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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

You get back to me when that happens. Right now, the Neocon Party Whores seem to have invented the word Citizen somewhere in the 5th Amendment...

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

So they should be friendly to someone who has stated that the US is an enemy and should be destroyed along with Israel?

Some would suggest since the US Government is now depriving Persons of the 5th Amendment Rights, and has tortured people for 1300 days and more before pretending to THEN give them due process, that the US Government has surrendered it's Moral Right to rule.

That means, being in violation of the Constitution and Amendments, the Declaration of Independence should be invoked, the Federal Government dissolved, and the States should decide how best to re-federalize should it be desirable.

And of course, the Human Rights Violations of the Israeli Government is enough to call for it's dissolution.

So, what's your problem?

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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

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I disagree that they are teaching anti-americanism, as so many college students would tell you it is anti-bushism. never misunderestimate a head strong twenty somthing :)

I say let the man speak.....Don't underestimate him - He might come up with a way that deescalates the tensions in the region.

In the face of it all, this guy is very courageous and has the fortitude to stand tall before his people and stick to his guns. Conversely, Bush and his cronies have done nothing but repeatedly lie to the American people.  

I will go out of my way to locate a venue that lets me hear his speech at Columbia.

Those who are afraid of another man's speech, are not worthy to speak themselves.




- R

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So they should be friendly to someone who has stated that the US is an enemy and should be destroyed along with Israel?

This is one of the reason I do not like the UN being in the US. Put it in Geneva or somewhere else that is considered neutral ground.

Orion

Well ,we met w/ China,while they were helping to kill our soldiers in Korea,and then in Veitnam.

Whet the big deal here?


And it was us(rather idiot bush),that called them an enemy.

Get it straight.

I think bush needs a boggy man,to scare the cowards into supporting him.

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Nice avoidance of a direct question. Ever thought of being a politician? I agree that our government is majorily screwed up, and drastic measures may be needed, but why sidestep my question?

Orion

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

So they should be friendly to someone who has stated that the US is an enemy and should be destroyed along with Israel?

Some would suggest since the US Government is now depriving Persons of the 5th Amendment Rights, and has tortured people for 1300 days and more before pretending to THEN give them due process, that the US Government has surrendered it's Moral Right to rule.

That means, being in violation of the Constitution and Amendments, the Declaration of Independence should be invoked, the Federal Government dissolved, and the States should decide how best to re-federalize should it be desirable.

And of course, the Human Rights Violations of the Israeli Government is enough to call for it's dissolution.

So, what's your problem?

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Or an idiot to support an enemy of our country.

Orion

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It is not so much a matter of letting him speak or being afraid of what he has to say. It is a matter of looking at the man's history, the words he uses when speaking to his people, the words he uses when speaking to allies, the words he uses when speaking at the UN, and the words he uses in situations such as this.

It is also a matter of looking at the man's history, and the things he has done in the past. He has to do with looking at the present and see the dots that are connected between many situations in the Middle East. It has to do with connecting the dots to N Korea.

Bury your head in the sand if you wish, but the man has stated numerous times that the "West" is an enemy and that The US and Israel are at the top of that list. He is not an Maerican citizen, despises the values of our country, and wishes to see shia law spread throughout the globe.

Orion

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Columbia University is going to be welcoming the Iranian President early next week and the university has given every excuse from free speech to "respecting opposing views to our country's policies."

But keep in mind this is the same university that stormed the stage when the "Minutemen" went there to speak. This university refuses to allow military recruiters on campus and also refuses to allow an ROTC. Walk around that campus with a military uniform and you will probably incite a riot.

I think universities like Columbia are a complete radical left-wing joke. Columbia university is a perfect example of what is wrong with the academia in this nation. They preach anti-Americanism. They give a platform to a dictator that suppresses democracy, freedom of speech, religion, and of the press and they call this "respecting opposing viewpoints." But they refuse to allow the other viewpoint to be made. Do you think they would allow the Israeli prime minister to speak and not storm the stage? Would they allow Bush to speak? Hell no.

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I mean, Before Bush, we didn't ever hold people without a lawyer and trial for 1300 days, did we? And that's not even bringing up the torture and murder.

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It is not so much a matter of letting him speak or being afraid of what he has to say. It is a matter of looking at the man's history, the words he uses when speaking to his people, the words he uses when speaking to allies, the words he uses when speaking at the UN, and the words he uses in situations such as this.

It is also a matter of looking at the man's history, and the things he has done in the past. He has to do with looking at the present and see the dots that are connected between many situations in the Middle East. It has to do with connecting the dots to N Korea.

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—On executions of homosexuals in Iran: In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country. We don't have that like in your country. ... In Iran we do not have this phenomenon. I don't know who's told you that we have this.  Source: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RS115O0&show_article=1 

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—On nuclear research: Some big powers create a monopoly over science and prevent other nations in achieving scientific development as well. This, too, is one of the surprises of our time. Some big powers do not want to see the progress of other societies and nations. They turn to thousands of reasons, make allegations, place economic sanctions to prevent other nations from developing and advancing, all resulting from their distance from human values and the teachings of the divine prophets. Regretfully, they have not been trained to serve mankind.

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Referring to comments by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the leader of the Islamic revolution, Admadinejad said, "As the imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map."

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"This guy goes around the world at every place he can and tells people that the holocaust did not occur"

Lie. As proven by his remarks today at Columbia.

Ahmadinejad denied he had questioned the existence of the Holocaust.

"Granted this happened, what does it have to do with the Palestinian people?" he said.