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ORIGINAL: Prospective

I don't think it was your opinion she was making the point about in this post, I think the point she was trying to make is that the way your opinion was put accross was quite rude and maybe even insulting, while i can see why you may have such an opinion. Some diplomacy could of been used in order to express it.

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

I never said they were wrong or insulted them in any way. I asked who were they to make such judgements of me in a negative fashion? 

They were amongst those whose opinion -you- requested.
Yes.

That they risked your ire by expressing it should bring a note of thanks, I would think.
I thanked everyone for participating already.

That isn't to say you needed to agree with them. But to say you were annoyed leaves you open to suggestions that it wasn't an honest opinion you wanted.
Nope it says im human.  Whilst agreeing they have the right to their opinion it doesnt mean im open to being insulted so openly for my choices.

I also happen to agree with ThinkingKitten's statements. Looking at the OP and it is an understandable interpretation of your statements there.
Sorry you are going to have to explain what you mean here.

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

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ORIGINAL: Prospective

I don't think it was your opinion she was making the point about in this post, I think the point she was trying to make is that the way your opinion was put accross was quite rude and maybe even insulting, while i can see why you may have such an opinion. Some diplomacy could of been used in order to express it.

I was addressing Padraig's post, which is quite insulting and unfairly so, as I demonstrated.
I'm sorry is it ok to insult me but not you? Are you the only person allowed to speak out when feeling insulted?

My issue with Missturbation has to do with attacking those who provided an honest opinion, as she requested.
Show me where i attacked someone.

Not everyone is going to agree with prostitution. That should have been foreseen before the thread started.
Do i really have to say i knew this post would attract criticism again? Ive accepted most pretty graciously id say.

Expecting such responses and then claiming to be insulted by getting them is an insult to those who provided them.
RUBBISH.

Smells of a set-up to attack those who disagree with prostitution, as if -they- have no right to believe what they believe.
Now you are just putting words in my mouth, please refrain from doing that.

If she didn't want such comments, she could have said so (and then she'd have been in her rights to bawl them out for providing them).
I did want such comments but that doesnt mean i dont have the right to respond to them.

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

That isn't to say you needed to agree with them. But to say you were annoyed leaves you open to suggestions that it wasn't an honest opinion you wanted.

Nope it says im human.  Whilst agreeing they have the right to their opinion it doesnt mean im open to being insulted so openly for my choices.

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I also happen to agree with ThinkingKitten's statements. Looking at the OP and it is an understandable interpretation of your statements there.

Sorry you are going to have to explain what you mean here.

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

That isn't to say you needed to agree with them. But to say you were annoyed leaves you open to suggestions that it wasn't an honest opinion you wanted.

Nope it says im human.  Whilst agreeing they have the right to their opinion it doesnt mean im open to being insulted so openly for my choices.

Then in future I suppose when we see you asking for an honest opinion we'll have to translate that to mean "one which you will not find insulting".
Not at all, how many times do i have to say everyone is entitled to their opinion of me? However i am also entitled to voice my opinion about their statement.

In other words, those of us who disagree should keep our mouths shut because you might find such opinions offensive.
Should Padriag not speak for fear of offending you?

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I also happen to agree with ThinkingKitten's statements. Looking at the OP and it is an understandable interpretation of your statements there.

Sorry you are going to have to explain what you mean here.

Essentially, the OP says your master is going to hire you out, what do we think.
Yes and funnily enough i still dont really know what you think. You defend everyones right to speak freely and yet dont do so yourself.

So few details were provided that it was open to interpretation as to the concern your master has for your well-being.
Yes.

Could have been a pimp abusing someone's trust, for all we knew. If that was someone's interpretation, they are likely going to say derogatory things about prostitution.
Lol really. Just because it was possible i could be being pimped a sweeping derogatory statement of prostitution is the result?

Quite simply, this topic is going to hit a lot of buttons for a lot of people. If you weren't prepared to handle those disagreements gracefully, you might have considered asking those of us who disagree with this kink to not respond.
Nope as i have stated over and over i wanted all opinions.

But that last request you made in the OP specifically opened the door to every D/M who has an opinion on the kink, regardless of what those opinions might be.
Yes and its all good.

As I see no basis for expecting universal acceptance of the kink, or universal praise for your involvement in it, condemning those whose opinion you had every reason to expect seems unfair, given that you invited all to voice a (presumably) honest opinion.
I condemned noone but you continually condemn me. Please stop and think about what you are doing / saying before continuing this convo. I am actually defending a sect of people, namely prostitutes not myself in particular. I take prostitute as a compliment for many personal reasons.

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

They do a job just as most of us do in some form or other. We don't berate bankers, shop assistants etc.

Anyhow, I know this is all drifting a bit off course from where you originally wanted this thread to go, so I for one, will shut up now. ["Hallelujah", they all say... yeah yeah yeah ].

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 Its the general consensus (not all i know) of people who see prostitutes as some lowly form.

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ORIGINAL: Prospective

I don't think it was your opinion she was making the point about in this post, I think the point she was trying to make is that the way your opinion was put accross was quite rude and maybe even insulting, while i can see why you may have such an opinion. Some diplomacy could of been used in order to express it.

