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ORIGINAL: BBBTBW



Honestly you shouldn't exclude anyone.  Black Males are very underrepresented in the lifestyle.  I find it difficult to find much less relate to Black Male submissives simply because they don't present themselves to be submissive to me.  Yet when they are serving a white DOMME, they tend to let it all go. 

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

i never had the experience of dating within my race because (and this is my opinion/experience only) the few Black men i've met considered me "too white" for my own race ...meaning i didn't act like the "typical" black woman.  all my formers have been white men and Daddy is a white as well - it's not that i prefer to "fall on my knees" and submit to a someone who is white, i merely never met any black men who are into this lifestyle. oh i've met black men who would use words such as "dominate" or "submissive" as pick up lines for kinky sex however that was the limit of their convesations with me. i personally find it much easier for me to have a conversation with a white man than with a black man.

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

i never had the experience of dating within my race because (and this is my opinion/experience only) the few Black men i've met considered me "too white" for my own race ...meaning i didn't act like the "typical" black woman.  all my formers have been white men and Daddy is a white as well - it's not that i prefer to "fall on my knees" and submit to a someone who is white, i merely never met any black men who are into this lifestyle. oh i've met black men who would use words such as "dominate" or "submissive" as pick up lines for kinky sex however that was the limit of their convesations with me. i personally find it much easier for me to have a conversation with a white man than with a black man.

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sambamanslilgirl, unfortunately in many parts of this country, that's the way other african-americans will react to anyone who falls even somewhat outside the norm. growing up, all the way up to my high school years, i dealt with the same thing...kids saying i was "tryna to be white" because i used correct grammar and enunciated clearly, got good grades, was an avid bookworm, etc. for a long time i never had any black friends outside of my own family for that reason. however when i matured somewhat i realized it was just unconscious ignorance...as well as a fear of not falling within the status quo themselves. the same people who teased and taunted me as a kid, calling me "oreo", etc. now admire me for my individuality.

For the record I can relate big time.... 

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ORIGINAL: sirmagic

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sambamanslilgirl, unfortunately in many parts of this country, that's the way other african-americans will react to anyone who falls even somewhat outside the norm. growing up, all the way up to my high school years, i dealt with the same thing...kids saying i was "tryna to be white" because i used correct grammar and enunciated clearly, got good grades, was an avid bookworm, etc. for a long time i never had any black friends outside of my own family for that reason. however when i matured somewhat i realized it was just unconscious ignorance...as well as a fear of not falling within the status quo themselves. the same people who teased and taunted me as a kid, calling me "oreo", etc. now admire me for my individuality.

*smiles*
Gee and I thought I was the only one who had this experience growing up in Boston in the 70's and 80's.
For the record I can relate big time.... 
 
Magic

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"The problem with the Internet is there are so many people
consumed by searching for a dream, that when they eventually find
it they don't want to believe. They realize they'll have to live up
to their expectations of themselves. They begin to fear that
the reality will not or can not meet the fantasy. It is here
that many discover it is safer to search for a dream they can
not have, than to live a reality which can fail."

                 ~ Sir Magic ~
              
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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

i never had the experience of dating within my race because (and this is my opinion/experience only) the few Black men i've met considered me "too white" for my own race ...meaning i didn't act like the "typical" black woman.  all my formers have been white men and Daddy is a white as well - it's not that i prefer to "fall on my knees" and submit to a someone who is white, i merely never met any black men who are into this lifestyle. oh i've met black men who would use words such as "dominate" or "submissive" as pick up lines for kinky sex however that was the limit of their convesations with me. i personally find it much easier for me to have a conversation with a white man than with a black man.

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: dovie

hugging Creative Dominant real tight and giving him a belly rub.......er, i don't think domiguy and popeye are Black although they appear to be very crute.

dream well,
dovie

~grins~ thanks for the belly rub. Now...I do not know whether to be embarassed or just flustered; I honestly did not know that domiguy was not black (showing my ignorance here because I wouldn't recognize Tupac if he came up out of the grave and stepped up to me. I knew him from his pictures when all that was going on but that is a long time ago in my world). And it honestly wasn't anything in Popeye's writings that made me think that...on the computer I use, his avatar shows up with him looking very dark.

I will say that if I have offended either domiguy or Popeye, please accept my sincere apology.

