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Jeffff -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/6/2007 6:40:31 AM)

To Me age is less a mater of experience and more a matter of cultural.....touchstones. Some who has similar memories, ,things on common. Other than sharing a few laughs, I would have every little in common with a 21 year old. Also, my daughter is 23....and for me, that would make is a little creepy...lol

Jeff




chellekitty -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/6/2007 6:46:26 AM)

Archer...the george carlin bit about being stupid, full of shit, and fucking nuts is now running through my head...google is a wonderful feature if you can't remember it off the top of your head in your old age *ducks as she runs away*

chelle who now must go learn more on world relgions in a room full of idiots she wants to put on caffeine IV drips...the prof was cracking jokes all through class on tuesday and they were sitting there with flat affects like someone had shoved a stick up their ass and propped them up in their seats...while i had to hold the giggles in so as not to distrub the atmosphere of learning (said with a fake pompus ass psuedo british accent) she finally rephrased one joke 3 times to get a minor chuckle out of the rest of the class...jeeeze...




GhitaAmati -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/6/2007 6:47:09 AM)

I was born the year my Sir graduated high school....by all reasonable mathmatics, he could technically have children my age....he doesnt, but the fact is still there that he could. There is quite a bit of an age difference between us, and yet we have quite a bit in common. I didnt date him because of his age...in truth if Id known his age I probably wouldnt have asked him to dinner that first night all those years ago......now Im glad I did because I know I found the perfect man for me...but it does make some things difficult, because the majority of his friends are his age or older, and all mine are closer to my own age, and so our friends dont often have very much in common.....




chellekitty -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/6/2007 6:48:43 AM)

or a little hot..but i am a dirty little girl...looking for a dirty old man err dom...*sucks on her lolly pop* btw i am 24 and older than your daughter and NOT your daughter, if that makes you feel any better




Celeste43 -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/6/2007 7:17:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

Aww...Celeste...your breaking my heart. [:(]

Do you consider me to be a child?


Actually Rabbit, I hadn't ever thought about your age before because you're one of the smartest, most self aware people on this site. I knew you were young but not that young.

For an online friendship not too young. For a real life relationship, afraid so.




xoxi -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/6/2007 7:40:50 AM)

Fast reply:

I realize there are plenty of things that people know because they are 40 and have lived through it.

I don't know what it's like to raise a child.  I don't know what it's like to be married, or to be divorced.

But there are quite a few things that I know that lots of people might not.  I knew how to survive the streets at age 17...something many 40 year olds wouldn't be able to do for a week, much less a year.  I learned at a very young age that there is nobody to depend on but yourself. Period. That's it.  Tell that to a 50 year old woman who flits from man to man and has never had to pay her own rent.  Don't think it's possible? Ask my mom's friend Debbie.

I would never ever presume to say I know more than a 50 year old.  And I'm quite aware that life experience is something you can only live through but that's mainly because I've lived through a bit of it myself.  I'm not going to say it totally equals out because I've met so many people who are just so much smarter, wiser, and more put together than I am, but I will say that no matter WHO you are there is at least one thing I know that you don't.

If you can't accept that, then I'm not the one with the problem.




LATEXBABY64 -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/6/2007 8:09:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: psynymph

*sighs* again i say.... do any of ya'll actually read what i write?

i mean LatexBaby goes back to this random idea that i was in some way complaining about somebody twice my age not wishing to have a relationship with me.... where did this idea come from???? so again let me say... i completely agree with basically what he said.... i have no desire in entertaining a relationship with someone twice my age either for the same reasons he and others have listed. did you get that? i AGREE.

And Bob, darling, hunny bunny..... you even directly quoted me but for some reason you still managed to put words in my mouth. Look at that handy dandy little quote box you used.... where in there does it say i think somebody older than me, has less knowledge than me?

i did say- "i am very aware that because of my limited time on earth that i have probably experienced much less than those that have been here twice as long, but i also know, for a fact, that i have experienced ALOT more than some people twice my age."

i can kinda of see how maybe that could be misconstrued.... but it really shouldn't be if you know how to read. i have met people older than me, by a couple years and by several, that have freely admitted to me that they believe i have more experience than them in something.  i mean hell... i knew a woman that at the age of 43 was just discovering the lifestyle and wanted ME to teach her what i knew. imagine that....

i ,in no way, doubt or lessen the knowledge of my seniors. i respect those that are older than me. i respect those that are younger than me. i give the basic respect due to ALL humans no matter their age, race, culture, or beliefs.

so again i say..... and let me put this in caps so it's easier for people to read and fully understand.... I ONLY DESIRE TO BE TREATED AS AN EQUAL  and not judged simply by my age. that is why i started this thread.

i mean... do ya'll read through the rest of the thread or just read certain posts? i at one point held up the internet equivalent of a white flag. Agree to disagree?

im tired of defending myself against people who arent actually reading what i am saying. stop attacking me and lighten up. good gods.... ever heard of sarcasm?