I was addressing Padraig's post, which is quite insulting and unfairly so, as I demonstrated.
I'm sorry is it ok to insult me but not you? Are you the only person allowed to speak out when feeling insulted?

If i've cought the wrong end of the stick here i appologies...

My issue with Missturbation has to do with attacking those who provided an honest opinion, as she requested.
Show me where i attacked someone.

If you felt insulted would you try to say "hang a sec"..??

Not everyone is going to agree with prostitution. That should have been foreseen before the thread started.
Do i really have to say i knew this post would attract criticism again? Ive accepted most pretty graciously id say.

Expecting such responses and then claiming to be insulted by getting them is an insult to those who provided them.
RUBBISH.

So if your expecting a insult you should just take it.. ???

Smells of a set-up to attack those who disagree with prostitution, as if -they- have no right to believe what they believe.
Now you are just putting words in my mouth, please refrain from doing that.

What.. ?? I think she got better things to do...
 

If she didn't want such comments, she could have said so (and then she'd have been in her rights to bawl them out for providing them).
I did want such comments but that doesnt mean i dont have the right to respond to them.

 
Does this mean that we have to put a full do's and don'ts list on OPosts..?? I would hope that people would know what is on the bondary of being opinion and insult..

Oh and pray do show me where i bawled anyone out???????????

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

Thank you for your support.
It's not really peoples opinions of me that is bothering me. Its the general consensus (not all i know) of people who see prostitutes as some lowly form. They do a job just as most of us do in some form or other. We don't berate bankers, shop assistants etc.

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 Its the general consensus (not all i know) of people who see prostitutes as some lowly form.

I disagree.
And you are entitled to your opinion.

Most people see prostitutes as exploited and abused individuals who would choose to escape that life if given a reasonable chance to do so.
Your opinion only, not fact.

Your OP created an appearance that can easily be construed in this way.
It did? Your opinion again.

Most of the responses I read made very clear that they would never embrace this kink.
And they are entitled to their opinion.

A lot of them expressed concern for your well-being.
And i thank them for that.

I don't recall reading -any- that said you shouldn't do it (caveat: I've not read a couple of them, but most I've read).
I never said they did.

I suspect you are dissappointed you did not get a more favourable response from more people.
Please do not assume anything about me. Heard the saying? It only makes an ASS out of U and ME.

Bear in mind it is easy to give you support, as none of us will live with the consequences if things go wrong for you.
What?

That so many didn't take the easy way out and instead expressed concern for you seems to have given you the belief that they see prostitutes as a "lowly form".
Oh my i would be quite insulted if you claimed i took the easy way! Thats a big judgement to make of others.

hmmm

I think I'm about done here.

You want praise and encouragement (obviously) and that is something I can't give.
Youre making an ass again.

I've never encouraged anyone to become a prostitute, let alone a bdsm slave being prostituted by her owner.
LMAO i dont need or want your approval.

I'm not about to start.

Good luck.

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I condemned noone but you continually condemn me. ... I am actually defending a sect of people, namely prostitutes not myself in particular. I take prostitute as a compliment for many personal reasons.

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I condemned noone but you continually condemn me. ... I am actually defending a sect of people, namely prostitutes not myself in particular. I take prostitute as a compliment for many personal reasons.

How do you defend a "sect of people" without implicitly condemning those who disagree with you?
I have condemned noone. Repeatedly i have stated they are entitled to their opinion. My opinion is different thats all.

I participate on a Religion & Spirituality board. There I all too frequently defend gays against christians.
I applaud you.

Understand: I condemn christian intolerance regarding gays. I defend a "sect of people".
Please don't treat me like a child.

You are doing no different here.
Yes

The thing is, you have every reason to expect this was bound to occur.
Yes

Throughout your recent responses you've made clear you believe there are a group of people who do not see prostitutes as you do.
Yes

And having invited them to step out and say something based on a vague description of your master prostituting you, you attack them for addressing what they perceived to be an exploitative and abusive situation, based on the vagueness of your OP and how it could have been interpreted.
Again show me where i attacked anyone? Your argument is based on something i havent done and you repeatedly evade proving i have done.

How many of them would have said what they said had you provided in the OP the more detailed information you've only recently provided?
My guess is 3.67

You've set them up, changed the premise, and now are attacking them for addressing the situation as you vaguely described it in the OP.
ASS out of U and ME again. Please stop telling me what my intentions with this thread were.

As if -all- forms of prostitution deserve our support.
No and i never said that

As if -no- prostitute was ever exploited and abused.
No and i never siad that



You've created a platform for your position, stocked it with targets and are currently shooting at them to make your argument that no one should oppose prostitution, and anyone who does is dehumanizing the prostitute.
Prove it, show me where i have shot people. Also where did i state noone should oppose prostitution?



I'm done.

Good luck.

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ORIGINAL: mercmjm

Every months to every week I am hearing on the news about these doms being arrested on prositution charges for pimpin our their slave

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Laying low, tired as shit...In a rather chatty mood. Whip what is your brand....That was nice what you wrote the other day....Boijen...You make great posts...and you are a cutey.

Sorry for the momentary hijack.

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But then, clearly, not everyone is adult enough for that.  Some people just like to stirr up shit for its own sake... and the complain when some of it hits them in the face.

Anyone else want some?

Sorry, Scat = Hard Limit.