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ORIGINAL: Grlwithboy

I've definitely given the directive "please kick my ass if I don't...." etc.

This doesn't work with everyone, obviously, but some people can get their head to go there.

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ORIGINAL: ocilla
I love this.  BoiJen - you are too cute for words. That playful dynamic that you describe could be a lot of fun and your way of doing the exercises anyway is too funny.  Thanks to for the info on your specfic routine.

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ORIGINAL: daddyscherry

i've been right there with you all the way dawntreader.

i want to be a personal trainer when i "grow up" and will be taking the steps toward certification in the fall.

my Daddy hires personal trainers, so that by paying and making an appointment it forces him to go.He doesn't even let them tell him what he will do, they are stictly there for him to keep an appointment with.

This same tactic would not work with us, even after i am certified because he could very easily tell me "No i wont do this or that or eat this or that"

i think i could train a Dominant that wasn't my Master, just a random Dom. i could be motivational and educational...but ultimately the biggest steps must come from inside of the person doing the workout.

Greetings daddyscherry ( neat nic btw)

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ORIGINAL: dawntreader

Greetings daddyscherry ( neat nic btw)
 
i used to work as a personal trainer for a short period for a health club before they required certification for such ( now i am dating myself!LOL!) Now i am pursuing a path of Holistic Health - Body, Mind and Spirit. i feel this  approach manefests more longterm benifits and reprogramming for a more positive approach to health. Staying motivated is very hard for most people and as i have said in prior posts, self-motivation is paramount for success~

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

There is no reason a submissive cannot be a personal trainer.  There are numerous examples in many walks of life where those of a lesser rank or station were the teachers to those of higher rank.

Many of the military training commands have enlisted personnel as instructors, and they teach all manner of officers.  During training, the officers listen to the intructors, and follow their instructions diligently.  The instructors still address the officer/trainees as "Sir"

In ancient Rome, many a patrician family owned slaves whose duty was to educate the children of the household. 

If the submissive is respectful of the dominant's desire to learn, and the dominant is mindful of the submissive's capacity to teach, there should not be any great difficulty.  There may be a need to modify some of such protocols as exist between Dominant and submissive, but beyond that, I do not see any difficulty with a submissive being a personal trainer to her Dominant.

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ORIGINAL: daddyscherry

i couldn't agree more about it taking all parts of someone to really acheive a goal of fitness. Being physically fit isn't enough. You could work all you want in the gym and if you don't have the mental and emotional desire to keep with it, or goals that supercede asthetics (sp) then real change won't happen.


(gawd i hope i make sense lol)

Perfect sense, actually

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ORIGINAL: ocilla

People arrive at motivation in many different ways and there is something to be said for those who try and fail, try and fail, try and fail, try and succeed then fail, but try again and never stop trying, till eventually the trying starts to outweigh the failings and equals a success.  Not having all the pieces in place is no reason to not strive for something better - in fact this is a valid way to achieve a goal and actually get all the key pieces in place.  Perhaps you do not have the patience to be close to such a struggle.

i agree with you, having everything in place is not a reason to not strive for something better and you will still be going forward as long as you are taking action.That said, once you engage your mind into things, with understanding of what you are doing,eating and true focus on each little task on the way then you will be going forward at a faster more concentrated rate.

Refer to the long standing psychology debate of behavior therapy (doing and practice) versus talk therapy (cognitive understanding) and you may get the idea. The best success usually does come from a combined approach.  And I see the trainers role to be about the behavior, doing and practice component.

That all depends on the trainer. Some are much more motivational and knowledgable than others. It's great to have someone who can take you through all of the exercises and stuff but to have one that teaches you how to eat, what to eat, when and why to eat your foods after a workout....one who makes you feel on fire inside to come back time after time...THAT to me is a real personal trainer. And this seems to combine your example above.

You mention mind, body, spirit as the best approach and I agree.  But getting to the mind and spirit is not necessarily the job of the trainer nor does it require the trainer to be forceful or in a dominant position in my opinion, but it does require understanding and compassion. 

i think a great trainer gets into all 3, BUT not in the life coach or therapist or religious kind of way...more like a cheerleader who has alot of knowledge of what food and exercise can do for your body and how they can change the way you feel on a whole. If you work out and eat right then the changes will begin to happen automatically. Understanding and compassion are huge components as far as i'm concernered. If you don't feel like you are being looked at for the individual you are and aren't being treated on a personal level for YOU and they don't understand you & your goals then as far as i'm concerned they are just a 3D book...they re telling you what to do and that is it.

 As for a sub being a trainer - he would only be in the role of practice - I would not, could not hold a sub responsible for my fundamental motivation.  But that does not mean that I times I might fail or that I might be reluctant on ocassion - and it also does not mean that I won't keep trying.

Of course only you can be responsible for your true motivation but a trainer who adds extra motivation to the recipe is worth alot.  Only you can make yourself go to the gym, gawd knows i've been in and out of them and on and off of them myself. It could get tricky with a sub, if the sub is Yours....because if they push or prod or "nag" (trying to be motivational) it could back fire or it may be difficult or impossible to do.....i could make all kinds of healthy eating choices and do what i do in the gym but that doesn't mean that i could even think for a second that i could get MY Daddy to do what i do or eat what i eat (someone else's Daddy maybe, if i were just their trainer)