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RE: What's more important? - 9/6/2007 7:46:55 AM   
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i would do it.... My former Master could not have an erection… 


Him having ED doesn't mean he couldn't interact sexually with you. He's still got hands, mouth, and various insertable and other type toys.

We're in our 50's. There are nights I can't get there and nights he can't. Which is a hell of a lot different from not wanting to. Or wanting your partner to, for that matter.

Anyway, nope. My sexuality is tied to my submissiveness. Plus I don't do casual or poly. I need a D/s monogamous relationship to be happy.

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RE: What's more important? - 9/6/2007 8:12:58 AM   
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If you could have a relationship where there was pure D/s with no sexuality involved, but a lot of emotional attachment, would you take it?


Absolutely.

The source shouldn't spring from your loins; authentic submission is far deeper than that. Reliable submission is emotionally and psychologically based. Although one can not deny there is a sexual element in submission, submission based solely on the motivation of gratifying sexual drives is superficial.

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RE: What's more important? - 9/6/2007 8:39:36 AM   
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I'm finding these answers very interesting. It tells me a lot about each person's view of D/s. There are such widely divergent views on this site that seeing them expressed here is quite interesting. I'm enjoying reading everyone's opinion.

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RE: What's more important? - 9/6/2007 8:43:56 AM   
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If you could have a relationship where there was pure D/s with no sexuality involved, but a lot of emotional attachment, would you take it? Say you're a het female submissive would you be willing to submit to a gay male dominant even knowing there would be no sexual interaction at all? (This is truly hypothetical, not something I'm dealing with in my own life. Just was wondering about that kind of dynamic lately.)


Nope...it's sexual for me.

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RE: What's more important? - 9/6/2007 9:04:12 AM   
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No way. My sexuality is totally tied to the my submission.
 

 
In a M/s relationship i can never get enough of my Master so that would not work for me at all.


I agree with this. My sexually is not something that is compartmentalized. I can have sex for just good old enjoyment but my sexuality is connected to all of my parts and certainly something that gets intimate like a power exchange relationship and the sacrifice it takes my sexuality and sexual drives can not be put on the shelf for the convenience of the person I am serving.

It is easy and a everyday thing to help people and take care of friends, family and even have a vanilla relationship where my submissiveness in taking care of people and getting smiles from them can get taken care of to go to the level we do and talk about and with all that entails, my sexuality can not be extracted. A person either owns all of me and is able to accept the full responsibility or we are just not meant to be.


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RE: What's more important? - 9/6/2007 9:52:30 AM   
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I would agree with most everyone here.  Sex and submission are tied together for me.  I'd need them both, or I seriously doubt I could do it.

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RE: What's more important? - 9/6/2007 11:39:02 AM   
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I should probably answer my own question.

While I think being able to have a sexual relationship with a Dominant would be wonderful, I do not require sex to be submissive to someone. In some ways, for me, D/s without sexual tensions would be even more "pure" D/s. I'm not saying better than or the ultimate, just that submitting to someone where there is no sexual tension would be completely about their energy and mine relating together in the energy exchange that can happen. There would be nothing to cloud the exchange from what it is, Dominant energy drawing my submissive energy while my submissive energy feeds the Dominant energy.

Just my thoughts....


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RE: What's more important? - 9/6/2007 12:47:38 PM   
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If you could have a relationship where there was pure D/s with no sexuality involved, but a lot of emotional attachment, would you take it?


Sure, that tends to be my modus operandi more often than not, actually.

I'm odd maybe, but being a switch, I experience things a bit differently. I find it easier to separate sexuality from play when I am topping than when bottoming (though I can go either way in either case, depending on the circumstances).


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RE: What's more important? - 9/6/2007 1:42:16 PM   
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It wouldn't work for me either i get far too horny after a play session to not have sex.

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RE: What's more important? - 9/6/2007 2:00:23 PM   
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If i feel the mental connection yes i could and would have no problem submitting to a lesbian Mistress or a Str8 or Gay Male Master for there being no sexual connect at all just pure D'S :)

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RE: What's more important? - 9/6/2007 2:01:13 PM   
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I could have a D/s dynamic in which no sex was involved but I could not be involved in a D/s dynamic that was benign emotionally. Submitting does get me going, sexually speaking, but for the right chemistry I could do without the fucking.

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RE: What's more important? - 9/6/2007 2:24:56 PM   
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If you could have a relationship where there was pure D/s with no sexuality involved, but a lot of emotional attachment, would you take it? Say you're a het female submissive would you be willing to submit to a gay male dominant even knowing there would be no sexual interaction at all? (This is truly hypothetical, not something I'm dealing with in my own life. Just was wondering about that kind of dynamic lately.)

For myself, sex does not define my submission to a man. My desire to become his does.

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RE: What's more important? - 9/21/2007 9:38:17 AM   
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...could do both,

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RE: What's more important? - 9/21/2007 3:01:17 PM   
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The two are not mutually exclusive at least for me. so yes, I could.

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RE: What's more important? - 9/21/2007 3:31:14 PM   
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No, i couldn't do it. Being sexually submissive is a huge part of my relationship. Knowing that i am available to Him 24 hours a day for any sexual desires He has is a huge turn on for me. And i'm a very sexual person, even aside from that. i would be very unhappy in a situation without it.

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RE: What's more important? - 9/21/2007 3:48:03 PM   
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this really don't take two pages to figure out.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.
blowjobs are more important than oil changes. (Said second, for effect)

This encompasses the whole of the law.

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RE: What's more important? - 9/21/2007 5:15:58 PM   
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I thought about this and my gut answer would have been "Yes, I could do this." However, thinking more on it I couldn't. I use my passion as expression a lot of times and i can't think of a situaiton I would be happy in if there was no outlet to this expression. This lifestyle is not pure sex for me, a lot of it is rooted in desire, passion, sexual energy. When I kneel at a man's feet and I look up into his eyes and see that look that let's me know I'm his, it causes me to instantly get wet. Part of the thrill in service is being able to serve my Master completely. serving sexually is a very important part for me and if I could not do this for my Master I would not be serving him 100% it'd drive me ape shit.

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RE: What's more important? - 9/21/2007 8:48:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sublizzie

If you could have a relationship where there was pure D/s with no sexuality involved, but a lot of emotional attachment, would you take it?





Absolutely.

The source shouldn't spring from your loins; authentic submission is far deeper than that. Reliable submission is emotionally and psychologically based. Although one can not deny there is a sexual element in submission, submission based solely on the motivation of gratifying sexual drives is superficial.



My answer, hell no.  My answer to this post, with all due respect, yours is yours, mine is mine, neither should be deemed "superficial".

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RE: What's more important? - 9/21/2007 9:05:48 PM   
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I'm fairly service & pain oriented, so as long as there was BDSM, even if no sex (with an outlet... I'm poly anyway), I'd go for it. i think it's be interesting, and could probably last a while if we were open about it. interesting dynamic to think about, definately.. 

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RE: What's more important? - 9/21/2007 9:08:42 PM   
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I could not do it.  I need to serve my Master in ALL way taht mean sexually as well.  It is for us a must.  As Master told me the other day yes i am his submmisive but i am also his sex slave.

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