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susie -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/8/2007 1:49:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: xoxi

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I realize there are plenty of things that people know because they are 40 and have lived through it.

I don't know what it's like to raise a child.  I don't know what it's like to be married, or to be divorced.


But there are quite a few things that I know that lots of people might not.  I knew how to survive the streets at age 17...something many 40 year olds wouldn't be able to do for a week, much less a year.  I learned at a very young age that there is nobody to depend on but yourself. Period. That's it.  Tell that to a 50 year old woman who flits from man to man and has never had to pay her own rent.  Don't think it's possible? Ask my mom's friend Debbie.

I would never ever presume to say I know more than a 50 year old.  And I'm quite aware that life experience is something you can only live through but that's mainly because I've lived through a bit of it myself.  I'm not going to say it totally equals out because I've met so many people who are just so much smarter, wiser, and more put together than I am, but I will say that no matter WHO you are there is at least one thing I know that you don't.

If you can't accept that, then I'm not the one with the problem.


I have bolded the part of your statement that struck me. I am 47 but I too have never been married or divorced and have never had children so again it is not age that is the most important thing it is experience.

Last week I had a computer problem that had been niggling at me for a while. A friends son who is 8 came over to visit and heard me talking about the problem. He told me what he thought the problem was and promptly fixed it. According to some here I should not have taken his advice because of his age and so he is not capable of learning enough to have an opinion.

Everyone in this world has something to give, everyone sees things from a different angle. Perhaps when we get to the point in our lives that we can admit that we do not know everything and can open our minds to the opinions of others no matter what their age, that is the point that we become truly adult and better people.




SirThomas33705 -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/14/2007 4:19:32 AM)

My $.02 cents.  While this maybe off the topic intent.  What I'd like to know is:
Why is it in our community, we basically have eliminated almost all discimination, except one (1).  We have not eliminated the problem of age discrimination!  In the past I know that most Dom's 40 and over, with real years of experience, are routinely rejected by subs under 30, solely based on "AGE", ie; "You are too OLD, or, You are OLD enought to be my father". Why does this still exist?  I for one, have been on the receiving end of this, "SNAP JUDGEMENT"  Why won't the less than 30's subs, give the Dom's and chance to show that they maybe more compatible then they think?  Being in the South, I've come to ingnore the RACIAL discrimination,  But the AGE thing, always pops up.  I beleive that we should try and bridge this gap.  Both groups should activly try to bring this about.  "Younger sub's, giving Older Dom's a second look.  Older Dom's should give the Younger sub's a chance.  You never know when the mix will produce a viable relationship.

Age & Experence will always win out over Youth & Enthusasim (j/k!)





laurell3 -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/14/2007 4:39:53 AM)

Unfortunately there are some things you cannot change.  I generally do do not consider anyone that is more than ten years younger than me, although I will consider someone that is more than ten years older than me.  The reason is simple, they may be a great person, they may be very experienced, but as a sub I could not get mentally where I need to be with someone that young and as a Domme I would feel like a creep with someone that young.




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/14/2007 4:48:15 AM)

the same age discrimination works both ways.

i've seen dominant profiles looking for subs 18 to under 30 only which excludes those my age and above.  i wonder why.  is it because some of your fellow dominants are looking for that trophy/barbie/model thin submissive fantasy to show off on their arms while in public? what us older submissives - when are you older dominants going to give us chance like you're seeking from the younger ones?




ameha21 -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/14/2007 4:53:20 AM)

i agree with you completely. i was 19 when i started as a master and even after a couple of years of experience as a master, people would assume i was a fake or didnt know anything based solely on my age. even now some 'slaves' will be dismissive on me because of my age but it was much worse when i was 21, 22 or so. even back then, i was just as strict and had the same rules as i do now. i've learned a few things from experience but my rules and expectations haven't changed. 




came4U -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/14/2007 6:26:57 AM)

Young guys are ok for booty calls, but other than that, I would have nothing in common with a youngin.  I mean, if you have seen bell-bottoms in style for the THIRD time you nice n old like me LOL and we would have sh*t to talk about.




Maya2001 -> RE: The Ever Tiresome Age Card (9/14/2007 7:31:16 AM)

We all are guilty of pulling the age card for different reasons , some may dismiss your opinion because of your age, but you will use use the age card to dismiss a person as being to old to be a partner , another  may dismiss the 80 year old dom's opinion because they will say it no longer applies to todays standards or feel that they may have lost a few marbles along the way,

.  Heck as a mom of a grown son, I can't count the number of times my advice was dismissed because I was of a different generation so therefore I could not understand the situation, yet after 10 years have passed he suddenly realized I understood quite well that  the advice I gave him then was sound when he is looking at it now from a different maturity/age level.  

One  person may enter as a sub at 21 and have 3 years of experience at BDSM  another  may be a 6 month newbie at 50 , it does not make the 21 year old actually more experienced   than the 50 year old,  as the 50 year old may have other areas  of experiences to draw upon, for example  experience in relationships  or even  activities that they may have done in their vanilla life but did  but not labelled as kinks  so assuming because they have not lived the lifestyle  for as long that they are less experienced than the 21 year old   could be just as discriminatory , as they may have actually more experienced  in certain aspects though less in others




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