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RE: Faking Orgasm - 7/4/2005 2:00:29 AM   
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Oh I would never fake it with my Master. I lied to him once, and got away with it... but I felt so horrible about it I eventually told him 2 days later. Was punished for it, but I didn't care. I completely understood and was so sorry. In my opinion, honesty and integrity are of utmost importance, especially in wiitwd. BDSM involves a great deal of communication, and to be insincere would just not work in that dynamic. I would never be with anyone who could not be completely honest with me.

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 6:52:36 AM   
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men should not cum or orgasm until the woman they are with is satisfied.  i was fortunate to learn at the tender age of 21 from a 39 year old woman that is the sign of a good lover.  She taught me that my love for her was about pleasing her and once i had pleased her, i should feel a special warm feeling in knowning that, and my ejaculation should be a secondary fullfillment.

foreplay, teasing touching, exploring, sensuality is everything.  if men put their efforts into all things that focus on their partner, (in or out of the dom sub realm) then the rewards for both will be endless.

if she did not cum then i could not taste it which always meant that that was it for the night.  that rarely happened though.

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 6:56:52 AM   
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men should not cum or orgasm until the woman they are with is satisfied.   things that focus on their partner, (in or out of the dom sub realm) then the rewards for both will be endless..



I have no idea what this dude is talking about....Here's the deal,  you go about your business and then leave! If she wants satisfaction, ram a Snickers bar up her cunt before you're out the door..

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 7:14:42 AM   
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i have a problem in this area....iwhen i 1st got married i wouldnt "fake" orgams but i wouldnt have any either...my husband noticed this and i could tell he was irritated...but rather then ask or do some of the things i suggested he kept on with business as usual. so edventually i did start "faking" to keep the "peace" it has been about 22 years now. my dilema is that i'm so used to NOT orgasming that i almost can't....this is really an embarrassing problem....

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 7:28:26 AM   
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I have faked it any number of times.  For any number of reasons but often around some self esteem issue of my parter.  Many women would feel unnatractive/failure etc. if they knew what they were doing wasn't making you cum.  If it is a long term issue, one would have to deal with it directly, but sometimes, just faking it makes everyone happy.

This weekend I doubt I will have this issue although I might have to beg off once my cock is rubbed raw.

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 10:45:46 AM   
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I asked my mom this question a few years ago. Her reply sorta stunned me. She said, "woman are not supposed to have orgasms".   on that note- i sensed the topic was off limit and we changed the topic.

there are times where sex becomes work. i dont work for free.  this is a problem w one night stands. you dont reaally tune in to a person until about the 5th time. few are willing to wait. instead they discard the sex partner like yedsderdays newspaper.

ideally sex is an intimate form of communication.  if the act is going no-where the honest thing is to mutually acknowledge that both enjoyed- and it is what it is.

next- TELL ur partner what u like. if you dont verbalize he or she wont know.

one thing. ppl seem to thin sex is putrely about the penis/vagina/ no- it is teh entire body-=a dance of harmony.

it doesnt always have to end with a bang. it can end with a nice back rub.

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 11:11:54 AM   
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I have faked before. It is hard for males to get me off. In fact until meeting my husband none had succeded. I would fake more so their pride would not be hurt. Guys put so much into trying to performing. And telling a guy upfront you are hard to please seems like they start seeing you as a challenge. Psh sometimes faking is just easier to please those involved. As far as it being hard to fake like the OP said it really isn't. You can fake the vaginal spasms fairy easily by flexing your kegals and the shaking is also easy to fake by tensing up all your mussels until they begin to shake. 

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 12:45:26 PM   
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Old thread.........

Domiguy that was hilarious..... shove a snickers up her for satisfaction!

i used to fake alot and did so really well - mainly because i simply could not orgasm.  Not by myself, not with a friend, not with a toy..... You could have offered me a million dollars to orgasm and i would not have been able to orgasm.  I had told a few partners and they tried to "help"  When i put forth the effort to actually get there..... i usually ended up feeling like i was literally slamming into a brick wall.  i would be right there yet could not get past that damn wall..  It would take ages of stimulation, of guys working their butts off, of me concentrating really really really hard... and slam.  OR better yet, we'd try and my mind would wander and the little bit of "wet" and the little bit of distance i had gone would be out the window.  I'd sit there and be amazed at how fast a chick could dry up.  So faking it was much less stressful.  Back then, i had summed up i was broken in some odd way.  Why did i want to go around informing lovers that i was abnormal and then go through the process of the frustration and pain of showing how abnormal i was? 

Much Much better to just keep my mouth shut, enjoy the sex, and just pretend i was normal.  Luckily, i havent had to deal with that in over 3 years.  More like 7 years as i went through about 4 of them single.  Some how, Master fixed me.



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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 1:02:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

After reading the responses on this thread I have made a few observations. I am sitting here with these mental images of women(and men apparantly) all over the world having sex, rolling their eyes and giving an awful lot of concious thought to how to make their bodies appear to be orgasming convincingly....most times it seems in an effort to make bad sex stop. Faking tremors....doing Kegels....moaning....shouting Oh God. For me the images are just bizarre....and I do not say that in a way to be demeaning to anyone.

