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luckydog1: This is sarcasm I hope....

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Yes!  

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Interviewing and training people is very difficult.  Finding people who have a sense of responsibility
and a strong work ethic is not an easy task.

Vendaval:
Are you discussing finding an employee or a sub?
thompson

What is your pay scale and benefit package

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Of course, the unemployment rate is determined by adding up the number of people on unemployment.

Unemployment benefits are not unending.  A person becomes disqualified for them and falls off the list, he or she is considered "employed."

Additionally, a person who goes from a six figure income to working at McDonalds for minimum wage is also considered employed.

Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

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Oh and SeeksOnlyOne, there is nowhere in Michigan that you can go where you are more than 5 miles from a body of water. It is the Great Lakes state.

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

The unemployment "rate" is a real number but few understands what it actually means.

Say we have a population of 100 adult people and only two were working, we could have 4.5 unemplyment because of how the number is calculated.

It isn't that ONLY 4.5 percent are unemployed out of the entire population, the number ONLY means that of the people who have lost their job (I can't recall the exact date/time) within a very short window, a few months at most and a few weeks perhaps, 4.5% haven't found a new job.  In other words, if those 4.5% don't find jobs and nobody else loses theirs, in a few months we will go to 0% unemployment.

Bush drastically changed how the unemployment number is calculated and shortened the time frame before you fall OUT of being unemployed and are no longer counted. 

There are lies, damn lies, and then statistics...

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ORIGINAL: lovetokissnylons

I think there's a relationship between LoveEverylastin's comment and Popeye's observation that the best $ rewards go to the people in Sales.  LoveEvery's strategy is to hire people as if the business is her own -- which it WAS.  Salespeople who do well generally love what they do.  Employees who work for themselves -- their own companies -- generally love what they do, also. 

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

employees- umm. well pay a man/woman a fair days wafe for a fair dasy work.   the peon worker has been downsized outsourced, depensioned, and viewed as disposable. hence: many take on the same "non-allegience" to the employer.  no so shocking really.

as for a slothfull culture- im sure we are more slobbish now as compared to past generations.

employers also want someone already trained- and has never had a personality conflict- and no gaps in employment.

my brother screwed out of his pension by 2 months.  [2 months!!!!]

at the same time- you have CEOS with golden parachuts. if you hurt yourself at work- you are baggage. a trouble maker.

then there are places that combine 2-3 jobs so as to not have to pay the expense of ample position. with the focus on "emergency" mode- afteer a while every day is an emergency. thus- good staff reaches the breaking point.

i seen an ad around 88 that said no job hoppers.  excuse me?   a bank can change their name every year and fake like they are upstanding pillars of community.

at one time a CEOs pay was 68x the rate of the lowest paid worker.

did i mention pensions?  any that exist are underfunded.   when i build houses they loved the guys to work or go to jail for child support. guys that had car payments and HAD to work. management would purposely make them angry- and the men would swing the hammers harder that day- improving production. [in theory]

it is nothing peronal- but the almighty corporation- is reaping what it has sowed.

i hereby award myself pahunks informal post of the day award. congrats to me,

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ORIGINAL: kisshou

Erin

in order for people to keep receiving unemployment checks they have to be out applying for jobs and show proof of that. So alot of people will apply and purposefully fail the interview in order to remain on unemployment.

From your remarks in this thread you do not seem to be aware of that.

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin
Three people didn't bother to show up for their interviews. One was 40 minutes late. I finally selected 3 candidates. Two of them were supposed to start this morning. It's my day off but I drove out there at 5 am to welcome them and introduce them to the staff. Both were no call no shows.

Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611
I read some statistics on careers and it said ... 80% said they would fire their boss if they had the oppertunity.

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ORIGINAL: petdave

While most of the salespeople i've met enjoy selling, i've met very few who could give a good goddamn about what they were selling, and even less about the health of the company they were selling for... Most would be more than happy to sell the company's dollar for fifty cents as long as they got a dime in commission. There are always more sales jobs out there, and it's easier to churn your existing contacts for new (or competing) products than it is to make new ones... at least that seems to be the case in telecom.

