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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/17/2007 9:12:28 PM   
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Dommes like Aakasha really make me believe in cloning.

So about WhopperDomme , a little jingle us older folk can laff about from our childhood memories:
"Hold the pickle hold the lettuce, special orders dont upset us!!"

Obviously i am in a humorous mood tonight. Now i got the munchies for a flame broiled Whopper and onion rings. Plus a chocolate shake. Makes one wonder what the hell does that have to do with the subject "How to NOT find a sub". Nothing!!!

Burger king run!!! Who wants something????

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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/17/2007 9:14:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

There's so much area between "it's all about me" and "I don't want to compromise in what I want"

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This is the key:  For a sucessful femdom relationship, the woman must not take his submission *for granted*. It doesn't mean I compromise when I want an orgasm and he gets none. It means I never take for granted that he puts my pleasure above his.  He gets joy in knowing I don't have to compromise, I am completely fulfilled, and I treasure his devotion and never take advantage of his generosity.

Managing an arguably "one sided" relationship is not possible, in my opinion, unless both people are equally committed to each other AND respect the dynamic and how it works.


I agree.

An air of it's-all-about-me at that extreme of the spectrum might interest the masochist in me but it pushes me away with respect to a broader relationship. When I feel I am being taken for granted, it damages how I feel about the relationship. And I would more easily trust and not question a domme who is able to achieve her happiness and concerns while also being mindful of those mine. I am more likely to guard and watch out for my happiness and concerns if it seems that I am the only one who cares about those matters.

One way for a domme to not find a male slave for a broader relationship is to expect a broader relationship and interest to be taken in her broader personality, and yet present or emphasize the side of her that appeals to sex related matters. For me, an it's-all-about-me attitude appeals only to the sex related part of me.

Cheers,

Sea


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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/17/2007 9:23:25 PM   
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I am amused to see that both threads seek to help men ;-)


Both threads seem to

A) focus around submissives
and
B) men

A little helpful insight or guidance is never bad for anyone I think, and well... that's part of the nature of being a subby, no? As for men, well, we all know the example of a man that can't find the can of whip cream sitting front and center in the fridge... boys can use a little help here and there, too.


A little helpful insight or guidance is never bad for anyone, including dommes ;-)

To the extent it is thought that the challenges in Fm can be fixed by subs alone, I disagree.

I see room for a discussion for what insights might help some women based on personal observations and a discussion I am currently seeing elsewhere about what dommes do to attract or express attraction for a sub, especially a relationship oriented sub. I will save those thoughts for another time.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/17/2007 10:13:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

quote:

ORIGINAL: iammachine

quote:

I am amused to see that both threads seek to help men ;-)


Both threads seem to

A) focus around submissives
and
B) men

A little helpful insight or guidance is never bad for anyone I think, and well... that's part of the nature of being a subby, no? As for men, well, we all know the example of a man that can't find the can of whip cream sitting front and center in the fridge... boys can use a little help here and there, too.


A little helpful insight or guidance is never bad for anyone, including dommes ;-)

To the extent it is thought that the challenges in Fm can be fixed by subs alone, I disagree.

<snip>


I agree. It takes two to tango and whatnot.


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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/18/2007 1:10:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pixelslave

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How to NOT find a male slave; (and also how to sort wheat from chaff) -
Discuss your forthcoming SRS, at length, in your profile text.

Any who then mail you are either definite weirdoes to stay away from, or just might be sufficiently interested that nothing would put them off.

E



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thanks! I do have a slave at the moment as it happens - and apart from his age, he's ideal. Its a shame he's so much older than me, but still it means that he knows what he wants (big advantage).

E

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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/18/2007 11:21:16 AM   
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One way for a domme to not find a male slave for a broader relationship is to expect a broader relationship and interest to be taken in her broader personality, and yet present or emphasize the side of her that appeals to sex related matters.



Good point Sea and I totally agree!
 
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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/18/2007 11:31:23 AM   
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Lady Ellen,
I'm absolutely confident that one of these days, your wit and intelligence is going to capture the heart of one of the latter!
 
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thanks! I do have a slave at the moment as it happens - and apart from his age, he's ideal. Its a shame he's so much older than me, but still it means that he knows what he wants (big advantage).

E


Congrats Lady Ellen!
News travels slow from one side of the pond to the other.  I've very happy for you.
 
It's very true about knowing more about one's self and what a person wants (or doesn't want) as they age.  I feel much more comfortable with myself and am very much at peace with being submissive to a woman compared to how I felt 10 or 20 years ago.
 
