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Politesub53 -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:04:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkWriter

Your ignorance is remarkable. Learn a little European history, say from 1936 to 1945, and the brown shirt reference will crystalize for you like magic. I am neither insecure nor am I given to spending time on a high horse. My ususal horse is entirely sufficient. Finally, if I have the wrong opinion of you it is from your own words.

That makes it your problem, not mine.



Not  really, the Sa were disbanded before 1936. They started out as shock troops in ww1. Then the name was given to the thugs employed to protect Nazi party meetings. Rohm who was in charge of the Sa wanted to take control of the army, Hindenburg threatened martial law, forcing Hitler to act. Hence the trumped up charges and the night of the long knives.

Not defending Rule here DW just stating facts.




kittinSol -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:06:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

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ORIGINAL: DarkWriter
As for the difference between racism and baiting an eccentric: With the eccentric, you respond to what he says or does, as opposed to what he is.


An eccentric is an eccentric a white person is white. To bait either springs from the same source NO?
While many might construe my posts as indicating I am a racist I am confident you will not find one example of racial abuse directed at an individual or group in anything I have said.


Do I look 'white' to you, seeksfemslave? Because I rather think I'm an off-shade of pale peach. Yellowish pink comes to mind. I certainly seem white to those that feel they're not. But then again, not everybody shares your outlook on shades and colour [8|].




kittinSol -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:10:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

You think that the Germans were nazi's and committed genocide on the Jews? You truly are ignorant. The holocaust was financed with Jewish - mostly American - money. That is a proven fact. It wasn't that German puppet that was given all the blame that was responsible. The holocaust was in large part financed by rich, evil Jews sitting on the benches in the synagogue and secretly feeling the desire to murder their relatives sitting on the poor benches. That is the fruit of circumcision: evil become incarnate. (It is incarnate in non-circumcised populations also, but presumably at a lower frequency - I guess.)



See this? This would get you jailed in more civilised shores. You are lucky you're dumping in a 'let's tolerate intolerance' place.




LadyEllen -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:11:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

So, since nobody bothered to answer my question (how may we erradicate xenophobia?) I suppose a good old in-line fighting might be in order. Oi.



Well, I thought I'd given some clues in my post (393), but then I guess no one read it as they were too busy proving my point.

E




DesertRat -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:12:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
So, since nobody bothered to answer my question (how may we erradicate xenophobia?) I suppose a good old in-line fighting might be in order. Oi.


Now wait a minuteI answered it! Or at least tried to. But then those guys started slagging. In a way, that is a kind of answer, isn't it? I mean, in an 'object lesson' kind of way? We're humans and there's just no dealing with us. I'll take cats any day.

Bob




Politesub53 -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:12:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

[;)] When you first started posting on the CM forums I seriously considered blocking your posts, seeks. I seem to recall that I told you so at the time. But I gave you the benefit of the doubt and quickly revised my opinion. You are up there among the mammals, in my estimation, seeks, a worthy discussion partner, whereas those two are mere insects. I respect you.
 
Ah, those brown shirts. Those brown shirts that were financed by Jews and that were bought with Jewish money. You think that I am a nazi? Whatever gave you that erroneous impression?
You think that the Germans were nazi's and committed genocide on the Jews? You truly are ignorant. The holocaust was financed with Jewish - mostly American - money. That is a proven fact. It wasn't that German puppet that was given all the blame that was responsible. The holocaust was in large part financed by rich, evil Jews sitting on the benches in the synagogue and secretly feeling the desire to murder their relatives sitting on the poor benches. That is the fruit of circumcision: evil become incarnate. (It is incarnate in non-circumcised populations also, but presumably at a lower frequency - I guess.)


First prize for the most crass post on collarme, and ive seen a few. If you were joking, that makes it twice as bad in my book.




kittinSol -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:15:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

So, since nobody bothered to answer my question (how may we erradicate xenophobia?) I suppose a good old in-line fighting might be in order. Oi.



Well, I thought I'd given some clues in my post (393), but then I guess no one read it as they were too busy proving my point.

E


Standing corrected  here, LadyE.




kittinSol -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:21:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesertRat

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
So, since nobody bothered to answer my question (how may we erradicate xenophobia?) I suppose a good old in-line fighting might be in order. Oi.


