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RE: Judge voids city's illegal immigration law - 8/2/2007 1:28:14 AM   
popeye1250


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popeye,
 
#1...the comments were not made to 'criminals'...but to those of us here on cm.  He was speaking to those of us here…in this thread; not to someone he perceives to be criminal.  We are having an adult conversation here...what is the point of being so nasty?  Such language is just running nice people off the boards...
 
#2...my son is retarded and has lived in an ‘asylum' (of sorts).  Why would being retarded be something to be disparaged…or living in an asylum, for that matter?
 
Beverly,
 
PS... and the "savages invading our country" comment; Mexicans are savages?  Good lord, their society is older than ours; in spite of the poverty in their country...they had running water, sewers, paved streets, Opera Houses and Repertoire Companies... all long before New York was much more than a collection of shacks and outhouses!  Should we really be refering to our neighbors as savages, then? 
 
At the very least, even when discussing criminals, I see no reason for rules of civility are suspended.  Aren't civil people always polite?
 
B


Nope, not "always" nor should they be expected to be.
I'm not very polite at all when discussing rapists, "UM" molesters, or illegal aliens.
"Running nice people off the boards?"
And we know this how?
I happen to enjoy EPGAH's honest comments.
"Their society is older than ours!"
Are you talking about the country of Mexico or the now defunct Mayan and Aztec societies?
Ah, the U.S. wasn't founded until well after 900-1200 A.D. when the Mayans and Aztecs closed up shop.
As for "savages", savages don't recognise or obey laws very well, do they?
Ghengis Kahn, ("Jenjis" in Kerry speak) and Alexander the Great, oh, and that little French prick Napolean wearn't too good at Geography were they?
They didn't recognise "borders" too well either.
I have no problems calling people "savages" like al qeada and bin laden .
It also means an illiterate or preliterate crude person.
In case you hadn't noticed almost all of the people breaching our border with Mexico aren't even literate in their own languages much less English.
If they have a 6th grade education they think they're "Jethro" of The Beverly Hillbillies.
On the News last night they said that the President of Argentina was visiting Mexico and called the fence or wall they are (supposed) to be building along  the border "an insult and an afront to all the people in Mexico, Central America and S. America."

FUCKIN nice! So now we can expect illegal aliens from Argentina? Four thousand miles to the South?
So, we build a wall on our own border and somehow that's an "insult" to people thousands of miles away?
I WONDER what his "reasoning" is for that?

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RE: Judge voids city's illegal immigration law - 8/2/2007 5:08:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Nope, not "always" nor should they be expected to be.
I'm not very polite at all when discussing rapists, "UM" molesters, or illegal aliens.
"Running nice people off the boards?"
And we know this how?
I happen to enjoy EPGAH's honest comments.
This would make sense since EPGAH has been shown to be factually incorrect in most everything he has said.


"Their society is older than ours!"
Are you talking about the country of Mexico or the now defunct Mayan and Aztec societies?
Ah, the U.S. wasn't founded until well after 900-1200 A.D. when the Mayans and Aztecs closed up shop.
Even a sixth grader knows that the Aztecs were conquered by Cortes in the early sixteenth century 1519-1521.  New York city does not even exist for more than another hundred years.  Again something most sixth graders would know.
 




As for "savages", savages don't recognise or obey laws very well, do they?
Ghengis Kahn, ("Jenjis" in Kerry speak) and Alexander the Great, oh, and that little French prick Napolean wearn't too good at Geography were they?
They didn't recognise "borders" too well either.
Nor did people like Andrew Jackson (Florida), James Polk (Mexico), William McKinley (Hawaii) or George Bush (Iraq).


I have no problems calling people "savages" like al qeada and bin laden .
It also means an illiterate or preliterate crude person.
Such as someone who knows less about history than a sixth grader or who constantly speaks in a crude and belittling manner towards those whom he feels are inferior? 


In case you hadn't noticed almost all of the people breaching our border with Mexico aren't even literate in their own languages much less English.
If they have a 6th grade education they think they're "Jethro" of The Beverly Hillbillies.
On the News last night they said that the President of Argentina was visiting Mexico and called the fence or wall they are (supposed) to be building along  the border "an insult and an afront to all the people in Mexico, Central America and S. America."

FUCKIN nice! So now we can expect illegal aliens from Argentina? Four thousand miles to the South?
So, we build a wall on our own border and somehow that's an "insult" to people thousands of miles away?
The Berlin Wall was considered an insult to the whole world.  How could a wall between the U.S. and Mexico be considered differently.



I WONDER what his "reasoning" is for that?

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RE: Judge voids city's illegal immigration law - 8/2/2007 6:18:51 PM   
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I say if illegal immigrants get in here and work like we do and pay are taxes then its to damn bad for us that we didn't catch them.  They don't hurt us and people complain about them taking the jobs!?  Well tell me this do you know many white people who would take lawn mowing and crappy ass jobs like the mexicans?  They are nice and it takes a long time to get a green card.  Some people don't have the time to do that. 

