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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/29/2007 3:37:44 PM

wannabesub67

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No matter what roles we serve in life, we are all human. The rest of the world does not run on blind faith, parents check on kids, potential employers check references, credit companies check employment etc. As has been said earlier, if it was an ongoing relationship and she was doing this it would be a problem. But as they were still in the checking each other out stage, I do not see how it was so wrong.

He lied, yes. He attempted to turn it on her, that is a HUGE sign of an emotional abuser, believe me I have much personal experience with that! Tell her she is lucky to know now rather than after the point where she would have put herself in danger of what this man may have caused with his like of multiple women!

Honor in this life is huge as it is in any aspect of life. We must first honor ourselves, which she must now do and realize that she now has the opportunity to find a real, honorable, truthful Master which we all deserve!

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/29/2007 4:25:25 PM

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I have never claimed to be any better then anyone else here...

But you have questioned other people about whom you know nothing, of being phonies in real life. You've also dodged specific questions that were not personal attacks, but simply inconvenient to your point of view.
Again, if you want to post in a manner identical to many before you, be prepared to wear their labels.

Of the above I am guilty and to any I have offended I apologize. I am human and make human mistakes... unlike some here I do not clam to be or do I think I am perfect. I have however been attacked and called a victimizer and child molester by the same people and that is just uncalled for and wrong.

< Message edited by MstrSkyWoIf -- 8/29/2007 5:19:44 PM >

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/29/2007 6:45:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: wannabesub67

No matter what roles we serve in life, we are all human. The rest of the world does not run on blind faith, parents check on kids, potential employers check references, credit companies check employment etc. As has been said earlier, if it was an ongoing relationship and she was doing this it would be a problem. But as they were still in the checking each other out stage, I do not see how it was so wrong.

He lied, yes. He attempted to turn it on her, that is a HUGE sign of an emotional abuser, believe me I have much personal experience with that! Tell her she is lucky to know now rather than after the point where she would have put herself in danger of what this man may have caused with his like of multiple women!

Honor in this life is huge as it is in any aspect of life. We must first honor ourselves, which she must now do and realize that she now has the opportunity to find a real, honorable, truthful Master which we all deserve!

I would agree honor, integrity, dignity and truth are all very important... Thank you for your post

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/29/2007 8:48:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: MstrSkyWoIf
Does he have any honor? his he someone you would call a Master? and is what he did lieing or just being Dominent?

Lies is without honour. If a man lied to me about not talking to anyone else and he was secretly seeing or talking to someone else, then he is 100% without honour and a troll.

A Master or Dominat does NOT lie about such things, top-types are SUPPOSE to have honour just like all lifestylers, most people missed that memo, I understand, yet, I do expect that an [experienced] top-type has a bit more class than to be a troll or pull bs like that.

Its cut and dry for me. Not wiggle room.

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/29/2007 10:13:31 PM

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she ast him to tell her the truth cuz she had been hurt b4 and he dint, he lied. then he blamed her. sheesh it is sooooo commonplace it gives me the shivers. dang i wonder why we cant have a forum for venting, i mean why not call out these guys/gals, warn everyone who might wanta know? why can we only tell of "positive" experiences? i would love a place to go find out wut, so-and-so, or whose-it, is really up to.

Simply Michael, i was in love in high school, it was one of the sweetest, most wonderful relationships i ever had. no it dint last past one year, but that does not negate it in any way, in my books.

< Message edited by heartcream -- 8/29/2007 10:14:59 PM >

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/29/2007 10:36:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Those who enter the scene with the preconception that:

dominants = savior / submissives = vulnerable

are the people around whom the most drama swirls.

The great irony of this whole 4 page long thread (primarily the last page) is that it serves to validate this folk wisdom.

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/29/2007 10:39:28 PM

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So...

We meet again...

Its been awhile since the tea party...

There can be only one!

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/29/2007 10:48:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

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ORIGINAL: MstrSkyWoIf
Does he have any honor? his he someone you would call a Master? and is what he did fleeing or just being Dominant?

Lies is without honour. If a man lied to me about not talking to anyone else and he was secretly seeing or talking to someone else, then he is 100% without honour and a troll.