I have to wonder though, if you have so much of your brain tied up in your attempt to be deceptive, how can you expect to let go enough to orgasm? Sex is as much, if not more, mental as it is physical. Wouldn't it be much more productive to let your mind go off into fantasy land or at the very least, use that concious effort to think about things that really get you going?

Many have responded that most times they have done this it was because their partner was not doing things in a manner that were pleasing. Don't people communicate? If a man is doing it all wrong, why not just educate him a bit? A little less pressure babe....more tongue flicking, less sucking....faster...harder....slower....more gentle.....here is my clit....my G spot is here. Isn't that how we learn our partners bodies and the exact way to please each other? Are we, as women in general, embarassed to say exactly what it is that we enjoy? Questions, questions, questions......

I guess after reading this I certainly feel very fortunate.



mistoferin...i faked orgasms all the time with vanilla partners in the past, who wouldn't stop until they believed i'd cum. therefore, to bring the torture and ridiculousness to a close, i would fake an O. it's extremely simple...most men aren't that knowledgeable about women's bodies, and don't understand what all comes with an actual orgasm. in some cases they may have never brought a woman to orgasm...so they truly have no way of knowing. i'd do a few fake soft moans, a little delicate shiver, and flex my vaginal muscles a few times. no wetness necessary.

as to your question, why not educate him, tell him what you like, etc. that is not a question which takes the submissive personality into account. even with vanillas, and with no knowledge whatsoever of D/s, i have always been a submissive, and it would never cross my mind for a second to ask or tell a man how to please me. i don't even operate that way...i never cared about orgasms or even my own pleasure overly much, the important thing to me was always pleasing my partner to the utmost, and just plain being used. if they were the type to only be pleased by believing they were some sexual stud that got me off, then i had to create that fantasy.

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 1:17:00 PM   
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Years ago when on medication, I had to fake orgasm. I got it up and kept it up just fine... but couldn't cum even if my life depended on it. If you had seen the woman I was keeping company with at the time, you might have called me a liar... but it was true.

That crap medication also made my whole body itch and gave me a dry tounge. Talk about the side effects being worse than the symptoms they were trying to treat!

When I complained to the doc during my next visit, he suggested doubling the dose! I think my blood pressure rose about 60 points in 10 seconds, as I restrained myself from lunging out at him.

Needless to say, I took myself off the med against his orders, and never returned to him. Problem solved.   

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 2:17:28 PM   
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I have faked a few times when it just was taking too damn long, i wasn't in the mood, and i was tired and just wanted to get it over with.  It's very easy for a female to fake well.

Edited to add--that was before i discovered how much better it was with erotic pain, now i'm never too tired.

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 2:18:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

I have faked it any number of times.  For any number of reasons but often around some self esteem issue of my parter.  Many women would feel unnatractive/failure etc. if they knew what they were doing wasn't making you cum.  If it is a long term issue, one would have to deal with it directly, but sometimes, just faking it makes everyone happy.

This weekend I doubt I will have this issue although I might have to beg off once my cock is rubbed raw.



... my advice to you is to stop rubbing it!

I had so many good "faking it" jokes, but the truth is,  I never have. 

I can appreaciate kindness extended to those partners whose self-esteem required the "act", but I've never found myself pretending.

... meaning (for snarky ones) that those times I didn't, I just said so, honestly, and one hopes, avec une petite peu du tact. 

Making it into an issue of performance/worth is how it orgasms got mistakenly linked with self-esteem in the first place. 

Use the opportunity, good Masters, to help your partners see this essential fact.

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 2:23:44 PM   
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Hello mistoferin,

I was going to tip-toe right around this topic, being a woman who has faked it ... well most of the time, to be honest.

Why?  There are a myriad of reasons as to why I have faked it.  Usually it is because I can sense his getting frustrated/angry that I am not cumming fast enough or that I worry about making him feel like I am not sexually attracted to him/enjoying the sexual play.  So, when I sense him nearing one of those two points (or both) I will fake it. 

If I am being perfectly honest, I have also done it when my sexual response started to wane and eventually just ceased to be at all.  I did not want to lose his interestand not get any affection at all, especially as he had another girl, and so would fake it so that I would not lose the priveledge of relations with him.

It is not that I didnt wish orgasm, not at all.  I would have very much loved to share in that.  But I would rather have pleased him, I suppose.

How... sexual response or not, I have no issues with lubrication, so there was not that worry about. Also, if you just simulate the muscles spasming.. its pretty much a no brainer beyond some faster/heavier breathing and a couple of yowls.

Lastly, I do not think it has anything to do with someone being dumb.  Remember, it was my machination that created his being out of the loop that I didn't actually cum.    I wil add that perhaps, there was some relief on his part that I was finally done, so it made the believing a bit easier? 

