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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/21/2007 8:35:44 PM   
FatDomDaddy


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Food has not been banned, people have only been asked not to eat at their desks. Being asked and being told is not the same thing at all.



Tell that to the 1000's of US school systems who enforce mandatory volunteerism!
 
Or the firefighter who were asked, the forced to march in a Gay Pride Parade.
 
People are asked all the time to do something with the implied knowledge that failure to do what was asked could be harmful, should they refuse. Surely, this is not news to you?

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/21/2007 9:02:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Being asked, allows the possibility to say no. What does this quoted section say?

" public hospitals have decreed that henceforth no staff may eat lunch at their desks or in their offices during the holy month of Ramadan, "

I think it is all bullshit. Religion should not determine what other people around you can or annot do, as long as it does not infringe on your personal freedoms. If people do not want to be offended, then stay in your home, don't turn on TV, radio, the internet and never speak to another person. This PC bullshit is rampant, and needs to be stopped cold.


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Food has not been banned, people have only been asked not to eat at their desks. Being asked and being told is not the same thing at all.


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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/21/2007 9:11:03 PM   
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As an atheist I tend to go out of my way to be rude to all the religious ass-wipes out there who would seek to impose their particular brand of bullshit upon me.
With the possible exception of the goddess Issis who wants me to eat her pussy and fuck her till her asshole puckers.
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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/21/2007 9:11:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Food has not been banned, people have only been asked not to eat at their desks. Being asked and being told is not the same thing at all.



Tell that to the 1000's of US school systems who enforce mandatory volunteerism!
 
Or the firefighter who were asked, the forced to march in a Gay Pride Parade.
 
People are asked all the time to do something with the implied knowledge that failure to do what was asked could be harmful, should they refuse. Surely, this is not news to you?




"Tell that to the 1000's of US school systems who enforce mandatory volunteerism! "

Not sure what you`re referring to, here.I`ve never heard of "mandatory volunteerism."
Can you give an example of this,and some school systems that "enforce" it?


"Or the firefighter who were asked, the forced to march in a Gay Pride Parade"

Again, I`d like to know what parade you`re talking about.What firefighters were forced,or even asked to march in a gay pride parade?

I think you`re making this up.

 
 
 

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/21/2007 9:13:06 PM   
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Should we cancel Christmas, Easter and Good Friday because we started a war that has caused the deaths over 600,000 Iraqis? I'm sure at least 3,000 of those died on our holidays because FauxNews viewers were too stupid to see through their lying misleaders.

Get out of your tiny mind once in awhile and listen to yourself. You may just be appalled at what you hear.



    I'm not sure why you are trying to link 9/11 and Iraq, Suzanne.  I thought only those baa-ad old Republicans did that.  Or did it just seem convenient?  As the insults were probably easier for you to fling than something radical like thinking about the question?  Asking "what are the chances they'll cancel the party" is a far cry demanding everbody just go to work.  I see a double standard.  Sorry if you have trouble grasping something like that.

   Did you pause before your little spew of talking points and names to consider this is the group that will riot over cartoons they find insensitive?  Better to just label me and assign me a set of values than do that, huh?

     Religious holidays can't be cancelled, Suzanne.  At least not among people whose religion means something.  Thanksgiving, for example, is still Thanksgiving with the whole fam damily, or alone with booze and a steak.  How you mark it is irrelevant.  Ramadan floats on the calendar.  This year, the timing is 'awkward.' 

     I'll ask again.  Do you think the folks who demand such tolerance and sensitivity of us will stay home with family and dear friends to dance and feast on September 11, or head out to the "cultural center" and party like it's 2001?

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/21/2007 9:32:47 PM   
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Interesting that none of this has been reported in the UK.


This looks like an opinion piece, masquerading as news...

Has anyone actually checked to see if this is true?

Or is it just another chance for bigots to rant.



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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/21/2007 10:04:08 PM   
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Interesting that none of this has been reported in the UK.


This looks like an opinion piece, masquerading as news...

Has anyone actually checked to see if this is true?

Or is it just another chance for bigots to rant.




I have checked both the BBC news website and Sky News and this does not appear anywhere. If it has been reported here then it has not been much of a story.

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/21/2007 10:23:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Owner59

This looks like an opinion piece, masquerading as news...

Has anyone actually checked to see if this is true?

Or is it just another chance for bigots to rant.



The Scotland story is apparently from the "Daily Record" which is a newspaper in Scotland. I've not located a link to the story yet but that is apparently where the source is for that story.

For the Italy story....
This is the original news source for the Italy story... But good luck reading it...it's in Italian...
http://www.ilmessaggero.it/articolo.php?id=6368&sez=HOME

This is a summarized translation...
The Italian supreme court recently rejected an appeal by the prosecution in the case of a Moroccan girl who had been beaten by her family, her parents and her brother. The appeal was rejected on the grounds that it was for her own good and for her non-conformity with their culture, she had gone out with a friend and her life style was not accepted by her parents.
This story starts in 2003 when the parents of Fatima R. (19), a Muslim girl from Bologna, were sentenced for tying Fatima up and beating her. The court of appeals reversed the decision and this past week the supreme court confirmed it.
According to the Italian judges that girl had not been beaten out of anger and it was unusual for the father, who had only beat his daughter three times in his life.
According to the prosecution Fatima had been tied to a chair and released only to be brutally beaten. However the supreme court ruled that Fatima had threatened suicide out of her fear and that she had been tied up in order to prevent her from doing so.
Souad Sbai of the Italian Association of Moroccan Women said that this decision was worthy of an Arab country which observed sharia law. and accused the judges of applying a double standard in the name of multiculturalism. According to Sbai a Catholic father in a similar case would have been harshly punished. Sbai says that there is excessive tolerance towards certain behaviors both from the right and left wing, who prefer political correctness over applying the Italian law.
According to the Italian Association of Moroccan Women at least nine Muslim women have been killed by their relatives in the past year.

