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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/12/2007 4:45:53 PM   
Neala


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This is a fun question. Cutting my hair as a punishment (just so this is clear, I consider punishment anything that would be brought upon by negative actions. In short not something I would enjoy) would be horrid but it would really get the point across.

I have often thought of a Master shaving my head. It would be one hell of a reminder as to my status. Something to ponder, I suppose.

I remember one time my ex wanted my hair cut and I balled and balled after I had gotten it cut. I loves me hair.

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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/12/2007 9:00:31 PM   
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I'll admit, I haven't read all of the posts but I do see quite a common thread so far in that female subs/slaves are attached to their hair! It makes sense, it's a big part of being female. However, I remember reading something once called "So you want to be a slave" or something and it was a woman writing about all these not-so-fun parts of what it means to be a slave. Gave me the impression that if your master decides to chop it all off or dye it green, you have no choice but to humbly accept his will (or leave the relationship of course.) So is this not true for most of you ladies? Hair cutting is a hard limit? Or is it merely the fact that it's framed as punshiment that you object to? What if your master just told you he'd find you more attractive with 10 inches less hair...would that change things? 

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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/12/2007 9:03:00 PM   
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the second one was when a slave felt that her hair had become a source of false pride...and with her Master's permission and the support of the leather community she had someone cut her hair off after a certain amount of money was raised to donate and her hair was given to locks of love...it was a moment of true pride from her Master and support (again) from the community...


Hehe, you were at Southplains Leatherfest 2007 weren't you? I actually cried watching that, it was really moving to me.


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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/12/2007 9:04:17 PM   
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Well, I hate to sound like a snob, but I have curly/wavy hair that's notoriously hard to cut. So .... it would be a punishment to be sent to SuperCuts or something, but a treat to be sent to a nice salon. *grins*

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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/12/2007 9:40:53 PM   
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i am 45 and when i was 19 i got a crew cut (due to a bad perm) and have had 1 foot cut off since then (which i  donated to "Locks of Love") right now my hair is about hip length and the thought of Sir cutting it off to punish me makes my blood run cold. since He is aware of how i feel about it, if He did it anyway, i would have to rethink O/our relationship

[edited to add] it would crush me if i lost my hair for any reason and to have it taken from me by Someone who knows how i feel and is supposed to care for my wellbeing to "teach me a lesson" would make it even worse.


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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/12/2007 9:45:14 PM   
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While visiting some kinky people down in Florida, we accidentally discovered that one of the doms kept his sub's head shaved.  We were told that it was his thing to keep them all that way.  She was allowed to wear a wig and no one outside of their circle may have known about it.  I believe it was a form of submission to him.   Would I do it for someone?  On a bad hair day, I think about that sub slapping on her favorite wig and dashing out the door.  In the end though, NO WAY. 
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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/12/2007 9:47:37 PM   
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Since it has taken me 10 years to grow my hair to the length it is now, and would take that long to re-grow it, I think hair cutting would be a terrible idea for punishing me. The punishment bascically would last for 10 years before I was back to "normal" with my hair. What would a sub or slave do that would warrant a punishment lasting for 10 years? I really think if such an awful infraction had occured, the best thing would be to end the relationship instead.

If it were another punishment type, for instance, would you sentence a slave to 10 years without orgasm as punishment? How about, 10 years without leaving the house? Looked at in that perspective, hair cutting as punishment is way out of line. People forget that long hair is not just an accessory, that you can have one day, get rid of the next, and then replace it when the whim strikes. It is a major investment of time and energy, and should not be subject to such whims.

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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/12/2007 9:51:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

Hehe, you were at Southplains Leatherfest 2007 weren't you? I actually cried watching that, it was really moving to me.



yep, and if i am remembering things correctly...do any singing lately? if you have no idea what i am talking about...whoops?


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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/12/2007 11:03:26 PM   
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Couldnt resist it. ha!

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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/13/2007 2:18:14 AM   
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Well, I don't want to knock someone's kink but I am with the group that say punishment isn't intended to be a turn on in My book. For Me, it's something they definitely won't enjoy and is given as a last resort for deliberate and serious disobedience.

While I have deliberately asymmetric hair Myself (it was "out there" when I first got it cut like that years ago simply because it suits Me best!) ... I am also with the group that say cutting hair is a rather longlasting "play" activity that might have unseen repercussions. Blithely saying "it will grow back" isn't always accurate ... some people's hair does not regrow, or does not regrow the same as it was before (new friend of Mine lost hers due to cancer treatment and now has curls when it was dead straight before!). Some men's hair simply won't regrow. Hair is deeply tied to many people's self image so I would be wary of messing with that without due consideration of the impact. But then, I am the sort of Domme that is looking to build lasting and trusting relationships with My subs, so for Me, the potential for negative impact on them is likely to rank more highly than the possible fun value for Me. And besides ... would I want to live with the fallout over it if it was a really bad decision?? I think not!

I am working WITH My new fem sub on a bit of a makeover project ... so I am suggesting hair colours and styles that might be more flattering than her present one, but only after she admitted to being dissatisfied with her current look. For Me, that's a whole different process, one of negotiation and decision-making.

