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Young subs definitely have the edge. Their bodies are young and hard. They don't have extra skin or stretch marks from childbirth. They can wear bikinis and actually look good in them. From what I've seen, many Doms seek subs years younger than themselves. Doms in their 20's often go for the 18 yr olds while subs in their early to mid 30's attract the interest of Doms in their 40's, 50's and 60's. If an 18 year old sub showed interest in a Dom in his 50's or 60's, she would have a much better chance than an older sub trying to win over a younger Dom.

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Ill agree with defiant, young hard bodies and minds not jaded with baggage of failed relationships...sometimes a blanker slate is easier to work with  

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ORIGINAL: DeepWaters

Ill agree with defiant, young hard bodies and minds not jaded with baggage of failed relationships...sometimes a blanker slate is easier to work with

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Young subs definitely have the edge. Their bodies are young and hard. They don't have extra skin or stretch marks from childbirth. They can wear bikinis and actually look good in them. From what I've seen, many Doms seek subs years younger than themselves. Doms in their 20's often go for the 18 yr olds while subs in their early to mid 30's attract the interest of Doms in their 40's, 50's and 60's. If an 18 year old sub showed interest in a Dom in his 50's or 60's, she would have a much better chance than an older sub trying to win over a younger Dom.

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Ill agree with defiant, young hard bodies and minds not jaded with baggage of failed relationships...sometimes a blanker slate is easier to work with

The all famous "baggage" comment.  How many failed relationships have you been in? Of course men having baggage is perfectly acceptable. For example, picture a hardworking loyal husband with a wife and two kids. His wife decides to leave him for another man just for the thrill of something new. He loses his house so he has to pay both rent and $1000/ month in child support. Although this is just an example I'm using, in reality it happens all the time. Should that man have to spend the rest of his life alone because his now ex wife screwed him over? I'm sure you wouldn't view it as baggage if it happened to a man. Luckily for men, most women are compassionate and don't turn them down because they have been through a few failed relationships.

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Young subs definitely have the edge. Their bodies are young and hard. They don't have extra skin or stretch marks from childbirth. They can wear bikinis and actually look good in them. From what I've seen, many Doms seek subs years younger than themselves. Doms in their 20's often go for the 18 yr olds while subs in their early to mid 30's attract the interest of Doms in their 40's, 50's and 60's. If an 18 year old sub showed interest in a Dom in his 50's or 60's, she would have a much better chance than an older sub trying to win over a younger Dom.

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Ill agree with defiant, young hard bodies and minds not jaded with baggage of failed relationships...sometimes a blanker slate is easier to work with  

Older doms go for younger female subs with hard bodies because it makes them look good, it has little to nothing to do with their "maturity". Hell, I wouldn't mind being seen walking into a play party with some young hot stud myself... but I most likely wouldn't take him home with me. Beyond the physical I want someone I can talk too as well. I don't want a "blanker slate", I've raised my kids and I'm done with that part of my life. I want someone that's been there and done that, they understand moving slow in the morning while your body works out the kinks and sore joints, they can identify with a few gray hairs and how awesome it is to take a nap on the weekends.
 
Age has everything to do with maturity. Granted, I've known some fairly young people that damned mature... but you still got that "wild pony" attitude often enough to know they still had a long way to go. Maturity, IMNSHO, is life experiences and what we take away from those experiences. And I'm sorry, but only time lends to those things. At 21 you feel like you have experienced the world and there is nothing left it can teach you. At 50, after the world has beat on you for the last 30 years you understand how wrong you were. And I think that's it in a nut shell... When you are young you believe you have the world by the balls... it eventually proves you wrong, that's where maturity comes from. When you learn to stop fighting windmills and learn to chose your battles wisely and celebrate your victories quietly.
 
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As an older sub i have found that younger Doms prefer us to the younger ones.  Mainly it is because we know what we want, we value what we have, and appreciate a young hard body as well as an older man does. We are patient and willing to teach what they do not know and willing to learn what we do not know. We are steady, predictable and reliable. And, who says an older sub cannot look good walking into a play party????

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Aine... I love your attitude!!  Well said!!

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Self awareness and wisdom come from how involved in life people are.  How involved and invested they are in the things around them.  Awareness and wisdom come to those who are open, and receiving of everything around them, and don't close themselves off because of things not going how they wanted them to.

Those that learn from their experiences and take those things to heart and change what they can, and don't worry about that which they can't are the ones that have a hand up on others.

People who close themselves off are people who sit and whine about the shit that happens to them rather than doing something about it.  People who aren't open to the things around them, the ones that abhorr change, who are so stuck in their ways that they shut out everyone that could be good in their lives.

It doesn't matter how old a person is, because if they are the latter, they don't have shit on the ones that DO something in their lives.  I don't care what you do for work.  I don't care what schools you have gone to.  I care what is in your heart, the things you've learned, things that could be imparted to me as a tidbit of advice, a new perspective, something different to ponder.  I care what you think, the why of things, what makes your heart sing, and your soul soar.  These are the things that make us who we are, and show us to be eager and interested in the things around us and what we could learn that we might not know already. 

If someone has memorized a book, does it mean they understand it?

Understanding and the pursuit of, is what is important to me.

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Ill agree with defiant, young hard bodies and minds not jaded with baggage of failed relationships...sometimes a blanker slate is easier to work with

The all famous "baggage" comment.  How many failed relationships have you been in? Of course men having baggage is perfectly acceptable. For example, picture a hardworking loyal husband with a wife and two kids. His wife decides to leave him for another man just for the thrill of something new. He loses his house so he has to pay both rent and $1000/ month in child support. Although this is just an example I'm using, in reality it happens all the time. Should that man have to spend the rest of his life alone because his now ex wife screwed him over? I'm sure you wouldn't view it as baggage if it happened to a man. Luckily for men, most women are compassionate and don't turn them down because they have been through a few failed relationships.

That's not how I'd define "baggage".

For me, "baggage" means I'm expected to pay for what others have done.

For example, a woman makes a few bad choices regarding partners, grows a thicker skin and becomes far less trusting of others, and then I'm expected to pierce all that to win her heart.

Since I had nothing to do with her previous errors, or the pain she was caused, why do I deserve less than the same chance she gave the first man?

I'm in perfect agreement with those who believe she has good reason to treat the first man that way, after all, he was the one to hurt her.

But to make every man pay for the crime of the first man ... that's baggage.

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Actually, exercise can have little to do with it when it comes to pregnancy. I was very physically fit before I became pregnant. My problem was too much amniotic fluid, which had nothing to do with how much I ate or exercised. I didn't let my body go until after I learned that no matter how much I exercise, that skin will never go away. My only option is surgery, which will leave a long, ugly, noticible scar.