I'm sorry you got sucked into going to Viet-nam. If it makes you feel better, that one was France's fault.




Sinergy -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:07:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

Are you crazy?



Ask He Who Is Without Snark.  Firm Hanky or whatever.  I am sure he could answer this for you.

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Who do you think serves now people with an MIT education, Princeton or Yale,Hell no its those that can't find work or afford school or using the military to be able to attend,SO don't spoon feed me your bullshit.A draft makes it fair for all americans..bounty



I see your point, BOUNTYHUNTER, although I am a bit puzzled why you responded to me with such venom.

I do think that rich and poor alike should all be required to do something to prove their service to the body politic.  I am simply not certain that forcing them into the military is a workable solution from the perspective of the military.
My point is that our military no longer needs cannon fodder.  We could draft everybody, then what?  We only need so many security guards, military police, water carrier drivers, people to stand roadblocks in the Green Zone, etc. 

What we need in the military are highly skilled technicians with RF equipment, computer expertise, satellite training, medical professionals, diesel mechanics, aeronautics technicians, people trainable to use UAVs, etc.  The education package going back to World War 2 promoted bringing intelligent and skilled people into the military. 

AnencephalyBoy showed everybody that when a dim-wit warmonger is elected, the military is not required to fulfill their side of the contract, and anybody who signed the contract as a volunteer is simply fucked.  As I have pointed out, the war AnencephalyBoy got us in to is exactly the sort of war a draft would be beneficial for.  I say this with the same sort of jaundice that pointing out our operations in Vietnam and Korea were the same thing.  I have made the point that Iraq was a bad idea.  Instituting a draft to try to fix the bad idea is a lousy solution and makes our military less viable in the future should we ever elect leaders intelligent enough to stand up and decide to stop babysitting Iraqis.

Sinergy



farglebargle -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:08:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

Then tell me how you have besides spouting all that hot air,ITS a wonder that you don't take off like a rocket you have so much hot air exploding out of that hole in your head...bounty


Since you didn't quote the original message, I do not understand the context of your reply.




farglebargle -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:10:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

Thats correct, you bore me dude every thing you say you must dig for weeks to find,I know your intelligence fails you at times..bounty



Since you didn't quote the original message, I do not understand the context of your reply.



farglebargle -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:11:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sinergy
A lot of stuff about conscripts....


Consider that the average IQ of the Officer Corps *should be* around 120.




Sinergy -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:20:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle


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ORIGINAL: Sinergy
A lot of stuff about conscripts....


Consider that the average IQ of the Officer Corps *should be* around 120.




What should the average IQ of the administration be?



farglebargle -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:28:30 PM)

I'd have been happy if they could have cracked triple digits!

They have that special sort of "Criminal Intelligence", without doubt, but as far as Smart? Nah.

Bush is a "Post Turtle".






kittinSol -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:38:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

SO now you telling me what I think.of course instead of yellow it could have stunk as well.


You old skunk you.



Aswad -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:39:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

ITS called cut and run and you are a lesser man for doing so and yet here you are espousing bull about america,if you don't like it then leave,I'll hold a boat for you and farglebargle..bounty


I'm not in America, bounty.

Some think a person lesser for standing up for what they believe in.
Others think that attitude is a deep betrayal of one's nation.
Why not agree to be on different sides of the fence?
No need for us to argue about it.



farglebargle -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 7:55:53 PM)

The people who whip out "My Country Right Or Wrong", invariably misquote Senator CARL SCHURZ in the Senate, February 29, 1872.

"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right."




Owner59 -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 8:51:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle


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ORIGINAL: Sinergy
A lot of stuff about conscripts....


Consider that the average IQ of the Officer Corps *should be* around 120.




What should the average IQ of the administration be?


Not sure if it was true,but I heard years ago that bush`s IQ was a few notches above retarded.We all know folks like that.Simple minded,incurious,unable to put a coherent sentence together,likes to party,a general fuck up.But functional enough to not be institutionalized.

Sounds like bush.BTW,the bushies value loyalty over smarts.That`s how we got into this mess.



Sinergy -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 9:00:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Not sure if it was true,but I heard years ago that bush`s IQ was a few notches above retarded.



Snopes.com debunked this story.  It went back to a fictitious report by a fake organization which pegged him at 91.

http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm

I think Forrest Gump said it best, however.  "Stupid is as stupid does."

Sinergy



Owner59 -> RE: Restoring the draft (7/24/2007 10:15:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Not sure if it was true,but I heard years ago that bush`s IQ was a few notches above retarded.



Snopes.com debunked this story.  It went back to a fictitious report by a fake organization which pegged him at 91.

http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm

I think Forrest Gump said it best, however.  "Stupid is as stupid does."

Sinergy



Ha-ha ,"Lovenstein Institute" just the name smacks of  "The Onion" and their funny brand of fake news.

,,,not for nothing though,the republicans use fake science constantly and phony think-tanks and institutes all the time.I looked at this site,looks real enough.Why can`t we quote the site`s  BS ,the way the neo-cons do with their phony institutes and foundations?We`ll make the charge,and let the bushies respond,we`ll quote the "Institute" and let them defend themselves,we`ll argue that everyone uses fake "Institutes" and fair is fair,they`ll cry foul.Pretty soon,nobody will know what it true or not.Let`s just claim bush is a retard and let god sort it out.<snickers>It`s a page right out out the neo-conservitive play book.



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