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completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 9:54:16 AM   
JillianElaine


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i am new to collarme and new to the forums... and i think this is my first post... i don't know whether this question should best be asked to other submissives or to Dominants, so i believe i will post it in both places... as my soul feels stretched thin.

i had always thought myself to be an experienced submissive, having served two Doms... one ended peacefully, the second i served til his death.  i took a break from the lifestyle after that pain and moved into vanilla which ended "not peacefully". 

During the "not peacefully" i met a dominant man... naturally dominant... who holds a strength of character and determination of self which i have never experienced before.  I happily settled with him as i found him incredibly attractive, honorable and true.  His physical beauty/heightened masculinity and intelligence has me in a vice grip.

We have a wonderful day to day life.  I am safe and protected.  We laugh and enjoy each others company and account for 95% of each others time.

His understanding Ds is not as great as mine.  he has read some, and would read more if he knew what to read... however things must flow to him instead of me pushing books and reading on him.

My distress is found in our sexuality. 

His mind is quite sociopathic.  He has no emotional feelings.  For him sex is tied up in power over the woman.  In how much they want him and how he can deny them once they have had him.  He goes through 2 perhaps 3 women each week in this manner.  Breaking hearts left and right.

He explains that sex to him is simply a task to get to the power over the "toys"... and that his love is with me.  That for the first time in his life he has a feeling of love and that it comes from my understanding and acceptance and support of him. 

He goes on to say that when we (he and I) are sexual, it is love and it is passion.  That it is not a task for him in any way, but an honest expression of his care for me.

These moments are few few few and far far far in between.  We are talking 4 to 6 to 8 weeks in between being wanted/desired, and during those times, he is working his toys... phone calls, emails, sex.  The sexual vibe is always heavy in the house.

My pulse is heightened, my breath is always quickened, my arousal seems always present.  Yet there is no want of me.  There is no desire from him for me.

So why do i stay..  because he.. we.. have become everything to me. because so much is good.  I have never felt this deep and genuine and immense care, love and attraction in my life.  And i have never had the love of a highly attractive man... i have always been the unattractive girl. maybe this is how it is.

so what is my question... how can i get through the weeks when I am near insane with desire.  as when i do communicate my want for him... he punishes the push with an even greater wait and mental upset of how unappreciative of everything i Do have.

i am so hungry for subspace at the moment, i am considering things dangerous to everything i value.

please give me some guidance of how to keep my head focused. 


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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 10:36:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JillianElaine

For him sex is tied up in power over the woman. In how much they want him and how he can deny them once they have had him.



Do or do not. If he is unwilling to compromise on the issue, you must decide, do you wish to keep the relationship as it is, or find something else? You could ask the alternative of being allowed your own play partners, for the long times when he has no need of you, but that may not be satisfying for you.
It seems to me, he is getting his physical needs met and denying you, and really, by denying you for so long, in essence doing the same thing to you he does to the other girls. The only exception is, he comes back to you repeatedly. Is the physical intimacy something you merely want, or is it something you need to be happy? Only you can define that for yourself.

You sound as if you are very happy with the day-to-day aspects of your life, and the companionship he offers. You might try to discuss methods for your own physical needs, that do not tax him, if he finds more frequency to be less desirable. Performances you could give to him, in which you find sexual fulfillment, without him being required to exert effort. A form of entertainment even, a way to feel sexual in his presence, without putting any pressure on him to perform or plan anything.

See if he is open to alternative methods first, or if it is his desire that you remain unfulfilled, if he specifically wants you to be lacking, then any alternative which gives you a sense of contentment will obviously be rejected, but if it is merely a case of wanting to seperate his intimate, loving expression with you, from the more ruthless cold manner he uses with other 'toys' he may give thought to some alternative ways in which he can feel not put upon, and you can express yourself sexually to him.

It sounds like you truely are happy with this man as your companion so I won't spout the whole "Get what you need or walk" drivel, you're obviously getting some very important forms of companionship and excitment. Be open minded and creative, and try to discern the very heart of what you need to be happy, and assert yourself to bring those ideas to him of how perhaps both of you could be happy.