And my wife corrected me... she's been through ELEVEN receptionists (plus at least six temps and interns) in eight years! And this is white-collar, air-conditioned, $22k/yr with good benefits, answering the phones and logging mail... easy, easy work, decent pay for the area, they just can't keep anyone. Ridiculous.

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ORIGINAL: Slaveless1

I agree,
what companies have given out the employees is now coming back to bite them.

Why is it that if you do not have jsut exactly what they want
you are not even considered?

If they are looking for the perfect fit
maybe they should not have fired the last person.

Compaies are expecting employees to work twice as hard for less pay.
Their pay (employees) is not even keeping up with the inflation rate.
So as the company gets more the employees have to work for less
and still wonder how to pay the normal bills.

Maybe, just maybe
if the employers cared enough to take care of the employees
they have they would not have such a problem.

Now days its all about the company
and screw the worker every chance they can get.

My 2 cents worth no change required back!

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ORIGINAL: Griswold

Well, that would of course require them to have saved up enough money to have started a business, managed it successfully through several economic cycles, made enough mistakes to have learned from them well enough to have capitalized on those mistakes and grown by virtue, borrowed against their homes more than several times on the hopes that their vision would actually be welcomed in the business world and by the buying public...all while watching multiple employees rob them blind...and still be able to recover enough from that....to be in a position to....fire their boss.

....

And every employee, in companies where jobs abound and grow, should thank their lucky stars for a leader who is capable enough to accomplish the task of keeping a business out of bankruptcy (as statistics will show, fewer than 5% ever succeed) because the best ship on the planet...without a rudder...just ain't fucking going nowhere.

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ORIGINAL: Griswold




Well, that would of course require them to have saved up enough money to have started a business, managed it successfully through several economic cycles, made enough mistakes to have learned from them well enough to have capitalized on those mistakes and grown by virtue, borrowed against their homes more than several times on the hopes that their vision would actually be welcomed in the business world and by the buying public...all while watching multiple employees rob them blind...and still be able to recover enough from that....to be in a position to....fire their boss.

Sit in the big chair for 10 years and then take another look at that evil pontificating boss.

Chances are he stuck pillows under your...or others asses far longer than he should have, probably has a much kinder view towards those that treat him or her and the company with disdain that they babied from infancy, watched those same employees take home salaries for multiple years before he or she ever took a dime out....

Try the sleepless nights when you go home and worry how you'll make payroll because the big client (or several small ones) are late paying...or went bankrupt...and realize that your boss isn't worried about making payroll because it means he may lose employees to get his work done...but rather because he worries about the families who rely on his employees income (which he then struggles to ensure)...and the injustice of their having to suffer because of something beyond anyone's control....so he takes a second and third mortgage out to make sure they won't.

And maybe it all works out in a few years with good people and great attention. 

And maybe it doesn't.

And if it doesn't, and they see their ex boss working for a similar company a few years later...too often I've heard people say "Yeah well...if he'd have done more of....or if he'd have done less of....he'd still be in business", and usually the comments I hear from this group typically revolves around how "the only reason it stayed in business as long as it did was because of me...".

And if it succeeds wildly, in a decade or so the boss is driving a Lexus and living in a nice home...I honestly don't recall ever hearing anyone say "that guy gave his all for us...he deserves every bit of his success....if it weren't for him, we'd all be working at....".

It always amazes me how evil the boss is, how fortunate he is to have these Einsteins working for him, and the simple fact is....every successful boss (and company) is lucky he has the staff he has (and he knows it) because without them, success is simply impossible.

And every employee, in companies where jobs abound and grow, should thank their lucky stars for a leader who is capable enough to accomplish the task of keeping a business out of bankruptcy (as statistics will show, fewer than 5% ever succeed) because the best ship on the planet...without a rudder...just ain't fucking going nowhere.

And that's what your evil boss is doing every day.