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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 4:49:31 PM   
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so you are 21 and think you know more then us older guys.  LOL, you are the example of why I laugh when I see a ad from a 19 to 25 year old Dom wanting a slave and the ad says, I have lots of experience.  I also laugh when I see an ad from a sub or slave your age that has maybe one year experience in real life and two years on line (yes I checked your profile).  the two years on line do not count.  that was just playing at it.  I on the other hand have been in the life since 85.  yes thats right 85.  not just playing at it online but doing it in real life.  which is just before you were born.  Now maybe you can pass all that experience off as nothing but I have also owned my present slave since 92.  living the life not playing at it.  And my slave is alive, well, deeply in love with me, and loves being my slave.  So how do you pass all that experience of owning a real life slave for 15 years off as nothing???  now do not think that I discriminate against you just because you are young.  I have no problem with training a newie, weather they be older or younger.  Hell I will take you at 18 or 60.  The desire to submit is what I look at to start with.  And your profile even thou it says you are a submissive states that you have no desire to submit to anyone, not even this so call person you are "DATING".  So when you get a clue about what this life is about, then we can talk.  As an added note, yes you can learn the same things that I learned later in life at a young age.  however someone has to teach you them don't they??  and most time it is someone who has the experience already.

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 4:51:11 PM   
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OK, let's try it this way.  Who's not respecting your opinion?

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 4:53:41 PM   
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Age is certainly no guarantee of skill, nor is it preventative against absolute foolishness sometimes.

However, there is no getting around the basic mathematical reality that a greater number of years on this earth equals a greater number of opportunities for experience, learning, and hopefully attaining at least some wisdom.

Consequently, if anything, age raises the bar of expectation, if for no other reason that said greater number of opportunities means that, as one ages, one "ought to know better".


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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 4:54:03 PM   
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please, do show me where i said that i knew more than someone else....

quote me please.....

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 4:56:38 PM   
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I knew everything at 21.  Unfortunately, the older I get, the more I realize I really don't know.  

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 4:56:55 PM   
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great point from the other side of it all!

though when people assume that someone knows MORE because of their age, thats not seen negatively. it's not really an insult to them.

but it can certainly cause alot of issues.

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 4:59:25 PM   
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i am in no way bitching.


Trust me...you're bitching.

I know this from fifteen years of running my own business, four years in the Marines, six years of marriage, and two teenage stepsons.


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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 5:00:42 PM   
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Lmao....this reminds me of something Jewel's daughter (age 30) said a few days ago;
 
" You know Mom, when i turned 12 you suddenly got awful dumb, then when i turned 24 you suddenly got your IQ back. What is up with that?"

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 5:01:48 PM   
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He's right, you know.  You are bitching.  Maybe you feel you have a right to bitch, so bitch away. 

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 5:02:23 PM   
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lol fair enough.....

i'm not bitching now... am i? though apparently i've caused a domino effect.....

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 5:02:32 PM   
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Recurring debate number #64 (or was that 37). I dont know. Not too much of a new subject. All us youngsters think we are so awesome because we are young and all the oldsters think they are way better because they are old. Always guarenteed to end in a flame war.

My opinion is still the same...Life is an unending path of growth. My opinions have changed in the span of this last week by some margin, a much greater one when I look back a year. I've had conversations on an adult level with people twice my age. I've learned things from them and they have told me they have learned things from me. I dont think I have figured it all out, but can say I have figured out a few things and I will always argue my opinions until someone provides an argument that changes them. If that argument is "Well, your too young to understand and you'll understand when your older.", I have to say I am not too impressed with that argument (nor find it beneficial).

The one thing that always gets me is when people say "Well, look here, when you get to be my age, you'll understand. You'll have learned a lot of new things by then."

Well, thats great...but, in all honesty, what kind of response is that? What am I supposed to take from that or improve off of? Should I now proceed to live my life according to things I dont know about yet? If I am simply living my life based on the knowledge I have with only the faint recognization that I have things to learn, but have absolutely no idea what those things are yet, well....what am I supposed to do differently?

Should I get down on myself? Say "Aww gee...I am no good and cannot trully enjoy or live life because of these things that I dont know anything about, but will one day learn about?"?

If we are simply living life based on what we know now and learning new things as we live that life, then why should I be weighed down by the opinion that I am somehow "less" because I wasnt born a few years earlier so I can now know the things I dont know because I was a born a little later than someone else who has had the years to learn these things? (Say that three times fast for a cookie)

Seems kind of silly to me since the cure is time and I have no real control over that (Anyone seen a Dlorian?). Not to mention confusing. Since when someone says to me "You suck and need to be quiet, because you are simply living life with a limited amount of knowledge and havent had the time to learn all these awesome things that I have had the time to learn!", it usually makes me think...

