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ORIGINAL: UR2Badored

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

Donna...nice pic !! 

I was thinking the same thing........very pretty.

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

I think the point erin is making is valid.  prop has stated several times that she cannot function in the world, her Daddy abuses her regularly, as an example, he rapes her anally, using her blood as lube to the point where she is unable to function and she has regular unprotected sex with others, not knowing if they are going to kill her or not (and yes that has been stated in one of her posts), all at his bidding and prop has said repeatedly that he has taken steps to ensure that she is not able to leave him.  And, yes, in prop's own words, she was and may still be mentally incompetent.  I, for one, don't see consent there.  That may just be me. 

I don't see erin as making a judgment either.  She is simply using prop's past posts to make a point, that's all. 

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ORIGINAL: susie

I personally don't see her relationship with her "Master" as something that should be openly encouraged as being within what we normally call the "lifestyle" and I don't view it as a healthy relationship at all.

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Okay, so maybe I'm a french fry short of a Happy Meal, but to be consumed, bite by bite, and ingested .. to become a part of the inner workings of Michael, to have 'me' run through his veins, nourishing his body.. just thinking about it gets me hot. So there you go, death, amputation, cannabalism all rolled into one, hot, incredible last scene. What a way to go! Much better than being hit by a bus.

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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ORIGINAL: UR2Badored
How do you define "no limits"?
(I would appreciate opinions and views from anyone on this matter)

As being unable/unwilling to establish personal boundaries.

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

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ORIGINAL: susie

I personally don't see her relationship with her "Master" as something that should be openly encouraged as being within what we normally call the "lifestyle" and I don't view it as a healthy relationship at all.

And where does that end?

Which extreme edge play gets attacked next?

And which one after that?

And the next one after that?

Props says this way works for her.

Are you trying to save her from, or condemn her for the choices she lives by?

Have you noticed she doesn't want to be saved?

So have you chosen to condemn her for it instead?

Or is this a round-about way of condemning CollarChat for not banning her posts outright?

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ORIGINAL: susie

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

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ORIGINAL: susie

I personally don't see her relationship with her "Master" as something that should be openly encouraged as being within what we normally call the "lifestyle" and I don't view it as a healthy relationship at all.

And where does that end?

Which extreme edge play gets attacked next?

And which one after that?

And the next one after that?

Props says this way works for her.

Are you trying to save her from, or condemn her for the choices she lives by?

Have you noticed she doesn't want to be saved?

So have you chosen to condemn her for it instead?

Or is this a round-about way of condemning CollarChat for not banning her posts outright?

I notice that you missed the sentence that came after the one that you quoted. It said "But that is my opinion.". It is an opinion I am perfectly entitled to have and express. 

Do not be so arrogant as to make assumptions as to my motives for posting. I did not once suggest that her posts should be banned, nor did I suggest that I have any wish to save her. 

You constanly post your opinion on these fora, at least have the courtesy to allow others to express theirs.

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

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ORIGINAL: susie

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

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ORIGINAL: susie

I personally don't see her relationship with her "Master" as something that should be openly encouraged as being within what we normally call the "lifestyle" and I don't view it as a healthy relationship at all.

And where does that end?

Which extreme edge play gets attacked next?

And which one after that?

And the next one after that?

Props says this way works for her.

Are you trying to save her from, or condemn her for the choices she lives by?

Have you noticed she doesn't want to be saved?

So have you chosen to condemn her for it instead?

Or is this a round-about way of condemning CollarChat for not banning her posts outright?

I notice that you missed the sentence that came after the one that you quoted. It said "But that is my opinion.". It is an opinion I am perfectly entitled to have and express. 

Do not be so arrogant as to make assumptions as to my motives for posting. I did not once suggest that her posts should be banned, nor did I suggest that I have any wish to save her. 

You constanly post your opinion on these fora, at least have the courtesy to allow others to express theirs.

I count eight questions regarding your opinion.

I see no answers.

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ORIGINAL: susie

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

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ORIGINAL: susie

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

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ORIGINAL: susie

I personally don't see her relationship with her "Master" as something that should be openly encouraged as being within what we normally call the "lifestyle" and I don't view it as a healthy relationship at all.

And where does that end?

Which extreme edge play gets attacked next?

And which one after that?

And the next one after that?

Props says this way works for her.

Are you trying to save her from, or condemn her for the choices she lives by?

Have you noticed she doesn't want to be saved?

So have you chosen to condemn her for it instead?

Or is this a round-about way of condemning CollarChat for not banning her posts outright?

I notice that you missed the sentence that came after the one that you quoted. It said "But that is my opinion.". It is an opinion I am perfectly entitled to have and express. 

Do not be so arrogant as to make assumptions as to my motives for posting. I did not once suggest that her posts should be banned, nor did I suggest that I have any wish to save her. 

You constanly post your opinion on these fora, at least have the courtesy to allow others to express theirs.

I count eight questions regarding your opinion.

I see no answers.

