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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 10:20:23 AM   
SeeksOnlyOne


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I wish we had a little counter we could look up to see how many people have blocked us....that would rather twink me some; I think, to see how big my number was.

Ron


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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 10:29:16 AM   
Najakcharmer


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Status: offline 		The role of "dom/me" defines someone in a personal relationship, much like the roles of "husband" or "mother.  It can also define a sexual orientation such as "heterosexual" or "homosexual".  It's probably not polite to cuss out somebody's mother or husband either, whether they are gay or straight, but that's not because of the relationship they have with other people.

If you are attempting to view "dom/me" as a general social status rather than a sexual orientation or relationship role, I think that is a fundamental mistake.  A man may well identify himself as a husband and a father, but it would be rather messy and confusing if he expected every heterosexual woman on the planet to treat him like her husband.  There are other words for a man who behaves in that manner, and some of them probably fall into the category you are objecting to.

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 10:35:07 AM   
LATEXBABY64


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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissSCD
LA, I don't know who you are or what your problem is, but you are now blocked.
Pretty soon, half of this site will be blocked on my list.
Regards, MissSCD
 
I understand know what she means.. It is having class and being something more then just someone from the hood that is a slob.. because if you have manners it also shows someone you appreciate what they do and who they are
My oh my...but that was rude.  Is your slave taking notes?

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 10:35:26 AM   
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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 11:14:19 AM   
thetammyjo


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Status: offline 		Beyond the basic politeness of one human being to another, I don't expect anything from someone in the BDSM community just because of their role or orientation.

I'm happy to answer to polite terms (Miss, Ma'am, Ms. Eckhart) but not familiar terms (Mistress, Milady) or what I consider inflated terms (Goddess, Queen).

One someone gets to know me as a friend I expect to be called TammyJo, again regardless of their orientation or role. Unless it makes them uncomfortable then the general polite terms of variations (Miss TammyJo) are ok.

I get very protective of Fox in the reverse situations -- been known to walk away when someone has called him "boy" or "slave" and then forbid him from interacting with that rude person again.

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 11:42:40 AM   
MissSCD


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Status: offline 		There is no possible way to reason with idiots.  I have tried to do this with this site for a long time, and you all want to do is attack a simple statement. 
I do not care if you like me or not, but leave my slave out of it.  He has nothing to do with this.
You all need to check on your manners because most of you are some where in left field and I don't want to waste my time on a bunch of losers.

Regards, MissSCD

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 11:48:25 AM   
camille65


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ORIGINAL: MissSCD

There is no possible way to reason with idiots.  I have tried to do this with this site for a long time, and you all want to do is attack a simple statement. 
I do not care if you like me or not, but leave my slave out of it.  He has nothing to do with this.
You all need to check on your manners because most of you are some where in left field and I don't want to waste my time on a bunch of losers.

Regards, MissSCD


I think I now understand why you say you don't get the respect or honorifics that you deserve.
People tend to get back what they give out. By calling us all a bunch of losers is not proper manners from.................anyone.

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 11:49:11 AM   
SmokingGun82


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Status: offline 		SCD,

The difference between "a sub/slave" and "your sub/slave" would be, as others have suggested, important in this issue. In situations where there's no explicit relationship, basic manners are all anyone has reason to expect.

Personally, I've been accused of being "rude" for giggling when someone introduced themselves to me as "Master Such and Such" or "Mistress Whatever." And for not using those terms with them. No matter who you are, or what your station is, respect, beyond simple politeness, has to be earned.


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Proper capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my Uncle Jack off a horse" and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse."

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 12:00:43 PM   
thetammyjo


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ORIGINAL: SmokingGun82

SCD,

The difference between "a sub/slave" and "your sub/slave" would be, as others have suggested, important in this issue. In situations where there's no explicit relationship, basic manners are all anyone has reason to expect.

Personally, I've been accused of being "rude" for giggling when someone introduced themselves to me as "Master Such and Such" or "Mistress Whatever." And for not using those terms with them. No matter who you are, or what your station is, respect, beyond simple politeness, has to be earned.



You might want to work on controlling the giggles (I'm betting where you can see that might rub people the wrong way) but me and mine would never say you were rude frankly because it would never cross my mind to introduce myself as anything other than TammyJo.

I even stopped saying "This is my slave, Fox" because some folks assumed it then gave them a right to call him slave fox or worse simply slave or boy. Now I say "This is Fox, my slave." Fox is always a gentleman in return but he is under my orders to not use anything other than basic polite terms for anyone other than me. In general it hasn't been a big problem for him because general politeness goes a long way.

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 12:09:57 PM   
RCdc


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Status: offline 		I believe that the 'problem' you are getting in the responses is because your OP comes across as a little one sided - that the orientation is that which counts for politeness - it doesn't depend on orientation Respect and politeness are two different things.
 
You state that your slave would not curse another dominant.  But this does not count for yourself who is allowed to?  (ie - losers) Does this mean that dominants may curse and name call both dominants and slave/submissives?
I just do not understand the double standard, quite frankly.
 
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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 12:10:36 PM   
feastie


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ORIGINAL: MissSCD

There is no possible way to reason with idiots.  I have tried to do this with this site for a long time, and you all want to do is attack a simple statement. 
I do not care if you like me or not, but leave my slave out of it.  He has nothing to do with this.
You all need to check on your manners because most of you are some where in left field and I don't want to waste my time on a bunch of losers.

Regards, MissSCD


A simple statement?  A statement that at best, was full of ego over what you deem you deserve based on your orientation, and expect that any all should give it to you because you say you deserve it. 

I agreed with you on the cursing, and still do.  But the rest of your sense of entitlement, your thinking that it's somehow your job, your right, your duty to somehow force everyone else to line up with your way of thinking is ludicrous. 