As far as doing something you may regret, just consider first, how long will a fix of sub-space last, and how long does a good companionship last? Endangering a relationship you want to keep, for a couple hours of satisfaction, can be a very bad trade off if you are not prepared for the consequences.

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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 10:43:09 AM   
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He has put you into a category to which you do not wish to belong.  The first thing that you'd best do is put any notion that he is broken and you need to fix him right out of your mind.  He's not likely to change, and will only resent the attempt on your part.  If you can't be both the sex toy and the romantic interest to this particular man, you need to decide whether you can and want to be the latter.  If not, it's time to go, if so, it's time to understand and accept your place in his life.

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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 10:53:49 AM   
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You describe him as sociopathic.  If this is your sincere belief and not an exaggeration, then know that you are dealing with a man who, in a very literal way, has no soul.  Empathy and interconnectedness with others is not and will never be a part of his makeup.

My advice to you is to RUN.  Get far far away from this man and everything associated with him.  Put him in your past and leave him there.  If he is "breaking hearts" at a pace of two or three every week, it is only a matter of time before he adds you to the casualty list.  Given that you are a particular fascination for him, the possibility that he might seriously hurt you physically cannot be discounted.

Get away from him.  Cut off all contact with him.  If need be, get counseling to deal with the emotional aftermath of cutting him out of your life.  But get away from him.

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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 11:25:20 AM   
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JillianElaine,
 
Please listen to me very carefully, because at this point I am terrified for you.   RUN, do not walk, away from this man as fast as you can.  You are in extreme danger with him.  If you stay with this man, he will hurt you in ways that will scar you for life emotionally and possibly physically.  I speak from experience here.  I was a slave to a sociopathic, emotionally abusive man.  It started out as us being friends.  He was charming, extremely intelligent, funny, and in general fun to talk to.  I grew to respect him.  As soon as I became his slave, everything changed, and because of the damage he did, I have had to work very hard to regain my sense of self-worth.  Nobody is worth giving that up for.   Relationships are a two-way street.   
 
Look at what you are already saying: 
 
There is no desire from him for me.....He has no emotional feelings.....how can i get through the weeks when I am near insane with desire.  as when i do communicate my want for him... he punishes the push with an even greater wait and mental upset of how unappreciative of everything i Do have.....i am so hungry for subspace at the moment, i am considering things dangerous to everything i value.....

NOTHING you do will EVER ever be good enough for this man. 
 
He is mentally ill:
 
ANTI-SOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER DSM IV 301.70
EXPLANATION
Individuals with an Antisocial Personality Disorder show a lack of concern toward the expectations and rules of society and usually frequently become involved in at least minor violations of the rules of society and the rights of others.  A popular term for this type of individual is “sociopath”.  Although the diagnosis is limited to those persons over eighteen years of age, it usually involves a history of antisocial behavior before the age of fifteen.  The individual often displays a pattern of lying, truancy, delinquency, substance abuse, running away from home and may have difficulty with the law.  As an adult, the person often commits acts that are against the law and/or fails to live up to the requirements of a job, financial responsibility, or parenting responsibilities.  They tend to have difficulty sustaining a long term marital relationship and frequently are involved in alcohol and drug abuse. 
SYMPTOMS
The signs and symptoms include:
  1. Lack of concern regarding society’s rules and expectations.
  2. Repeated violations of the rights of others.
  3. Unlawful behavior.
  4. Lack of regard for the truth
  5. In parents, neglect or abuse of children.
  6. Lack of a steady job.  Frequent job changes through quitting and/or being fired
  7. Tendencies toward physical aggression and extreme irritability.

