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Rubytuesday2 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/26/2007 11:02:50 PM)

Yep, PeTA euthes over 90% of the animals they 'rescue'.  Meanwhile, the animal shelter just up the road from them somehow manages to adopt out about 90% of the animals they rescue.

It is certainly time for the American public to wake up to the truth.  Groups like PeTA, such as hSUS, DDAL, IDA, ADL and a whole bunch of others don't really care about animals at all, they just don't want people using them for their benefit.  And that also includes 'Fluffy' on your couch. They show people pictures of cute little puppies and kitties to raise money, and then use that money to end animal ownership, quite the little scam.

naiaonline.org  check out the AR quotes!
activistcash.com
animalscam.com 



Owner59 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/27/2007 12:02:51 AM)

http://www.peta.org/Living/AT-Fall2005/nokill.asp

quote from a SPCA director
“There’s not a ‘no-kill’ shelter in this country that does not turn animals away every single day,” says Adams. “It’s a sham and a scam as far as we’re concerned.”



For example, after the SPCA in Norfolk, Virginia, implemented a “no-kill” policy, the SPCA just 20 minutes away in Virginia Beach became inundated with animals turned away by the Norfolk SPCA. Virginia Beach SPCA Director Sharon Adams reports that in July 2005, her shelter, which accepts all animals and does not charge a drop-off fee, took in 71 animals from Norfolk in one month alone. “There’s not a ‘no-kill’ shelter in this country that does not turn animals away every single day,” says Adams. “It’s a sham and a scam as far as we’re concerned.”

“Open-admission” shelters are the true heroes, for they don’t slam the door in the faces of unwanted animals, and they refuse to warehouse them for years on end. They have also taken over the heartbreaking task of euthanasia from pounds that are little more than shacks where animals are shot or gassed.



Rubytuesday2 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/27/2007 5:32:08 AM)

'No-kill' shelters, as warm and fuzzy as that wording sounds, turn away the unadoptable dogs.  The dogs that stay around too long are often sent to kill shelters, so technically they are no kill, they don't physically do it themselves, but even so they do send dogs to be PTS.  This is a generalization, but it is common.



Owner59 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/27/2007 8:04:08 AM)

PETA, and  kink?

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news?id=37261



Owner59 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/27/2007 8:23:47 AM)

I dig Trent

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=trent_fur&Player=wm

Remember,if you buy fur or ANY fur products from China,
it`s most likely from dogs or cats.Any brush,bristle,or item made with hair.



Owner59 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/27/2007 10:19:59 AM)

For those that would like to torture a PETA member

http://www.elephantlist.com/humor/funny-videos/rat-monster-prank/index.html



Rubytuesday2 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/27/2007 1:18:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy
She captures cats and dogs that are stray, has them neutered or spayed by the ASPCA, takes them back to where she caught them, and sets them loose.
Sinergy


Well if they were truly strays, why would she take them back?  Why not take them to a local shelter?

Does she support the goals of the AR groups?  Does she believe that people should not have pets? 

The problem I have with this, is that they are not always strays and are removed from peoples yards (not talking of your friend here, I have no idea).  If someone stole my show dogs and took them to a butcher Vet at a shelter to have them S/N, I would be pretty God Damn pissed off! I want my dogs intact, and not only for showing/breeding, but because I am involved in dog sports and S/N dogs get injured more easily. 



Rubytuesday2 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/27/2007 1:29:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
The dog racing industry?


And what of it?  I run my Hounds, not commercially but for fun, although I have known people that do it commercially. 

There are a few bad apples in the sport, just as there always are in anything.  But many do care about their dogs and take very good care of them.  The idea that they are "forced' to run is preposterous, or that they are starved and do not receive proper care is just not true, at least not for most the owners.  Most tracks have in-house adoption services and almost all the Hounds are either adopted out or retired to breeding farms when they are done running. 

Many of the GH rescue groups have AR leanings and believe the same things the AR groups do.  I would be very skeptical of anything they might say.  They sure were quick to sell their own breed down the river with that coursing mess in California last year.  Showed their true colors, that is for sure.



Owner59 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/27/2007 6:10:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rubytuesday2

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59
The dog racing industry?