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ORIGINAL: susie

Interesting that none of this has been reported in the UK.

I have checked both the BBC news website and Sky News and this does not appear anywhere. If it has been reported here then it has not been much of a story.


LOL! You think the BBC is an accurate source for news? That network seems to support terrorism if you ask me.

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/21/2007 10:24:42 PM   
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A few of their cars going up in flames or slashed tires should do the trick.
How do people come up with this stuff anyway?
Aren't those people supposed to be "Managers?"

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/22/2007 12:53:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can't say I've heard about this, it certainly isn't making news here. However, I never compromise my life out of repect for religious people because religion is a brain virus and the people that believe in religion have surrendered to irrationality, to compromise to them is to become irrational as they are. If they want me to compromise my behaviour they have to convince with with rational arguments as to why. Respecting their irrational beliefs is not an argument.

At least here in Holland which traditionally has been very tolerant, the Dutch have cracked and said enough is enough, you can't compromise with people who don't know how to compromise themselves.

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/22/2007 1:33:36 AM   
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Interesting that none of this has been reported in the UK.

I have checked both the BBC news website and Sky News and this does not appear anywhere. If it has been reported here then it has not been much of a story.


LOL! You think the BBC is an accurate source for news? That network seems to support terrorism if you ask me.


What a totally ridiculous statement to make

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/22/2007 3:21:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		SuzanneKneeling's attitude seem to me to be more than a little one sided and thats putting it mildly.
If only white conservatives would wake up and see the truth as MsSK knows it then all would be well.

What about the intolerance and downright savage not to say murderous bigotry that exists in India MsSK. What accounts for that then.
Are you aware of the riots and murders that have occured over whether a plot of land should have built on it a Hindu temple or a Moslem Mosque.?

Given that discrimination of one form or another is normal across all societies your attitude might be described as pissing in the wind.

As a Lady you cant do that either so you are doubly disadvantaged he he he he he he he

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/22/2007 4:01:27 AM   
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Interesting that none of this has been reported in the UK.


Susie this is the only link i have found for a press site here.
I cant say i have seen it in the papers at all either.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2258664.ece

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/22/2007 4:05:03 AM   
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Interesting that none of this has been reported in the UK.


Susie this is the only link i have found for a press site here.
I cant say i have seen it in the papers at all either.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2258664.ece


Yep. It all smacks of appeasement.

Now I don't believe in offending anyone for the dake of it but if they aren't happy living in a western country they dhould fuck off back to a muslim one.

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/22/2007 4:05:53 AM   
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I think the employees should tell the bureaurocrats to go and fuck themselves.
A few of their cars going up in flames or slashed tires should do the trick.
How do people come up with this stuff anyway?
Aren't those people supposed to be "Managers?"


Popeye sadly political correctness runs rampant in the UK. Maybe if the managers you mentioned were actually doing something more usefull, our Hospitals would not have such long waiting lists.

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/22/2007 4:11:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: susie
Interesting that none of this has been reported in the UK.
I have checked both the BBC news website and Sky News and this does not appear anywhere. If it has been reported here then it has not been much of a story.


LOL! You think the BBC is an accurate source for news? That network seems to support terrorism if you ask me.

What a totally ridiculous statement to make

Well Susie the BBC has just recently been censured and admitted that they broadcast one sided views of the Arab/Israeli conflict.
As I recall the bias was more towards downplaying or "explaining" Arab atrocities while emphasising Israeli actions.

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/22/2007 4:15:36 AM   
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Well Susie the BBC has just recently been censured and admitted that they broadcast one sided views of the Arab/Israeli conflict.
As I recall the bias was more towards downplaying or "explaining" Arab atrocities while emphasising Israeli actions.


Admitting this is just admitting the obvious. Every Arab death is described as a militant or there is an aside about women and children, as if to say, it was there fault for standing in the way of an Israeli gun.

I'm with cyberdude on this one, the BBC does support terrorism, Israeli terrorism.

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/22/2007 4:25:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		My point was that Susie seemed to consider the idea that the BBC may be biased is "ridiculous".
How do I know...she said so lol

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/22/2007 4:31:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Meatclever why were the BBC censured for Anti Israeli bias then ?

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RE: Scotland and Italy surrender to Islam - 8/22/2007 4:46:33 AM   
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Meatclever why were the BBC censured for Anti Israeli bias then ?



Look at the people in the establishment, they are hardly a mixed bunch.

If you analyse the BBC content, I don't know how anyone could not come to the conclusion that the BBC is way biased in favour of Israel. I have never heard the BBC describe any Israeli action as a terrorist action or that any Israeli is a militant.

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