TREATMENT
Currently, there is no widely accepted effective method of treating sociopathic personality types.  They tend to be very manipulative during treatment and tend to lie and cover up personal faults in themselves and have little insight into their behavior patterns.  They tend to exhibit short-term enthusiasm for treatment, particularly after an incident which has brought them into contact with society or the law, however, once this anxiety is relieved and reduced, they frequently drop out of treatment and fall back into the same sociopathic patterns that brought them into treatment initially.  In most cases, the prognosis remains unfavorable throughout the individual’s life-span.
An Antisocial Personality Disorder is not just a medical term for criminality.  It describes a long term pervasive personality disorder that is very resistant to treatment.  Suicide, alcoholism, vagrancy, social isolation are common among these individuals, but there is a remarkable lack of anxiety or depression for situations in which these emotions are usually expected.  In spite of their run-ins with the law, they usually present a very charming and normal facade.  Dynamically, these individuals remain fixed in earlier levels of development.  Usually there is parental rejections and/or indifference and needs for satisfaction and security are not met.  As a result, psychoanalytic theory holds that the ego which controls impulses between conscience and impulses is underdeveloped.  Behavior is usually id directed due to this lack of ego strength, a result is a need for immediate gratification.  An immature superego allows the individual to pursue gratification regardless of the means and without experiencing any of the feelings of guilt.  Functioning has been implicated as an important doctrine in determining whether an individual develops this disorder.  Usually the following circumstances are predisposed factors:
  1. Absence of parental discipline.
  2. Extreme poverty.
  3. Removal from the home.
  4. Growing up without parental figures of both sexes.
  5. Erratic, inconsistent discipline.
  6. Being “rescued” each time the person is in trouble and never having to suffer the consequences of his own behavior.
  7. Maternal deprivation and lack of an appropriate “attachment”.

This problem is much more prevalent in males than females.  If present in females, it usually occurs at the onset of puberty.  In males the onset is usually earlier on in childhood.  Behaviors can diminish somewhat after the age of thirty when the individual seems to “mellow out” and learns more effective ways of staying within the system.  Clients tend to be very manipulative and lack motivation for change.  They very rarely seek therapy voluntarily and they are usually forced into therapy through some involvement with the law or other aspects of their life.  History also reveals significant impairment in social, marital, and occupational functioning.  Therapists relate that these clients tend to lack emotional attachment to others.  They tend to be personable, charming, and engaging and are usually above average in intelligence.  This demeanor, however, is often a pretense intended to deceive others and facilitate the exploitation of others.  Emotional reactions tend to be extreme and these individuals tend to lack concern for other people’s feelings, be preoccupied with their own interests, and tend to have grandiose expressions of their own importance.  Insight and judgment are usually poor as is their responsiveness to therapy.  Therapy should focus on helping the individual develop a trusting relationship with other significant people in their lives; children, spouses, etc.  The client also needs to learn healthy ways to deal with anxiety and learn to postpone or defer gratification of impulses as a positive step toward developing a more mature and socially more positive way of interacting with others.  Focus should also be on promoting development of alternate constructive methods of interacting with others rather than manipulation for self gain.  Progress should be measured in terms of self control and use of appropriately assertive rather than aggressive behaviors to gain desired responses.   Anxiety and frustration also need to be recognized and diminished and the client also needs to focus on appropriate means of management of these two emotions which tend to cause the greatest conflict with authority and others.  Response to therapy is usually very poor, tends to be long term.  However, most of these clients do discontinue therapy prematurely and only remain if forced or coerced which further complicates treatment.
 
Please check out these links to help protect yourself:
 
http://www.kalimunro.com/newsletter5.html#links
 
http://www.womanabuseprevention.com/html/emotional_abuse_facts.html
 
http://www.womanabuseprevention.com/html/emotional_abuse.html
 
http://www.womanabuseprevention.com/html/abuse_signs.html
 
He tells you that for the first time in his life,  he has a feeling of love and that it stems from your acceptance of him as he is.......that is bullshit.  He is saying that to control you.  He is incapable of feeling emotion.  I am sorry if I am coming across too forcefully, but I am truly terrified for you.  Nobody has the right to do what he's doing.  If you are interested, please send me a private e-mail and I will give you my Yahoo i.d. and we can further chat about this if you'd like.  I will be happy to offer whatever assistance I can. 
 
Taryn
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 11:48:06 AM   
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I have dated a similar type of guy. Sigh, Paul.

I adore him, yet he is NOT marriage material.  He is too cold and distant, waiting for his Mrs. Right. 

Don't be confused. You know deep in your heart it isn't LOVE, it is LUST that holds you and makes you return again and again, however unjustified that 'cuming' back is.

He is an ass, but he is a 'good piece of ass' right???? lol

He is doubtfully a sociopath, he is merely just a selfish cold-hearted prick. God that's hawwwwwwwt.