I concede the point that there may well be as many black people in the scene as white people...however, others such as DarkDaddy, himself a black man, have noted that they do seem to be fewer in number at most events. Perhaps it is just because they are not as open about it or enjoy attending events less and maybe even join groups like collarme less but it does appear as if they are fewer in number.

Creative Dominant, I'm Black as the Ace of Spades!
Can't you tell by my profile pictures?
Dovie, thankyou for the nice compliment!

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

i never had the experience of dating within my race because (and this is my opinion/experience only) the few Black men i've met considered me "too white" for my own race ...meaning i didn't act like the "typical" black woman.  all my formers have been white men and Daddy is a white as well - it's not that i prefer to "fall on my knees" and submit to a someone who is white, i merely never met any black men who are into this lifestyle. oh i've met black men who would use words such as "dominate" or "submissive" as pick up lines for kinky sex however that was the limit of their convesations with me. i personally find it much easier for me to have a conversation with a white man than with a black man.

sambamanslilgirl, unfortunately in many parts of this country, that's the way other african-americans will react to anyone who falls even somewhat outside the norm. growing up, all the way up to my high school years, i dealt with the same thing...kids saying i was "tryna to be white" because i used correct grammar and enunciated clearly, got good grades, was an avid bookworm, etc. for a long time i never had any black friends outside of my own family for that reason. however when i matured somewhat i realized it was just unconscious ignorance...as well as a fear of not falling within the status quo themselves. the same people who teased and taunted me as a kid, calling me "oreo", etc. now admire me for my individuality.

i'm sorry to hear of your poor experiences as an adult with black male Dominants, in my experiences, while i've certainly met some of the ilk you mention, only out for somewhat kinky sex, i've met a great deal of sincere, mature, wonderful black Doms. a lot of it has to do with your area, and the rest has to do with the circles you associate with. because my Master and i are a "real life" M/s couple who take the lifestyle very seriously, we tend to attract others of likemind. but i can somewhat relate to your finding it easier to converse with those outside your race...when i initially met Daddy online, i assumed he was white, simply because he was so easy to talk to and so mature and knowledgeable about the lifestyle. then he sent me a pic and i was like "omg you're black??!" lol...He still teases me about that one. turned out i held some preconceived notions and stereotypes of my own.

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

You would think that after all the trials and tribulations the blacks have been through, that they would go easy on each other.  A person can't help what color they are born.  To turn on your own kind because of a shade difference... boggles my mind. 
 
Racism within your own race. go figure :/

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

www.blackbeatinc.org

I clicked on .......I was immediately greeted by some cheesy "jam" while I perused the site....The only thing missing was the Cosby kids dancing around.

I can just imagine what would happen if I were to attend......(The announcer of blackbeat clears his throat and begins speaking in a deep resonating voice....Similar to that of Barry White)  And now you sexy ladies and gentleman....Please turn to the middle stage where Master DeMarcus along with his lovely slaves, Shiffona and LaSheena, will be performing the beautiful art of Shibari to the soft and soulful musical stylings of Luther.....

I'm in.

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong


Maybe we should start a White Whallop or a Caucasian Clobber? :)

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ORIGINAL: BBBTBW

Why is it that when something is predominantly black, not exclusively but predominantly some white people have to take offense or poke fun?  MOST things in America are predominantly white as some of the other black people in this forum have pointed out. I guess no notice is taken until someone sensitive to it points it out.

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For the record there are already "White Whallps and Caucasian Clobbers"  They are called KKK rally's.  Only they aren't consentual.

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

See what I mean?  A soon as the white race identifies themselves as a group, even when they include all are viewed upon with suspicion.  And yes my comment was said tongue in cheek  (notice the smiley)  It also was done to elicit the vey response you gave. The blacks can form a BlackBeat, a NAACP, or a Black Panther group and noone ito bat an eye.  But as soon as a white even indicates thst they are starting a group, right away it is seen as White Supremacy/KKK.
 
Even though a group invites all but has a very specific indicator that ONE group is hosting it, there is always that little bit of uneasiness.  Why not just have a neutral type identifyer?  It would be far more welcoming if indeed they want all races to attend.  My underlying point being.. if one can lable their event as Black Beat with no offence being taken.. they why would someone take offence to an event called White Whallop? (rhetorical question there)
 
If we all are striving to be equal, accepting and fair with each other.. I propose we drop any indicator of race.