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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/13/2007 4:50:48 AM   
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My post was a opinion not an insult. Why have a forum if you cant post opinions. If your asking a question be prepared for all types of opinions. This is not a place where everyone is going to hold your hand and say oh poor you.

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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/13/2007 7:11:23 AM   
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what other way are we supposed to take "you have some serious issues" than as an insult...perhaps this is merely a semantics argument, but where i come from, that means the person has mental health problems that need to be taken care of by a professional and they probably shouldn't be with the general population without some kind of medication....
chelle...who doesn't have issues...she has subscriptions...oh and its time to take my meds...


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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/13/2007 7:18:28 AM   
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I would be absolutely mortified if Sir cut my hair off punishment or not!!
Having said that Sir likes my long hair so i dont think he would cut it off.
On the other hand lol i have hair extensions so it would be real easy to just cut those off and then replace them. Actually i think that would then make it pretty pointless !!

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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/13/2007 7:18:32 AM   
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I'm pretty sure it would be a punishment for him. My ears are uneven, the top of my head is kinda denty and the last time I was bald (when I was a baby), I looked like Alfred Hitchcock...only less sexy.

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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/13/2007 7:23:15 AM   
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I've agreed to get a feminine-style haircut for a halloween costume party/scene.   LOL.  Our discussions have been really exciting. :-)

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Haircutting is hot. I like to cut hair. And when he lets it get 'out of control', i clipper the lot off! Its not punishment, it powerplay. Its fun. Similarly, i can perform this as a service, and enjoy that immensley too. Two entirely different ways of playing with the same material i guess.

As a punishment, its awfully hard. And that is what makes it hot. But a fantasy punishment. Like 'your a bad girl, im going to spank your bottom' sort of punishment. Cute. Flirty. I like it.

But im not really into punishment. It suck on all sides as far as i can see for myself. But that's just me.


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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/13/2007 7:39:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

I'll admit, I haven't read all of the posts but I do see quite a common thread so far in that female subs/slaves are attached to their hair! It makes sense, it's a big part of being female. However, I remember reading something once called "So you want to be a slave" or something and it was a woman writing about all these not-so-fun parts of what it means to be a slave. Gave me the impression that if your master decides to chop it all off or dye it green, you have no choice but to humbly accept his will (or leave the relationship of course.) So is this not true for most of you ladies? Hair cutting is a hard limit? Or is it merely the fact that it's framed as punshiment that you object to? What if your master just told you he'd find you more attractive with 10 inches less hair...would that change things?

I don't think I'm able to say that cutting my hair would be a hard limit, but I'm not sure. It's just not something i ever thought about before this thread.
Mine likes me to feel pretty, and he knows that my hair is tied into that (get it? "tied in"? haha... ok, sorry, got distracted!), so I don't think it would ever come up. IF he did decide that he liked it better short, I could probably be convinced pretty easily that a short hairdo would be attractive.
I'm not a big fan of punishment within our relationship in general, it's just not how I work, but.... A punishment that is "felt" for years, every time one looks in a mirror, seems a bit extreme.

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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/13/2007 7:52:37 AM   
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I stand by my opinion(insult). Take it and twist it how you want. Flaming someone for giving an opinion shows narrow mindedness. If you dont like it ignore it like everyone else did.  

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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/13/2007 7:58:54 AM   
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and insulting kinks is not allowed on this board, which was my point...now that we agree it was an insult, my point was proved, and i have nothing further to prove so i won't respond to you on this post anymore, good day...

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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/13/2007 8:54:19 AM   
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a woman's hair is her crowning glory. especially in some cultures.
i have a few friends that have gone through chemo and it really devasted them to lose their hair on top of losing their breast(s).
i've found them to look beautiful.a badge of their fight and a sign of their strenght
a bald woman has to be strong  to defy society's expectation of feminity.
i chose to keep my thigh lenght hair because its beautiful and its always been part of me. i also promised my father , who is deceased that i wouldnt cut it.
luckily for me Master loves my hair and has lots of fun playing with it. winding it in his hand as he fucks my mouth, tying my hands behind my back with it.
hair is the one thing a woman can change about herself quickly .
in my state of Michigan there's a law that a woman cant cut her hair without her husbands permission. i cant do anything to mine without Master's.

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RE: Haircutting punishment/submission - 9/13/2007 9:44:32 AM   
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I get turned on by girls who get their hair forcibly cut or shaved. I'm a woman and have shaved my head for years (it's finally to my ears right now though).

When I punish a girl, it's not to arouse her (unlike what Jim initially posted) because then it's not technically a punishment. If she enjoyed it, it wouldn't be a punishment and would just be "more play time." I view a real punishment where the sub gets in trouble for something they've done wrong. Punishments are severe. If I shaved or cut a girl's hair and she didn't want it, then it's a punishment. If she DOES want it, then it's just some fun.

However, I also like girls with very very very long hair and sometimes it hurts me to even IMAGINE the thought of cutting it all off. Punishment or not, I think it might even hurt ME more than it hurts them.

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