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If you would like a fuller view you can go right to his site and view the transcript there: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_092607/content/01125113.guest.html
I also checked it against other sources, it is unedited.
Ahh ,no ya don`t.
It`s edited.The previous caller"Mike",and his comments,(which the 2nd "Mike" is "retorting to",are gone.Not there,edited out of the "Rush" version.
Why is that?
They`re(Rush`s website) leaving that out, on purpose,and for good reason.
The 1st caller"Mike" was called a phony(in so many words)and insulted by Rush.It`s there,listen to the ugliness of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmWPSjNXsXI
Notice how Rush refused to believe, that the 1st caller can possibly be a republican.Notice how Rush doesn`t respond to anything the caller says, but rather dismisses him.
In response to the caller saying that he was ex-military,and "IS" a republican,Rush says "Yeah,and I ,btw,used to walk on the moon".In Rush`s head,you can`t possibly be a republican (or pro military),and also against the Iraq war.Notice his closed mindedness, to that concept.
Then the 2nd caller(who`s name is also Mike )calls,and says he wants to respond to the previous caller.He used the word "retort",more than once."I want to make a retort to Mike in Chicago",he says.
You can`t listen to the second "Mike`s" comments(or Rush`s),with out including the previous "Mike",because Mike II,keeps referring to Mike I,as does Rush,also.Leaving out Mike I,is dishonest.
So it`s obvious that both Rush and the 2nd caller, are talking about the 1st caller(the one that Rush just put down as fake,Mike I).The 2nd Mike says he wants to "retort"(2nd time) to the previous caller,and to the question of pulling out of Iraq.
Not,(as the Rushies are saying),to the question of media bias or the anti-war left,etc.
Then he makes the "phony soldiers" comment about the 1st Mike.Agreeing with the caller,that only real soldiers should be listened to,and not the "phony solders".
Mike II and Rush refer to those that want out of Iraq(almost 70% of America,and almost half the army) as "these people".
Mike II makes the claim that things will colapse in Iraq and we`ll "have to go back in"in a year or so.He starts out with"what "THESE" people don`t understand,and so on,etc.
Rush agrees ,and says "there is a lot more than that,that "THEY" don`t understand."
Rush says,"what do "THEY" want,with a withdrawal from Iraq?
"It`s not possible to intellectually follow "these people" ,says Rush.
Mike II ,"And what`s funny is "THEY" never talk to real soldiers"
What Rush and Mike II are saying,is that every soldier to criticize the Iraq invasion to this point in time,are "the phony soldiers"
They don`t make any distinctions, of any sort.I repeat,no distictions or refereces of any kind.
Mike II says,"if you talk to a "REAL soldier,they`re proud to serve.They WANT to be over in Iraq.
"Rush chimes in w/"They JOINED,to be in Iraq.Ya know where yer go`n if ya sign up".
Which infers that guys who join up,are auto-matically in support of the war.See the logic?You can`t possibly be against the war,if you joined the army.Against the war, = phony.Dopey I know,but that`s what we`re dealing with,when it comes to the "neo-con`s"mindset.
What about all the guys who were in,before the Iraq invasion?
What about the thousands of men who went in with good intentions and high goals,only to learn that Iraq is a disaster, and a civil war zone,and that they are cannon fodder?
What about the men and women who know for a fact,that al-queda in Iraq are only a tiny percentage of the fighters in Iraq? And that the real fight, was in Afghanistan/Pakistan.
Are they also "phony"?
It`s obvious,on it`s face ,who and what Rush and MikeII are refering to.
The "they" and the "those/these people",are America,and the media.
And, the "phony soldiers",are any soldier or vet,who is against the Iraq occupation.This includes alllll those retired generals,and republicans,who are against this illegal war in Iraq.
The "real soldiers" ,are Mike II,and the ones that support the war.
Long after the "phony soldiers" comment,he goes into a rant about a liberal media conspiracy which includes Jack Murtha,Macbeth(who is unknown and irrelevant)and other people,that Rush considers to be part of the "anti-war left".Those comments are un-linked the the "phony soldiers" comments.
They aren`t connected with the "phony soldiers" call,but said much later in the broadcast.
Rush doesn`t say,"this is the(singular) phony soldier I was referring to before(w/ Mike I and II),when I said,"phony soldiers(plural).
To the average Joe and Joanne,this may all seem pointless and silly.When you hear two people argue from afar,it`s hard to tell who the ass-hole is,and who the good guy is.Hell,they both might be ass-holes.
But words do count.Rush is a very influential and does a lot of damage,along with Fox News,etc.
That`s why they`re scrambling to cover their asses.
All I ask is that regular people listen to the tape,and make your own mind up,about who supports our troops,and who the phonys are.
The ditto heads aren`t going to get it.And that`s cool.That`s why they`re called "cool-aid drinkers",or said to be"drinking the cool-aid".
I light of the other denigrations that Rush has made against soldiers Post #: 54, it`s clear that Rush`s support of our soldiers is conditioanal.
< Message edited by Owner59 -- 10/4/2007 10:57:27 AM >
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