I think you miss the point. what i am saying is no one would want you to go through the pain and suffering I did or my Mistakes. but again that is not my right to say It all comes to the right passage in other words you learn from your own Mistakes .




MellowSir -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/6/2007 8:45:49 AM)

Any age is fine, so long as the communication is there. I like younger that lack experience, because then you have a fresh canvas to create with, on the other hand, around my age is nice because the sensual skills are SO much better lol. Now if I could just come across one who IS young AND skilled, that'd be a keeper :). Otherwise I just make the best of what I have....




Grlwithboy -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/6/2007 8:57:58 AM)

I really like being perched on the disputed border of these factions. 30 something is good.
Old enough to know what I don't know.
Young enough to not know what I do know.





agirl -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/6/2007 9:06:07 AM)

Hi psynymph,

Well, I think I have the gist of your OP. I happen to agree with the core of it. 

I've got 5 children ranging from 25 yrs, to 13 yrs, grandchildren and parents in their 70's. I respect the opinions of them all and they, mostly, respect mine.  I've lived longer than my children, seen more, know more about certain things, but they still have valid and worthwhile opinions and I like hearing them.

My 15 yr old son's opinion is worth more to me than my 75yr old fathers..because we share a similar outlook on life, regardless of age. My father may be older but doesn't see life in the same way that I do, nothing to do with experience, but outlook. I still respect his opinion but I pay less heed to it than I would my son's opinion, in many areas.

My children seek my advice and my opinion in the areas of life in where they know I have a little wisdom, but there are others where they know FAR better than I do. They may be young but they have had experiences that I've never had, and am unlikely to.

Respecting a person's opinion has nothing to do with age.

agirl


















Jeffff -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/6/2007 9:27:44 AM)

yeah...MUCH Better...:)

Jeff




Prinsexx -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/6/2007 10:00:37 AM)

There are many types of time......
inner time...inner child.we can remain stuck at any age in our psyches

external time...which is cruel on some and kind to thers....

the passage of time when we can surely feel more bliss in a fleeting second than in weeks of waiting?

past time...previous lives...which give us wisdom beyond what it sayd on oyr birth certificate....

future time....who knows how another will perceive us?

but anyway age has little to do with it and i am sticking to preference for 35 year olds.




DeaconStone -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/6/2007 10:22:18 AM)

Eight pages of circular debate is painful, yet I am oddly compelled to chime in here.  Age is of little factor in my opinion.  People within this discussion have cited the ability to spend time with friends of various ages as a difficulty in relationships that are age diversified, I disagree.  Intellect is what we should be discussing not age.  Intellectuals can share a great many things with each other devoid of age being a factor.  Young people are oft considered less-educated and experienced but this opinion while holding some truth (as most stereo-types do) is less factual as the information age progresses.  Older people are often considered wiser by their years, once again this is a stereotype, western society was far more sheltered fifty years ago.  Obviously I shall also state that people who practice sexual kinks are outside the norm of the bell curve. 

Quick background about me:  I am in my 30's which in the context of this debate seems to put me smack dab in the middle.  I've been highly educated and believe strongly in education (Not so much the current educational systems of the world, but in its practice).  I believe strong points have been made on either side of the 30's divideing line (I especially liked the comment that brought up the idea:  Length of time alive VS Length of adult life).  I have no children, and have no interest in ever having them.  10-20 years from now I will still not know what its like to raise a child, I don't feel that makes me less intelligent or less capable of teaching.  I do not own a house nor do I have a mortgage, that does not mean I don't understand oweing money (have several college loans outstanding), nor does that mean I don't comprehend responsibility be it fiscal or otherwise.  I play guitar and I've never taken a lesson in my life.  I can read music and I have an understanding of sound engineering though I was never collegately trained regarding these subjects (determination is a powerful thing).

With that being said here are my thoughts on this debate:
1.  Intelligent people can be any age, race, gender, etc...
2.  Unintelligent people can be any age, race, gender, etc...
3.  Recall is the most difficult task we demand of our memory.
4.  Experiences assist the memory in recalling information.
5.  The age of ones brain does in fact relate in the ability to learn, hypocampal and neuronal acitivity affect the mind.
6.  The information age has changed the ages in which people are exposed to information.
7.  Communication is a learned skill, not a genetic instinct.
8.  Goals, desires, and learning practices can accelerate one's knowledge in a subject regardless of age.
9.  Sarcasm is based phonetically on inflection.  Sarcasm as a result will never translate well into text.  No really  (<- that last bit was sarcastic)
10.  When statements are elogent and eloquent, they will always sound intelligent.