A Master or Dominant does NOT lie about such things, top-types are SUPPOSE to have honour just like all lifestylers, most people missed that memo, I understand, yet, I do expect that an [experienced] top-type has a bit more class than to be a troll or pull bs like that.

Its cut and dry for me. Not wiggle room.

Hi my friend aside from the fact my spelling and gram er stink.... I have a question for you since you are the only one here who really knows me... and not just by my posts am I a self serving child molesting victimizer as I have been accused of being. by a few here in the boards.

< Message edited by MstrSkyWoIf -- 8/29/2007 10:51:07 PM >

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/30/2007 4:37:54 AM

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Hi my friend aside from the fact my spelling and gram er stink.... I have a question for you since you are the only one here who really knows me... and not just by my posts am I a self serving child molesting victimizer as I have been accused of being. by a few here in the boards.

Geesh...you sure do got your panties in a twist over what Michael said to you. What the fuck, get over it already and stop acting like a flippin two year old.

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/30/2007 11:16:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: Irish Mist

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Hi my friend aside from the fact my spelling and gram er stink.... I have a question for you since you are the only one here who really knows me... and not just by my posts am I a self serving child molesting victimizer as I have been accused of being. by a few here in the boards.

Geesh...you sure do got your panties in a twist over what Michael said to you. What the fuck, get over it already and stop acting like a flippin two year old.

Mist, you misunderstand... I could care less what Michael has to say just felt it was a good opportunity to set the record straight from a point of view that counts. Unlike Michael who does not know me this poster dose.... therefor there opinion counts. Have a good day

< Message edited by MstrSkyWoIf -- 8/30/2007 11:25:12 AM >

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/30/2007 2:20:40 PM

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Mist, you misunderstand

On the contrary, I understand perfectly.

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could care less what Michael has to say

REALLY? Well hot fuck, I must have misinterperted your insistance that he was wrong to mean something totally different.

quote:

just felt it was a good opportunity to set the record straight from a point of view that counts

Why the fuck does it matter? The only PoV that counts is yours. NO one really cares what she has to say in your defense...for that matter, no one really cares about what Michael said or about your denials towards him.

The only thing that is extremely clear is that you obviously feel some deep need to appear untarnished. On a forum board. On an online forum board. On an online forum board with strangers whom you have never met, and most probably never will.

For someone who could care less what another says, you sure do place alot of value on how others view you.

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/30/2007 2:22:30 PM

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I have had a mental peccadillo that includes tarnishing you time to time, Mist.

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/30/2007 2:24:35 PM

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LMAO, I have been tarnished more than just a few times...

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/30/2007 2:37:41 PM

MstrSkyWoIf

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Irish Mist

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Mist, you misunderstand

On the contrary, I understand perfectly.

quote:

could care less what Michael has to say

REALLY? Well hot fuck, I must have misinterperted your insistence that he was wrong to mean something totally different.

quote:

just felt it was a good opportunity to set the record straight from a point of view that counts

Why the fuck does it matter? The only PoV that counts is yours. NO one really cares what she has to say in your defense...for that matter, no one really cares about what Michael said or about your denials towards him.

The only thing that is extremely clear is that you obviously feel some deep need to appear untarnished. On a forum board. On an online forum board. On an online forum board with strangers whom you have never met, and most probably never will.

For someone who could care less what another says, you sure do place a lot of value on how others view you.

you may be correct but then it is my business if I care to clarify it of not. Had he not gone so low as to call me a child molester I may have let it go but that I am sorry to say is a low blow even for him. But then I guess I should consider the source. Thank you for your thoughts.

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/30/2007 4:15:30 PM

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That song "Hit the road Jack" is going through my head............

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/30/2007 7:22:31 PM

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Odd topic, and what is your posting motive?

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ORIGINAL: MstrSkyWoIf

I know my answer to this question but would like a few opinions. Some one I care about very much was hurt today and this is what happened.

you a sub/slave have a conversation with a potential Master he tells you he wants to meet. You ask him are you talking to anyone else at this time and he says NO. you tell him you have been hurt before and are trying to make sure he is being honest. 1 hr later you find out he has contacted someone else you know on here and he is talking to her as a potential sub/slave. He then tries to make you feel like he did not lie at all and that you are the dishonest one because you would not have caught him if you had not been checking on him.