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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/18/2007 6:05:48 PM   
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There is nothing wrong with being an "all about me" domme.  A delightful way to enforce that authority is by drawing out and maximizing a submissive's naughty wants and deep dark desires.

As for trouble finding a male slave...not much.  They seem to be pouring out of the walls.

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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/18/2007 8:33:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KruelMistressK
A delightful way to enforce that authority is by drawing out and maximizing a submissive's naughty wants and deep dark desires.


It seems there are different ideas about what it's-all-about-me means for I would not describe the dynamic above as one that is one sided.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/18/2007 9:48:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

One way for a domme to not find a male slave for a broader relationship is to expect a broader relationship and interest to be taken in her broader personality, and yet present or emphasize the side of her that appeals to sex related matters. For me, an it's-all-about-me attitude appeals only to the sex related part of me.


Maybe its because it is late and my brain is tired - but I am having difficulty comprehending what you are trying to convey - and I want to understand.  Are you saying that a Domme seeking a broader relationship should just be her whole self and not lead or only present or over emphasize her sexual side? Or are you saying that in your opinion that the broader personality should be more equal and only the sexual side be the "all about me"? Or am I grasping any of what you are conveying? Thanks for clarification...

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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/19/2007 4:14:21 AM   
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Lol stockingluvr54, I am glad you realised it mentioned in jest :) lol

The feedback of all the emails I get, male subs are more me me me, want want need need lol 


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ORIGINAL: stockingluvr54

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ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

It is all about Me

lol


On a more serious note and just jmho.... I don't think it's all about you or all about me but should be all about US?

But what the hell do I know...



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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/19/2007 4:16:41 AM   
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Out of interest :) How did your photograph get approved
Bravo!


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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/19/2007 4:27:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: stockingluvr54

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ORIGINAL: ocilla

Woot! Sexy, sweet and down to earth stockingluvr54 is back with us!  So glad to see ya - you've been missed.
If only you were in Georgia and I was not a BBW - I'd scoop you right up. ;-) Dang...Somebody should.


Ahhhh! Mistress Ocilla! Thankyou thankyou! I'm truly flattered for the kind words! I'm gonna throw one back at ya ok? Guys... I've bs'ed with this creative Lady (heavy emphasis on Lady!) on the other side and over the phone. I strongly believe Ocillas' head and heart are in a good place...No shit! Thanks again J..... (I'll shoot ya a note probably tomarrow?...much to tell)

Now back to the OP... If and when I do perve the profiles I quickly skip over the "All about Me" profiles. Also skip some of the real "scary" ones that are above and beyond anything I can comprehend like fireplay and knife play,etc. Also skip the "service only" profiles but that's just me........




Heh there Mr Hunk! (wink)
 
Dommes may have knife play and fireplay on their profile as 'curious about' and will never plan to do those things with you if it does not work in the relationship.
 
So, don't skip me! lol
 
Miss Irish

ps: I would really enjoy a call from you. I have a super-crazy-busy week here at the house but I will make time to chat with you.

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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/19/2007 4:36:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: blackpearl81

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ORIGINAL: MysticFireTopaz

How to NOT find a male slave?
 
Send an e-mail to a complete stranger calling him a sniveling worm and ordering him to get on his knees immediately.  Then again, some might like that.
 
Also, send an introductory e-mail to a complete stranger demanding to know his annual income and net worth.
 
Lady Topaz


I had that happen to me once.

Someone had emailed me "wanting" more pics. I replied with this simple, yet door slamming reply:

"How's it feel to want"

Suffice it to say, I landed on her block list.

I'm crushed about that.

No, really.....I am.



Blackpearl,
 
Most dommes will want to see more pics, just to verify your 'realness'. Many scammers have only 1 pic, so a great way to check is to ask for a few more pics. It is done all the time on the other side.
 
Maybe you did that to me?  'What's it like to want?'
 
Although I never call someone a worm in a first email, only use that term for players or jerks, or in play. Were you lumping those together as in 'send me more pics, you worm!' Or as separate people and different emails?
 
Miss Irish

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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/19/2007 4:49:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

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Here's another idea on how to NOT find a male slave:.
 
Send a response to the profile of a male slave you don't even know.  Stay on Collarme and keep monitoring  your "Sent Mail" folder to find out what time he reads the message.  Give him exactly five minutes to reply to you after reading your message.  If he doesn't respond in that time, send him reprimand for not getting back to you in a timely manner. 
 