I have no intention of answering the questions you had. They are assumptions you made about my posting. YOUR assumptions.  As I said before I am entitled to my opinion and to state that opinion here just as you have done on many postings. Do not be so arrogant as to assume you are the only person here entitled to an opinion.

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ORIGINAL: UR2Badored
How do you define "no limits"?
(I would appreciate opinions and views from anyone on this matter)

As being unable/unwilling to establish personal boundaries.

I'm going to use the 'death is a limit' argument here since that's so popular. First of all, I think it's rather silly to list something as a 'limit' that 'is' going to happen. How can death, truly, be a limit when we are going to die? I mean, most people say a hard limit is NEVER, EVER gonna happen. It shouldn't be pushed.. it shouldn't even be put into a realm where pushing it is an option.  Death is, absolutely, postively, going to happen for ever single one of the 6+ billion people on the planet. And people that tell me that I'm mental because I have no limits? At least I'm a realist!

Maybe I'll go out tomorrow and get hit by a bus. Splat. Dead. That would suck. Maybe I'll get some fatal disease and waste away with tubes in my body in a hospital. End result, I'm dead. That'd suck, too. Maybe I'll die in my sleep.. that would suck too, because I'd like to be there to watch. Birth begins us and death ends us. What we make of the in-between is what it's all about.

I have zero desire to limit my experiences because someone else thinks they may be too extreme. If it's out there, I'd like to try it and I'd like to try it with the man whom I adore more than any other being in this world. Himself knows this about me. He knows that his wish is my command, so he's careful to keep me fenced so I don't go wandering along an edge and fall off. See, to me, that sounds kinda cool. Go to the edge and jump.. to fly before you fall, even for those few moments.

I have this in my profile - "What limits cannot be surpassed with courage, tenacity and desire." What is too extreme? Who determines what is or is not acceptable for 'me' to do if not.. well, me? The answer to that question is Himself. None other. Not those who claim to speak for the billions of people on the planet when most of us know the mearest handful of souls. What's not done? What can anyone think of that someone, somewhere isn't doing? Every 30 seconds, 2 per minute, every hour of every die someone is out there committing suicide. Death is not a limit for them. People cut off their limbs for the thrill of it, for insurance claims etc. People are people and people are capable of doing anything that people can imagine doing and yet, suddenly, put on some leather chaps and 'everybody' has limits? That's just.. damn, I don't even know.. rather preposterous if you ask me.. and, you did ask. :)

Okay, so maybe I'm a french fry short of a Happy Meal, but to be consumed, bite by bite, and ingested .. to become a part of the inner workings of Michael, to have 'me' run through his veins, nourishing his body.. just thinking about it gets me hot. So there you go, death, amputation, cannabalism all rolled into one, hot, incredible last scene. What a way to go! Much better than being hit by a bus.

Celeste

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

I think the point erin is making is valid.  prop has stated several times that she cannot function in the world, her Daddy abuses her regularly, as an example, he rapes her anally, using her blood as lube to the point where she is unable to function and she has regular unprotected sex with others, not knowing if they are going to kill her or not (and yes that has been stated in one of her posts), all at his bidding and prop has said repeatedly that he has taken steps to ensure that she is not able to leave him.  And, yes, in prop's own words, she was and may still be mentally incompetent.  I, for one, don't see consent there.  That may just be me. 

I don't see erin as making a judgment either.  She is simply using prop's past posts to make a point, that's all. 

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

~FR~
I too think its just astounding what people try to protect under the guise of WIITWD and or "you can't criticize my "kink"

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble
Okay, so maybe I'm a french fry short of a Happy Meal, but to be consumed, bite by bite, and ingested .. to become a part of the inner workings of Michael, to have 'me' run through his veins, nourishing his body.. just thinking about it gets me hot. So there you go, death, amputation, cannabalism all rolled into one, hot, incredible last scene. What a way to go! Much better than being hit by a bus.

Celeste

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

~FR~
I too think its just astounding what people try to protect under the guise of WIITWD and or "you can't criticize my "kink"

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

~FR~
I too think its just astounding what people try to protect under the guise of WIITWD and or "you can't criticize my "kink"

For example?

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

~FR~
I too think its just astounding what people try to protect under the guise of WIITWD and or "you can't criticize my "kink"

greetings breathasone,

but the fact is, there are a lot of people out there who just do not conform to the acceptable "standards." he has required me to do things and probably will require me to do things in the future that violate a lot of popular sensibilities, and often violate ssc or rack (we do not hold to those kinds of things). not everyone who is in a d/s or m/s relationship automatically fits the bill of the politically correct "bdsm community," so to speak. many people who do not have a relationship within those guidelines are open about the fact that they do not. for me, at least, it is not a matter of hiding behind any expectance of acceptance. there are many things that we do now that i would never have possibly thought i could bring myself to do before i entered into this relationship. i do not even expect other people to comprehend/understand/support it. i fully expect that it would offend people or make them think my relationship is crazy and/or abusive. i do not like being treated that way or having all of my opinions viewed in that light, but i also do not by any means wishfully think that everyone will accept my relationship just because it is kinky.

respectfully,
annabelle.