"Well, what the hell am I supposed to do about that?"

(Edited to Add : And I think psynymph just learned not to open up with a rant here on Collarme.com)


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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 5:09:38 PM   
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quote:

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i'm not bitching now... am i?


You are.  But, meh.  It's sort of what the guy who invented message boards just knew that they were bound for, right?

In any case, meh.  Anyone who thinks the human mind is something that grows contineously with negliable loss probably isn't someone whose opinion you should think too deeply into.  In whatever case, you are certainly young, so have fun, psy.

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 5:11:18 PM   
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The one thing that always gets me is when people say "Well, look here, when you get to be my age, you'll understand. You'll have learned a lot of new things by then."


And yet, the statement is not without a certain truth. 

No one who's 21 knows the pride of watching the boy they've raised to manhood cross the stage to get their high school diploma. 

No one who's 21 has had to sit that same boy down and discuss what he's going to do if his girlfriend turns out to be pregnant.

No one who's 21 has had a business they've poured years of their life into go down the drain because of stupidity and mismanagement.

No one who's 21 has sustained their own business for 10 years.

There are certain experiences one just does not get except by living,  Life never takes shortcuts.


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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 5:13:53 PM   
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i am having fun.... as i said... this thread was taken a bit too seriously i think. but as it was pointed out to, i shouldnt have started out ranting.

i stand by my opinion but i suppose i merely got what i was asking for.......

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 5:15:02 PM   
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quote:

There are certain experiences one just does not get except by living,  Life never takes shortcuts.


I like that :)  No, it doesn't take shortcuts.

Cheers Celticlord2112

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 5:16:34 PM   
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quote:

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The one thing that always gets me is when people say "Well, look here, when you get to be my age, you'll understand. You'll have learned a lot of new things by then."


And yet, the statement is not without a certain truth. 

No one who's 21 knows the pride of watching the boy they've raised to manhood cross the stage to get their high school diploma. 

No one who's 21 has had to sit that same boy down and discuss what he's going to do if his girlfriend turns out to be pregnant.

No one who's 21 has had a business they've poured years of their life into go down the drain because of stupidity and mismanagement.

No one who's 21 has sustained their own business for 10 years.

There are certain experiences one just does not get except by living,  Life never takes shortcuts.



I realize that, my friend. I wont deny it. I'm sure I have a lot to learn and a lot of mistakes to make.

But...what am I, right now, supposed to do to change that?

Its not a problem like a wet sock that can removed or a broken window that can be fixed.

I listen and learn from people I respect (and that respect isnt given solely based on age. I have a lot of disrespect for people 20 years older than me who's opinion I completely disagree with and unfortanely, standing up for what I beleive in, right now, is pretty cool to me.), but I'm sorry if I cant buy into or accept the idea that I should be "dismissed" simply because I was born ten years later than someone else.

Edited to Add : So maybe if we can all agree that us "youngsters" have a lot to learn, but we cant be faulted because the only cure is time, then perhaps we can avoid another 6 page long flame war over the importance of age.

I personally can go without another one of these threads.

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 5:18:21 PM   
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Ahhh to be young...With those perky tits and mouths and other orifices that haven't yet been introduced to a plethora of peni...

So young, looking to "develop a non sexual relationship"...Shit I can't even find that in my relationship with the Lord....Hope springs eternal...Maybe there is just one sub who could value my mind...I'm not just fucking eye candy, yanno?...Y'all make me feel like a piece of meat...Fuckers.

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 5:20:35 PM   
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i agree with you. again i never claimed to know more than someone, i merely asked for people not to assume i know LESS simply because of my age and therefore see my opinions as less.

it is all very circumstantial.

i have, in fact, had the birds and the bees talk with my younger sister. i had to sit down with her, quite recently, and calm her fears about her recently discovering she might be bisexual. i basically took the place of my sisters' father. so basically, even at this tender age of 21 and not having children of my own, i do have very basic, limited experience with raising children.

but again, i do not claim to know more than anybody. i mean, there are things that i MAY know more about than someone else but i didn't make that assumption.

everyone in this thread has been on me about respect. but that is why i started it. i have only asked to be treated with the same unbiased respect and not judged for my age anymore than you would judge someone for their race.

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 5:20:50 PM   
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So young, looking to "develop a non sexual relationship"...


Hey, screw that! I want titties and ass. All the non sexual stuff can be left to you oldsters.

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RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card - 9/5/2007 5:21:37 PM   
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this thread was taken a bit too seriously i think


Sort of the condition of many of the individuals participating here.  Hell, this is pretty laid back, for me.


quote:

ORIGINAL: psynymph
i stand by my opinion but i suppose i merely got what i was asking for.......


It's a fairly good opinion.  Sort of ironic that older individuals sharply disagreeing with it are proving it.

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