Lady Topaz


Even better.  Don't read his profile, particularly the part at the very top where it says his collarme email doesn't work, gives his offsite email and YM address and says to give him an offsite address if you want to get his response.

This is sop for a scammer. They want to get you to chat immediately on yahoo or aol. They also want your private email addy right away. So, if any domme backs off if you ask this, it might be because she knows that this is one of the biggest and most common signs of a scammer.
 
Miss Irish

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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/19/2007 4:59:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

How to NOT find a male slave; (and also how to sort wheat from chaff) -
Discuss your forthcoming SRS, at length, in your profile text.

Any who then mail you are either definite weirdoes to stay away from, or just might be sufficiently interested that nothing would put them off.

E




Which defintion of SRS did you mean?
 
*scratches head.....

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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/19/2007 6:07:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KruelMistressK

There is nothing wrong with being an "all about me" domme.  A delightful way to enforce that authority is by drawing out and maximizing a submissive's naughty wants and deep dark desires.

As for trouble finding a male slave...not much.  They seem to be pouring out of the walls.

Well, maybe for a pro domme! lol
Finding real life slaves who aren't *Poofers, do-me subs or one-handed typists looking for a McDomme? Glad to hear it. Please send a few extras to CA!
 
Irish

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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/19/2007 8:51:43 AM   
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Lol stockingluvr54, I am glad you realised it mentioned in jest :) lol

The feedback of all the emails I get, male subs are more me me me, want want need need lol 






Mistress Rouge....

I'm also a need need need,want want,me me me kinda guy but I do believe in "Ladies First!" As long as I know I'll get mine somewhere down the road I wouldn't mind working a little harder and waiting some......

Have a good day!

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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/19/2007 8:57:59 AM   
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Hello again YesMistressIrish!

Hunk...????? lmao....

I'll send ya a note shortly....and thanks!!!!!

Good day....S54

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RE: How to NOT find a male slave - 9/19/2007 11:36:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ocilla

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

One way for a domme to not find a male slave for a broader relationship is to expect a broader relationship and interest to be taken in her broader personality, and yet present or emphasize the side of her that appeals to sex related matters. For me, an it's-all-about-me attitude appeals only to the sex related part of me.


Maybe its because it is late and my brain is tired - but I am having difficulty comprehending what you are trying to convey - and I want to understand.  Are you saying that a Domme seeking a broader relationship should just be her whole self and not lead or only present or over emphasize her sexual side? Or are you saying that in your opinion that the broader personality should be more equal and only the sexual side be the "all about me"? Or am I grasping any of what you are conveying? Thanks for clarification...


I can't speak for Sea, but I can for me.  When a woman is looking for a broader relationship, it seems to me that the focus of the written description in her profile should perhaps be more about her vanilla interests, her personality, and what she generally seeks from the submissive she desires to meet.  Similarly, vanilla interests, personalities and overall compatibility as people should seem to be primary focus of the initial "getting to know you" period instead of sexual interests until a large part of the other has been established. 
 
CM provides a checklist for interests and levels of experience when it comes to play and other interests.  That can be used to establish if there's a basis for compatibility in regard to all kinds of interests.  In a broader relationship, getting to know each other as people and establishing compatiblity outside the bedroom, playroom,  dungeon, etc. is more important to the long term possibility of success in my opinion than what might happen in terms of kink.  Using CM's list, one can also establish if there's compatibility in kink as well, which in my experience can be a changing and dynamic kind of thing as people and relationships grow.
 
In a Domme's written profile, I feel that less emphasis (perhaps in the form of less space and it's location in her profile?) should be placed on the sexual aspects, while still stating clearly what is most important to her in terms of her interests in play and more importantly, the desired nature of the D/s dynamic she seeks; the specific details of which can be discussed more thoroughly once basic compatibility for a broader relationship has been established in terms of personalities and shared interests.  In real life, one doesn't give someone they've just met a list of all their kinks, nor expect that the other would be open to exploring them with them initially until a more secure relationship has been established.
 
I suspect that what Sea was also alluding to is that it's often a "given" that many Dommes are likely to have more of an "it's all about me" attitude during sexual play, which apparently appeals to him.  Other Dommes may want their needs to come first, but also have a desire to see that the sexual needs of their subs are also met; the latter being particularly true in broader relationships, perhaps as Akasha has described in hers. 
 
I hope you find this explanation from my viewpoint on this subject helpful.
 
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