I am not sure about the looks comments, but sometimes in situations like this, looks don't matter.  Your drive, his drive AT THE TIME, and given moment is what matters.  With Paul, I was the goodlooking one, I was the hottie he couldn't control (unless he had me under his roof). Maybe that was the downfall.

How do you survive this? Seems like you still want to exist in his world? How can you make him appreciate you more than the 'other' gals?

Answer??? simple,

you are submissive to his whims!

Do you honestly think (especially since he doesn't seek or pursue bdsm culture) that another submissive will grab him and take him away?? lol, not to mention that any 'average' woman would tolerate him for a week? 2 weeks, 3? of not calling and acting so callous towards them once he is done (sex, the deed, the dead roll-over)???? LOLLLLLLL

He most likely goes to bed in shock and awe that you are the best thing that ever happened to him and that he is undeserving of your time, attention and adoration (and good sex).

advice? sure, ok, YOU wait for him to call, you call him occasionally to remind him you are still there, but NEVER, EVER demand or make a threat of 'consequencial dispersal' without meaning it.

Be cool, and YOU should ALWAYS sleep as well as he does.

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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 12:16:07 PM   
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There's no way to know for sure if the man is or is not a truly sociopathic person.  That being said, the behavior the OP ascribes to him, "going through" two or three women each week, does lend some credibility to the description.

The sense I get from the OP is that she does not desire to be hurt, neither emotionally nor physically; The punishments he imposes on her for expressing her needs and desires appear to fall outside the boundaries to which she ordinarily would consent.  Her situation, so far as she describes it, strikes Me as one rife with potential for emotional if not physical abuse.

I advise her to get out of the situation ASAP, simply because that is the one sure way to know she will not get hurt.

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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 12:31:30 PM   
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To the OP:

A forum is not the place to ask for help with this. You need to speak to a Kink Aware Professional.

Please, everyone else, leave diagnosis to the professionals. There's a million different things that could be going on here, including there being nothing wrong (in a clinical sense) with the guy. But the woman asked for help, which armchair psychology is not going to provide. This situation is too complicated and potentially volatile to screw around with guesswork on a forum. She needs to speak to someone in person, someone qualified.


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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 12:36:42 PM   
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Amazingly enough...I agree with you.  Hence my advice to her to seek counseling.

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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 12:42:17 PM   
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You are absolutely right.  She does need to seek professional guidance and I did neglect to add that to my reply. Thank You for reinforcing that.
 
Taryn
 
 

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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 12:46:05 PM   
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Because she mentions the word 'sociopathic' in her own definition? Pretty well the concensus in my pea brain of voices he is merely a cold-ass player.  Nothing more, nothing less.

If that word wasn't in her origional question, people wouldn't be jumping on any bandwagon to push him/her towards therapy. 

ridikurus (says the chinese man with 14 chins).

ps. Being in luv/lust with someone who doesn't give us the time of day is not necessarily therapy-running material. It is called, handle it or get off the frukn boat.

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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 12:50:05 PM   
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I have read our post a few times to make sure I wasnt missing anything. It seems to me, and I may be wrong, that you are more attached to the image of him.
""His physical beauty/heightened masculinity and intelligence has me in a vice grip.""
Everything else seems to be either negative or neutral.
Now I am going to touch on a very touchy subject but before I do I do want to tell you that I am a Big Man, a BHM which is the same as a BBW in a man.
Could it be that because of his beauty you are hooked? Sometimes people of size get blinded when someone of "normal" size shows an interest.
I am not saying that this is the case for you but as someone who has been there I just wanted to put it out there.
Its not a slam on you or anyone of size I want to be very clear on that.

William 

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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 12:54:22 PM   
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I forgot to mention that I disagree, however, with the idea that this isn't the place to get advice.  Most people don't automatically run to their nearest mental health care professional for counseling and are likely to ask other people before doing so.  I personally see nothing wrong with someone asking in a forum such as this, and to tell someone that this isn't the place to post these kinds of issues only serves to drive them away.  Ultimately, the choice is hers to make regarding leaving or staying but to turn people in such situations away because it may make some people uncomfortable is to neglect our duty to help our fellow man.  This is only my opinion though.  A question if I may....would You, upon hearing the cries for help of a drowning person, turn Your back and walk away saying that this is a job for a professional lifeguard?  Just a thought.
 