And what of it?  I run my Hounds, not commercially but for fun, although I have known people that do it commercially. 

There are a few bad apples in the sport, just as there always are in anything.  But many do care about their dogs and take very good care of them.  The idea that they are "forced' to run is preposterous, or that they are starved and do not receive proper care is just not true, at least not for most the owners.  Most tracks have in-house adoption services and almost all the Hounds are either adopted out or retired to breeding farms when they are done running. 

Many of the GH rescue groups have AR leanings and believe the same things the AR groups do.  I would be very skeptical of anything they might say.  They sure were quick to sell their own breed down the river with that coursing mess in California last year.  Showed their true colors, that is for sure.

Good God,you must be fucking kidding.<ok,calm down and tell the people politely>

This is why.

http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/running_for_their_lives_the_realities_of_greyhound_racing/greyhound_racing_facts.html

http://www.atourhands.com/dograce.html

http://animalliberationfront.com/Practical/Entertainment/DogRacing.htm



Rubytuesday2 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/27/2007 8:32:30 PM)

Good God, don't quote AR websites for facts of any kind.  LOL!  It is a well known fact that they doctor videos/pictures (remember some years ago when IAMS pissed them off?), spread half-truths and outright lies in their no more pets agenda.  ESPECIALLY hSUS and ALF!  Been dealing with these groups for years, I am well aware of their tactics.

I have been running hounds for years, have known people in the commercial industry.  It is not as the lunatics say it is.  Yes, there are a few bad apples, just like in agility or obedience, but that is not the norm.

I absolutely love my dogs and horse.  That is why the ARs are not my friends. Too bad your average American is so clueless about the truth. 



Owner59 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/27/2007 8:42:22 PM)

Talk about clueless ....



Rubytuesday2 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/27/2007 8:57:04 PM)

Ok, just for kicks I clicked on the hSUS link.  They "kill" and "terrorize" Jacks!  That would be called hunting, STILL legal at least for now. What they WON'T tell you is those Jacks are considered a pest in many places and farmers routinely poison them.  What is worse, being taken quickly and naturally by a predator, or a long, slow, painful death by poison?

Another thing they say is they live in crates or fenced enclosures.  Ah...yeah...I have a fenced yard....I also crate mine for safety when I am not home, they ARE den animals after all.  But it is not as if racing Hounds can be kept in crates and not exercised, in order to have a good running Hound they have to be in rock hard physical shape, not to mention fed a high quality diet.

Almost all ex-racers are adopted out, often by the tracks they race at.  I know what I know, but you can choose to believe the AR propaganda if you like.



Rubytuesday2 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/27/2007 9:00:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Talk about clueless ....


Yep, those shades aren't rose colored, are they?

Sadly, their propaganda still seems to still be working....



Owner59 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/27/2007 9:14:22 PM)

The Humane Sociaty? They`re nut-jobs? C`mon now.



http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/running_for_their_lives_the_realities_of_greyhound_racing/greyhound_racing_facts.html
 



Rubytuesday2 -> RE: PETA - The REAL killers (9/27/2007 10:43:01 PM)

hSUS and PeTA members freely flow back and forth, they are the same people, hSUS just hides it much better.  hSUS is NOT a government agency and does NOT have a single shelter, what they DO have is attorneys and lobbyists, not to mention quite a few politicians bought and paid for.  All that money they scam people out of goes to push anti-animal/anti-hunting laws.  They are currently under investigation for misuse of funds in Louisiana for the 30 million they raised after Katrina.  They spent a miniscule portion on the actual dogs.  They also PTS dogs for no reason after Katrina, whole semi loads of dogs just disappeared while in there care, they kept the good donated supplies for themselves, and spent most of their time running around in their blue shirts trying to get that hSUS logo on the news as much as possible.  They also refused to let breed rescues take their breeds dogs into their care until the owners could be relocated.  I had friends there, REAL animal lovers, who worked day and night trying to help the animals while they watched hSUS trot around and jockey for position in front of the cameras.

Go to activistcash.com and read about the money trail, while your there check out some of the other AR groups like ALF (which, BTW, is closely tied together with ELF, which is a known terrorist org)



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