This site, the views of the participants and their ways of doing wiiwd may not meet your personal expectations, but then, you should only be concerned with what goes on in your own house, shouldn't you? 

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 12:11:32 PM   
vltava


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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

So if a dom came up to your sub and said something really nasty to them, you would expect them to answer in a respectful and courteous manner?


I would expect my sub not to answer at all.  Either:

1) It is part of play, in which case the other dom requires permission from me first.
2) It is abuse.  That is not in the spirit of the Lifestyle and it is not okay.

I would do my best to diplomatically steer his attention from my sub to me.  We will probably not be playing with him, since he does not appear to know how to behave, so the conversation is likely to be short, but there is no reason for me to lose my civility, and no reason for my sub to dignify him with a response at all.

< Message edited by vltava -- 8/9/2007 12:42:34 PM >

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 12:29:37 PM   
LATEXBABY64


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Status: offline 		i guess its a part of class my post did not come out right so i will put it this way people respect people with manners its nice to be appreciated in a formal way

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 12:32:47 PM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		The over inflated egos of some people never cease to humour me.

Take into consideration that for all we know.......you are a 15 yo male minor typing out his happy little fantasy...........

Manners are one thing, you can expect them but your probably not going to get them from everyone you would hope to. Yammering on and on about the lack thereof, in others, in an internet format.......just bad form and to be honest, pathetic.

Have you nothing better to do with your time?


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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 12:34:12 PM   
Najakcharmer


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Status: offline 		Yeah.  Cuz I am Teh Uber Domme and anyone who dares to disagree with me is a total loser, and Not A Real Dom or Sub.  Everyone knows that being Uber Domme confers a special status in society that everyone is required to recognize and respect.  If they don't kowtow properly to your Uber Domliness, I say whip out the riding crop and beat'em.   Why, the last time an impertinent cashier at the grocery store refused to call me Mistress, I had him hogtied for whipping in no time flat.  I should be out on bail any day now. 

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 12:40:33 PM   
slaveish


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Status: offline 		I just got a message from some SuperDomly dude calling me a sexually frustrated whore because I didn't want to hook up for a wild cum-laden night of perpetual fuckdom.

Mm.

Perhaps I should have been more polite in my response.

(And I think I should mention that he said he didn't know "what the fuck is wrong with all you "lifestyle" losers who say this site isn't all about fucking.")

~chuckle~

< Message edited by slaveish -- 8/9/2007 12:48:16 PM >

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 1:19:27 PM   
SmokingGun82


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Status: offline 		TammyJo,

Of course I understand why it would rub someone the wrong way... and it's something that, if I know someone is going to introduce themselves as Master Whatever, I can dutifully smile, shake their hand, and all that fun stuff. But if someone catches me offguard, or demands that I call them Master/Mistress... as one or two have... well, at that point it's a flat-out laugh.

And I'd expect others to do the same if I started introducing myself as Lord Master King Emperor Mike. :)


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Proper capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my Uncle Jack off a horse" and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse."

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 1:23:40 PM   
windchymes


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ORIGINAL: MissSCD

There is no possible way to reason with idiots. 

Regards, MissSCD


You've made that quite apparent.

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 2:27:16 PM   
Celeste43


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ORIGINAL: MissSCD

My slave was trained in NYC 30 years ago, and I can assure you that he can distingush between geniune and idiots.   It is my rule for him to treat all Dom/mes with respect.  Which simply means Yes Ma'am or Yes Sir.
I say Yes Ma'am and Yes Sir.

Regards, MissSCD


That's your rule, that he acts submissively towards anyone who self identifies as dominant. It isn't The Man's rule. His rule is that I do not act submissively towards anyone but him.

You are in the wrong for expecting everyone else to adhere to your rules.

Oh, and my personal rule for myself? Treat with disdain every idiot who demands they be respected because they claim they are dominant. Unless you're my dominant, you don't have the right to give me orders. By demanding every other submissive in the world follows your rules, you are demanding that people you have never met submit to you. I may be a submissive but I'm not your submissive and therefore I do not follow your rules and your orders. You need to grow up and learn that you earn respect from people, you don't get it otherwise.

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RE: Proper Manners from a sub to a Dom/me. - 8/9/2007 2:47:15 PM   
MzMia


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ORIGINAL: domiguy

You all should be fucking ashamed of yourselves....The op has strictly followed CM forum etiquette....She publicly announced that she was blocking LA prior to the actual blocking.....It is extremely important to make the announcement. The announcement is the critical part of the blocking process!  Otherwise, how are you to know that you have been blocked?  What were to happen if the op were to stroke out tonight?...LA would never know the course of action that the op had chosen to take....In my discussions with God, he has made it very clear...An announced block is a demerit towards reaching heaven, you accumulate too many "announced blocks" and you are pretty much screwed!....I'm fairly fucked at this point...But since Mz Mia has removed from blockage...and announced it..I can see a slight hint of light at the end of the tunnel. 

There are plenty of Doms and subs alike that frequent this site that could use a good ass fucking...None of them happen to be me.

I simply don't understand why all of you motherfuckers that post here cannot find the ability to be fucking polite and conduct yourselves in an appropriate fucking fashion.


Alrighty Now! The BLOCK Queen is here.
I have been "called up" by the DomiGuy.
 
I am here to announce the newest member on this site that I have decided to BLOCK.

I will not publically state his name, but the first letter begins with an L.

Right now, I have about 3 of you on block, but that number can always change!

Domi? I am suggesting that we only give the first initial of the screen name we are blocking, when
we make our block announcements.
This will keep people guessing, and save the blocked person from public humiliation.
I am proposing a kinder and gentler form of BLOCKING~

< Message edited by MzMia -- 8/9/2007 3:31:06 PM >

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