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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 1:06:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: came4U

Because she mentions the word 'sociopathic' in her own definition? Pretty well the concensus in my pea brain of voices he is merely a cold-ass player.  Nothing more, nothing less.

If that word wasn't in her origional question, people wouldn't be jumping on any bandwagon to push him/her towards therapy. 

ridikurus (says the chinese man with 14 chins).

ps. Being in luv/lust with someone who doesn't give us the time of day is not necessarily therapy-running material. It is called, handle it or get off the frukn boat.


Actually, no.  Even if she hadn't used that word....sociopathic....his actions as described by her would have caught my attention immediately.  My response would have been exactly the same. 
 
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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 1:12:43 PM   
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she visits, he is a player, he has other lovers, she digs him.


how is that a necessary for therapy and a "run he may hurt you physically' trip now???

she asks:
quote:

so what is my question... how can i get through the weeks when I am near insane with desire.  as when i do communicate my want for him... he punishes the push with an even greater wait and mental upset of how unappreciative of everything i Do have.

i am so hungry for subspace at the moment, i am considering things dangerous to everything i value.

please give me some guidance of how to keep my head focused. 


where in any of what she said did you read 'OMG MY LIFE IS IN DANGER!"??

You saw that one word and went over the kilter.

She is fine, she is aching for some luvin, attention and frankly, I have been there, the ache makes it much the more appealin' when ya get it.

stiffle the weblinks and wannabe-armchair psychologist sessions.  She perhaps said the wrong word in her formatting.

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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 1:18:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: came4U

she visits, he is a player, he has other lovers, she digs him.


how is that a necessary for therapy and a "run he may hurt you physically' trip now???

she asks:
quote:

so what is my question... how can i get through the weeks when I am near insane with desire.  as when i do communicate my want for him... he punishes the push with an even greater wait and mental upset of how unappreciative of everything i Do have.

i am so hungry for subspace at the moment, i am considering things dangerous to everything i value.

please give me some guidance of how to keep my head focused. 


where in any of what she said did you read 'OMG MY LIFE IS IN DANGER!"??

You saw that one word and went over the kilter.

She is fine, she is aching for some luvin, attention and frankly, I have been there, the ache makes it much the more appealin' when ya get it.

stiffle the weblinks and wannabe-armchair psychologist sessions.  She perhaps said the wrong word in her formatting.



Ok...so she didn't say that particular phrase.  You are correct in that mine was an emotional reaction and that is only b/c of the outcomes of others I have witnessed in similar situations.  Perhaps I should have added that.  Also, I was in a similar situation at one time and I understand very well how people like that get inside the heads of their victims.  If you don't like the links, don't follow them.  For that matter, don't read them.  When you see my pic next to a post, feel free to completely skip over it. 
 
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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 1:27:10 PM   
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I never said that she was wrong to come here. I said there was a better course of action, what it was, and how to take it.

When I have seen people in trouble in the past (run over by a car, getting their MC into the wrong lane, about to commit suicide, collapsing on the street, having a seizure, etc.), I have generally been the first on the scene, and done what I can, organizing others as they get there. Simply put, no, I have never turned my back on anyone in need. But one of the first things to do in just about any such situation, is to get hold of someone who knows how to deal fully with the situation in the long-term.

Nothing wrong with asking here in the first place, and I don't expect people to ask a therapist before going elsewhere.

I'm just saying that this case seems like there could be nothing wrong with the guy at all, or there could be something seriously wrong, and that there is no way we on the forum are going to figure that out on a public thread. Lots more information is needed to find out what this guy's deal is, and tons more to figure out how she fits in that. If she thinks she needs advice or help to deal with this, a KAP is the way to go, as they are sensitive to the issues involved, and can help her cope with the situation if she wants to stay.

In short, she came, she asked, she found out who she should be asking from now on.

If she wants advice, that was mine, and in my opinion there is nothing better to suggest given the limited information available to us.


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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 1:31:33 PM   
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Personally, I wouldn't need links to discuss 'actual' psychosis, nor would I quote crapola symptoms of a socio-psychopath of bare minimum regulation.