Here is my question.... Dose he have any honor? his he someone you would call a Master? and is what he did lieing or just being Dominent?

As soon as a few post I will give my opinion.

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/31/2007 12:18:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: RRafe

Odd topic, and what is your posting motive?

quote:

ORIGINAL: MstrSkyWoIf

I know my answer to this question but would like a few opinions. Some one I care about very much was hurt today and this is what happened.

you a sub/slave have a conversation with a potential Master he tells you he wants to meet. You ask him are you talking to anyone else at this time and he says NO. you tell him you have been hurt before and are trying to make sure he is being honest. 1 hr later you find out he has contacted someone else you know on here and he is talking to her as a potential sub/slave. He then tries to make you feel like he did not lie at all and that you are the dishonest one because you would not have caught him if you had not been checking on him.

Here is my question.... Dose he have any honor? his he someone you would call a Master? and is what he did fleeing or just being Dominant?

As soon as a few post I will give my opinion.

Looks as if his motive was to pose a question..... Sounds to me like he is a loser The Dom in question not the OP

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RE: A Masters Word and Honor - 8/31/2007 5:14:30 AM

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    IMO no one is Master to me but my own, so would I call another Master absolutely not.    Secondly, it is my belief that anyone who states that they are 100% honest all of the time, lies.   Some people it is white lies, others have no concept of the truth but bottom line is everyone does lie.   A person I was especially close to for many years, lied to me on more than one occasion.   After we had terminated our relationship, he had lied to me once again and was caught in the lie.   I asked him outright why he chose to lie to me, because at this point there was no reason to lie and he said, I lied to you this time and every other time, simply because I did not wish to hurt you.   At the time, I was angry about the lie, but I have ponder his response for many years.   His actions were at fault and I have never questioned his actions, it does not matter now, but the lie was told to spare my feelings, regarding his actions.   I do not believe he lied in a spiteful manner, it was simply to spare my feelings---sort of like, "Do I look fat in this dress?"
     I believe the nature of the lie must be pondered before taking away the honor of the liar.   In this case, we are only hearing one side of the story.   Maybe he was simply trying to cover his own rearend.   Maybe he is just a player.
    I look at it this way.   My own take on what could have happened since I am just simply going by a one sided thing.   I have no idea on how long these two people talked.    It could be a week, a month, a year---for me it's moot, because I take a extreemly long time in getting to know a person before a commitment is made.   Even after the commitment is made, I do not feel that my own partner should be restricted to conversation with just me, UNLESS the commitment has been pushed to a live in/married relationship.   Anyhow, my take is, unless a commitment had been made, he was probably getting to know submissive number one, he is not sure where the relationship is headed, he may not have wanted to say "I've only been speaking to you (for how long?), I am not sure if you are the one so yes I am still seeking."   So he said no he was not talking to anyone else, thus sparing the feelings because it is the net, who will find out.   He gets caught, he feels defensive because his intent was not to hurt her in the first place.   Defense is a normal reaction to a lie anyways.   Most people will get defensive and try to turn it around.   Was he right in his actions?   Who knows because I doubt anyone will ever know why he lied in the first place, he is not here to speak for himself.
      But let us just say, he had said to her, "Submissive one, I am not sure where this relationship is headed, until we make a final commitment, I will be scanning other profiles, I will be talking to other people, until I decide who is the best submissive for me."   Would she still have been hurt?   My guess is yes.   To me it does not appear that she has invested too long of a time with this person, it does not sound like she has had a face to face meeting, therefore, if she has not invested a long period of her time (for me that is a year) in this man, has not had a face to face, why would the lie even matter.   Pffttt move on.   If I were to allow myself to have hurt feelings about what anyone who I do not know said or did to me, (especially someone on the internet that I have never had the pleasure of meeting face to face) would make me question my own emotional stability.   So if this person allows herself to be hurt over some lie someone has told her that she really doesn't know, the truth probably would have been just as hurtful and this thread would have taken a different direction.    "They have been together two weeks, he collared her.  And he is still chatting with others, is he a Master?"
      In regards to this

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you are the dishonest one because you would not have caught him if you had not been checking on him.

if there had been ultimate trust, she would not have been checking. Trust goes two ways give and receive.

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