Now wait a minuteI answered it! Or at least tried to. But then those guys started slagging. In a way, that is a kind of answer, isn't it? I mean, in an 'object lesson' kind of way? We're humans and there's just no dealing with us. I'll take cats any day.

Bob


Does that include a racially mixed-up 'human cat' :-) ?




LadyEllen -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:23:32 PM)

Ooh! Can I be a human cat? Please?

I mean, then I'd be even more cute and more dangerous!

Bit of a bugger trying to paint your nails though.....

E




kittinSol -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:25:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Bit of a bugger trying to paint your nails though.....

E


I'll gladly help you with my small, dexterous paws :-) .




DesertRat -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:28:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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ORIGINAL: DesertRat
...I'll take cats any day.


Does that include a racially mixed-up 'human cat' :-) ?


Oh yes, it most certainly does.[;)]

Bob




LadyEllen -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:28:11 PM)

I'd strongly advise against that KS.

I'm dangerous enough to be around to start with - how do you think I'd be if I had claws too!?

E




seeksfemslave -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:29:51 PM)

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kittinSol
Do I look 'white' to you, seeksfemslave? Because I rather think I'm an off-shade of pale peach. Yellowish pink comes to mind. I certainly seem white to those that feel they're not. But then again, not everybody shares your outlook on shades and colour [8|].

Believe that Darwinism is untrue and you must be a creationist in the religious sense of the word..
Observe that different subgroups of humans are not the same and comment on the fact that one  subgroup in particular has demonstrated major weaknesses and you must be a racist.
Why to both points ?

Also I think the energetic responses in  this thread show a reaction/rejection to/of the dishonest PC thinking that has been foisted on the "silent majority" over  the last few years.




kittinSol -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:36:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I'd strongly advise against that KS.

I'm dangerous enough to be around to start with - how do you think I'd be if I had claws too!?

E


I'm not scared and I'm full of love :=}




DesertRat -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:40:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave
Believe that Darwinism is untrue and you must be a creationist in the religious sense of the word..
Observe that different subgroups of humans are not the same and comment on the fact that one  subgroup in particular has demonstrated major weaknesses and you must be a racist.
Why to both points ?


Same answer for both: It's called "cherry picking". Selecting bits of data that support your foregone conclusions. It helps one present one's opinions as objective "facts". It's a time-honored rhetorical technique, as is my insulting irreverance.

Bob




kittinSol -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:42:53 PM)

Je ne comprends ni d’où vous venez, ni où vous allez.
 
(En fait je comprends parfaitement, mais rien ne vaut la peine d'aller où la peine n'en vaut pas la peine.)




seeksfemslave -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:49:47 PM)

DesertRat: The situation in post colonial Central and Southern Africa is a total across the board catastrophe brought on by human failings. How can recognising that fact be "cherry picking" There are no cherries, failure is the norm NO




seeksfemslave -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 4:56:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
Je ne comprends ni d’où vous venez, ni où vous allez. 
 (En fait je comprends parfaitement, mais rien ne vaut la peine d'aller où la peine n'en vaut pas la peine.)


You certainly dont understand critical disinterested analysis wherever it comes from or is going to.Is "peine" a rude word lol




DarkWriter -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 5:03:57 PM)

Ah, your original question, sorry. I can only say that xenophobia is a learned thing, not a natural thing, and that the only way to break ourselves of it as individuals is to spend as much real time with people of other races, to educate ourselves about language and culture, to travel, to try new foods that come from different places, and to teach our children that skin color is no more important than hair or eye color. There is a precept in Jewish thought that says if you do something enough, belief will follow. In other words, do it with your body and let your mind catch up. Apply that to this and who knows how far we could go!




DesertRat -> RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. (8/7/2007 5:05:41 PM)

Sure. Human failings. The failings of humans caught up in conditions resulting from political and socioeconomic forces. Forces strongly affected by European colonization. It was a fucked up mess when they were colonies and it's a fucked up mess now that they're independent states. Just a different kind of fucked up mess. It's political and social. Not biological and/or racial. You yourself may not be a racist, but your argument would play well in a roomful of racists.

Bob




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