I didn't go to school to toss that kind of information (real and privately) to a forum user.  It is nonsense. 

quote:

Ok...so she didn't say that particular phrase.  You are correct in that mine was an emotional reaction and that is only b/c of the outcomes of others I have witnessed in similar situations.  Perhaps I should have added that.  Also, I was in a similar situation at one time and I understand very well how people like that get inside the heads of their victims.  If you don't like the links, don't follow them.  For that matter, don't read them.  When you see my pic next to a post, feel free to completely skip over it.
 

you also dated a player?? and now you want revenge by making this guy worthy of hanging?

1. emotional or not, it was over-reaction or emotion. Unqualified, link giving.

2. I don't click links here.

3. She is his victim?? they have a good time, it seems.  Doesn't seem like she is locked in his dungeon/basement.

4. I will not ignore you because of one minor fault on your part.  I am not a 7 year old at a birthday party and you are not a pinata. 
Believe me, if I had felt her actual life, limb or emotional health had been at risk, I would crawl gently to her to accept my (not mine, but someone in her area's) link of a genuine source.

Over-reaction has a way of demeaning, degrating and ousting persons from accepting bdsm in general and those that have potential to want to endure membership in such lifestyle with another via questions like this.

Even though I edit (a lot), I edit because I make a stupid spelling or grammtical mistake because I am hyper, but what I post, I mean it!!  Think, before you write/post.

I am not your boss nor do you have to listen to me, but if I come here to enjoy a forum conversation, my enjoyment will never be at the expense of another's berevement (in this case) that is subtle yet understandable.

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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 1:34:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aswad

I never said that she was wrong to come here. I said there was a better course of action, what it was, and how to take it.

When I have seen people in trouble in the past (run over by a car, getting their MC into the wrong lane, about to commit suicide, collapsing on the street, having a seizure, etc.), I have generally been the first on the scene, and done what I can, organizing others as they get there. Simply put, no, I have never turned my back on anyone in need. But one of the first things to do in just about any such situation, is to get hold of someone who knows how to deal fully with the situation in the long-term.

Nothing wrong with asking here in the first place, and I don't expect people to ask a therapist before going elsewhere.

I'm just saying that this case seems like there could be nothing wrong with the guy at all, or there could be something seriously wrong, and that there is no way we on the forum are going to figure that out on a public thread. Lots more information is needed to find out what this guy's deal is, and tons more to figure out how she fits in that. If she thinks she needs advice or help to deal with this, a KAP is the way to go, as they are sensitive to the issues involved, and can help her cope with the situation if she wants to stay.

In short, she came, she asked, she found out who she should be asking from now on.

If she wants advice, that was mine, and in my opinion there is nothing better to suggest given the limited information available to us.



Ok.  I understand You pov.  Thank You for explaining it fully
 
Taryn

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RE: completely confused about my place - 8/11/2007 1:48:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: came4U

Personally, I wouldn't need links to discuss 'actual' psychosis, nor would I quote crapola symptoms of a socio-psychopath of bare minimum regulation.

I didn't go to school to toss that kind of information (real and privately) to a forum user.  It is nonsense. 

I am not an expert, nor do I mean to present myself that way.  I do have nursing training, but obviously am not a licensed psychologist/psychiatrist.  I was speaking from my own and the experience of others I've known in similar situations. 

Believe me, if I had felt her actual life, limb or emotional health had been at risk, I would crawl gently to her to accept my (not mine, but someone in her area's) link of a genuine source.

You sound like the kind of friend she would be very fortunate to have.  I provided links with general information I felt may be helpful in assisting her.  She may want to look up organizations or professionals local to her.  I hope she does.

Over-reaction has a way of demeaning, degrating and ousting persons from accepting bdsm in general and those that have potential to want to endure membership in such lifestyle with another via questions like this.

You are right and I want to clarify that I never want to degrade anyone here, and especially not someone in her situation. 

Even though I edit (a lot), I edit because I make a stupid spelling or grammtical mistake because I am hyper, but what I post, I mean it!!  Think, before you write/post.

Point taken and I do understand about being hyper.  I am very hyper myself.  Have been all my life.


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