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RE: Judge voids city's illegal immigration law - 8/2/2007 9:15:35 PM   
EPGAH


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The part about them taking crappy ass jobs--Those used to be done by American teenagers--including myself when I was younger.
About hurting people--check the prisons and crime stats...Or the more passive ways, like clogging/bankrupting hospitals, making it so that NOONE can get medical treatment on a timely basis...Hope you can survive until the next hospital over!
(Or long-term damages, like dumbing down our educational system so that the invaders can "keep up"!)
As to "don't have time" to get a green card: As thompsonx pointed out, they have existed for centuries, so there is NOT a time-limit on getting a green-card!
It's not SUPPOSED to be a quick or easy process, because it's SUPPOSED to be valuable--priviliges attached to citizenship that non-citizens don't get! Sort of like membership at a fancy club, or a ticket-LINE at a theater and/or (Insert themepark of your choice here). If you sneak in, the proprietors lose money, and you're supposed to get thrown out.
Secondarily, and MORE important in the long run, everytime an invader gets in, the laws are tightened, and fees increased for those who do it the right way...or are they just chumps for waiting in line?
What laws can I skip if I "don't have time for it"? Oh, wait, as a LEGAL American, I can be tracked and punished when I break the laws! Illegals can commit crimes with impunity, and when they get too close to getting caught, they can hide in Mexico--NOT necessarily the one on the other side of the "border", I mean the little mini-Mexicos they've established here. Illegal breaks into your house? Too bad, they can't catch him! Illegal hits you with his car (Which he's NOT licensed for, since he legally doesn't EXIST!)? Too bad, the cops won't be able to find and punish him!
Until YOU are victimized, though, I'm just some racist little git! Thanks!
PS. MsBearLee, I did NOT mean to offend your son or anyone else living in a retard asylum. However, the point I was trying to make is that America cannot afford to be the HMO, lifeboat, or asylum for just ANYONE who seeks entry! The "lifeboat" theory is flawed, in that a lifeboat works BECAUSE a ship has a limited number of passengers. The world has literally unlimited, and if you go to Wal-Mart, you will see "anecdotal evidence" of Hispanics' spectacular failure to use birth-control...An "Army of 12 Monkeys" running through the aisles, knocking things over, yelling loudly IN SPANISH! (Teaching their children English is evil? Assimilating to the country they are invading and bleeding dry is evil?)
The retard part is that they can't/won't learn English, even with ample opportunity, and they seem to be the ONLY group making such demands--not requests--on America! America has existed for 231 years, our border with Mexico has existed for 159. Either of those numbers--IN YEARS--should be JUST enough time for Mexicans to learn English. American retards learn faster than that! (And yes, I volunteered for awhile at a retard asylum--a building, not a nation! Our record was 43 years to learn English, and we celebrated his victory, with cake, balloons, music, and dancing!)
Perhaps that is the problem? We don't hold a little party for a foreigner learning English, we just sort of EXPECT it, the way they EXPECT us to spend our tax-money on them and their broods?
If they don't want to learn our culture and think theirs is good enough, they don't have to come in! Maybe the ones you meet ARE nice, cultured people, but the ones that are willing to violate laws for what they want are, by definition, criminals. And once the necessary "moral adjustment" is made to violate INTERnational laws, what will enforce obedience to NATIONAL--or lower--laws? Or are repeat deportees just a statistical anomaly? They just keep "accidentally" breaking our laws over and over, "accidentally" forging documents, "accidentally" getting in cars and injuring Americans?
Mexicans are a special case. If they're so hard working, how could they crowd the streets with their malcontents? If they are desperate for money or whatever, then why don't they learn the language? TRY to blend in? Instead, their attitude toward Americans seems to be, "We're here, we WON'T learn your language, YOU WILL learn ours! Resistance is futile, we are reversing centuries of tradition of America assimilating outsiders!" Then again, those outsiders DID come in the LEGAL way!

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RE: Judge voids city's illegal immigration law - 8/2/2007 11:36:37 PM   
popeye1250


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ORIGINAL: Zanarkand

I say if illegal immigrants get in here and work like we do and pay are taxes then its to damn bad for us that we didn't catch them.  They don't hurt us and people complain about them taking the jobs!?  Well tell me this do you know many white people who would take lawn mowing and crappy ass jobs like the mexicans?  They are nice and it takes a long time to get a green card.  Some people don't have the time to do that. 


Zanark, it takes a long time to save enough money to buy a Cadillac too.
Can we do away with the laws on bank robbery so that I can get a Cadillac faster?
And, we decide who gets into our country not foreigners.
As for lawn mowing or crappy ass jobs we have an overabundance of high school dropouts to do jobs like that.
In some areas of the country 50% of students don't finish high school.
They can do the "lawn jockey" type jobs.

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RE: Judge voids city's illegal immigration law - 8/3/2007 12:10:35 AM   
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Stealing this country and land from the Indians isn't legal (IMHO) either, but the white man can do anything he wants just by passing a law...Lets just send everybody back where they came from and start over...no, thats not fair - is it ?  ok then lets do it this way - anyone that can not read, write and peak English - go home - sounds fair to me = so lets pass another law..

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RE: Judge voids city's illegal immigration law - 8/3/2007 12:17:43 AM   
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We are being invaded and I vote we repell all boarders by any means necessary - invasion is an act of WAR. Next thing you know the Mexicans will be stealing the country away from the whites like the whites stold it from the indians - poetic justice ?

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