Unbecoming perhaps, but it is the truth of why I did it.

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 2:36:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: imthatacheyouhav

i have a problem in this area....iwhen i 1st got married i wouldnt "fake" orgams but i wouldnt have any either...my husband noticed this and i could tell he was irritated...but rather then ask or do some of the things i suggested he kept on with business as usual. so edventually i did start "faking" to keep the "peace" it has been about 22 years now. my dilema is that i'm so used to NOT orgasming that i almost can't....this is really an embarrassing problem....

Are you saying that you don't masturbate either?

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 2:37:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy
quote:

ORIGINAL: phillip08
men should not cum or orgasm until the woman they are with is satisfied.   things that focus on their partner, (in or out of the dom sub realm) then the rewards for both will be endless..

I have no idea what this dude is talking about....Here's the deal,  you go about your business and then leave! If she wants satisfaction, ram a Snickers bar up her cunt before you're out the door..


Domiguy you are a bad lad....surely you should have said before you went to sleep ?

If the Snickers is still there when you awake well...its up to you what you do with it !

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 2:37:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

quote:

ORIGINAL: imthatacheyouhav

i have a problem in this area....iwhen i 1st got married i wouldnt "fake" orgams but i wouldnt have any either...my husband noticed this and i could tell he was irritated...but rather then ask or do some of the things i suggested he kept on with business as usual. so edventually i did start "faking" to keep the "peace" it has been about 22 years now. my dilema is that i'm so used to NOT orgasming that i almost can't....this is really an embarrassing problem....

Are you saying that you don't masturbate either?

i do now yes....well when i have permission.....

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 2:50:29 PM   
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I cannot, to this day, orgasm from vaginal penetration.
I have tried to many times, it just doesnt happen. I need clitoral stimulation. Also, I need clitoral stimulation for AT LEAST 20-30 minutes before I might orgasm and that is if I am really horny. Many times it will take much longer.
I cannot use a vibrator while having sex because usually to orgasm because I cannot focus on my fantasy while having vaginal penetration. Its almost as though too much is going on for me. I need to have almost complete silence and a very detailed fantasy before I can orgasm.
I have had men who insist on f*cking until I cum and see it as some sort of challenge. It feels good but after 30 or 40 minutes of going nonstop I start to get sore and tired, and I KNOW I will not orgasm from this, but some men refuse to take that as an answer, so I fake it.
Often I will just masturbate myself and have them suck on my nipples or something to assist me. I know just how I like it

~M~


it's so great to find out I'm not the only one!!  I am the exact same as you on each and every point.  
And your eyes need to be closed too, right?

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 2:56:49 PM   
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Mistress and BossyShoeBitch..I'm right there with ylou ladies to an extent. Many things very similar with you. I also have a very difficult time from vaginal penetration. Lots of clitoral stimulation is a must.

For the OP I think I faked once or twice during the one vanilla relationship I had. Otherwise I simply don't understand what faking acccomplishes for me. After all, if I fake it then from there on out he's going to think that those actions are what it takes to make me orgasm. In my opinion that isn't teaching him anything but how NOT to get me over the edge.

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 2:57:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mistress

I cannot, to this day, orgasm from vaginal penetration.
I have tried to many times, it just doesnt happen. I need clitoral stimulation. Also, I need clitoral stimulation for AT LEAST 20-30 minutes before I might orgasm and that is if I am really horny. Many times it will take much longer.
I cannot use a vibrator while having sex because usually to orgasm because I cannot focus on my fantasy while having vaginal penetration. Its almost as though too much is going on for me. I need to have almost complete silence and a very detailed fantasy before I can orgasm.
I have had men who insist on f*cking until I cum and see it as some sort of challenge. It feels good but after 30 or 40 minutes of going nonstop I start to get sore and tired, and I KNOW I will not orgasm from this, but some men refuse to take that as an answer, so I fake it.
Often I will just masturbate myself and have them suck on my nipples or something to assist me. I know just how I like it

~M~


i could have written this.....

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RE: Faking Orgasm - 4/25/2007 4:47:34 PM   
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Some of this is SO sad, makes me want to cry.  I am going to start a new public service campaign to maintain an hour of foreplay before sex.  Women can come during intercourse if you know what you are doing.  I am bit out of shape to do this well, but with some much welcome inspiration that will soon change.  Anyway, as one thrusts into a woman you contract the stomach muscles and arch your back.  The causes the head of the cock to ride the top of the vaginal canal and ride up and over the G spot.  Huge difference in sensation for the woman.  Another thing is to remember that the clitoris is often important, so somebody better be playing with it.  If I want a woman to cum from intercourse, I just cheat.  You go down on her, make her almost cum a couple of times and one time when she is close slide in and go for it.. 

Anal sex can be orgasmic for a couple of reasons but one is that there is a place behind and below the cervix that is pretty deep in the vagina but when fucking someone in the ass from behind it, the cock tends to ride over it.  It can be a source of great pleasure.

Then again you could just look her in the eye and laugh.  Works for me.

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