Therefore - My conclusions in common internet parlance
If some noob youngin' upstart, or some farty old F.A.Q. tells ya you don't know what the hell you're talkin about, calmly and intelligently consider your position and thoughts.  State your point intelligently using the full range of vocabulary available to you, and if they still FLAME ON then ignore them.  People will always play cards, be it the age card, or the education card, or the man/woman card.  You have control of only one thing, yourself (and for all the Dom/Domme's out there.... yes that also means, despite what you would desperately like to believe, that you only have control over one thing, yourself.....but thats for another discussion)

BTW: this is my first post to CM I think, though I've observed discussions before. ( I don't have iespell on this PC so please excuse spelling and grammer mistakes)




psynymph -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/7/2007 8:39:03 AM)

Thanks chellekitty!!!

Bob stop generalizing everything i say first off....

Everyone else, at least it's actually taken on a debate quality rather then a string of attacks aimed at me.

Dont hurt me! i'm too cute!! (oh by the way, THAT was sarcasm ;) )

Great first post DeaconStone.




LATEXBABY64 -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/7/2007 8:59:52 AM)

i do not agree our body changes as we get older so dose the mind. the bodies chemical make up changes which effect th ought and personality. in the long term we change but the basic ideas of who we do not. who we let in our lives do 




chellekitty -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/7/2007 11:11:31 AM)

you know...i sat down after that afore mentioned world religion class (skipping the unprepared for sculpture class) with my grandmother and talked with her one on one for a solid 4, maybe 5 hours, not including ciggarette breaks, food breaks, bathroom breaks and a trip to the soda can recycling place (i have a suburban, she told me to keep half the money, and my older brother with downs to keep the other half...incentive program kind of thing - she could easily recycle them free through the city) and with this woman who i have an age gap that i believe is larger than between me and anyone else on this site...please forgive me if there is someone older than 84 posting...age never came up in the 7 hour time period i was over there...in fact...the only kind of maybe time it was even referenced was when we were talking about the "Jena 6" thing and she was saying that when she was growing up, segregation was normal...and looking back it sucked that it was normal and that integration had to happen at all...but it did...and it was hard.....but that was the extent of a reference to maybe kind of an age difference...and we talked about a lot...politics, relationships, gossip, i don't remember each and every subject off the top of my head...but...if i can do that over a 7 hour time period...why can't i sit down for 30 minutes with some people and have dinner without hearing...you don't know shit, let me tell you how its done cause i am older and know better?  i could argue both sides of this all day, but i am just going to leave it at that and stop typing....now...lol




TallDominantMast -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/7/2007 12:06:29 PM)

Wisdom comes from experience, not age.  Age is ofttimes used by those who haven't done a whole lot of living as a substitute for experience.  Not merely in BDSM, but in life as well.  Ever wonder why unions and the government are so terribly fond of Seniority?  :: Nods ::  Yup, it's because they go to work to coast; to be average.  Accomplishments are the bane of the senority-based system.   Ever wonder why that young kid got promoted past you?  Yup, he's done a lot, and he's going places.  Perhaps if we emulated him, instead of griping about him, we'd find ourselves going places too.


Regards,

Tall




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/7/2007 12:15:13 PM)

snip[in the long term we change but the basic ideas of who we do not. who we let in our lives do ]
I agree 100% with this statement,guard closely those that enter your circle..bounty




MellowSir -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/7/2007 11:08:14 PM)

I want an 18yo woman :), with the learned skills of a 40yo that's been practicing them since she was eighteen, and the mind of an individual that's had a few years of college or is well-read and capable of carrying a conversation, the compassion of a mother who's raised children, fully understanding that priorities are priorities in regard to such.....the lack of narcissism that comes about AFTER she's learned she's not the center of the world (neither am I), and that looks aren't everything lol. Of course there are exceptions, unfortunately far between, but nonetheless......find common ground and build upon it.....and learn from each other, not just in a one-sided way........




xoxi -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/8/2007 1:04:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TallDominantMast

Wisdom comes from experience, not age.  Age is ofttimes used by those who haven't done a whole lot of living as a substitute for experience.  Not merely in BDSM, but in life as well.  Ever wonder why unions and the government are so terribly fond of Seniority?  :: Nods ::  Yup, it's because they go to work to coast; to be average.  Accomplishments are the bane of the senority-based system.   Ever wonder why that young kid got promoted past you?  Yup, he's done a lot, and he's going places.  Perhaps if we emulated him, instead of griping about him, we'd find ourselves going places too.


Regards,

Tall



Amen to that!




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